What is the point of (investing) in young players ?

[xempen]

i dont find a valid reason to invest in young players and let me explain why

i am 3 level manager now so my scout list stop at 39 quality and average price for the good one scout player is 3-4 M
according to forums scout players are kinda fast trainers so i take as a measurement that a good fast trainer will cost 3-4 M


now lets jump to market

a 18 years old player average cost is 3 M and over 10 tokens just to win him in 34 Quality that is market max
lets say you buy and 50 rest packs that cost 46 tokens (i dont calculate the case that he will get injured)
now from that 50 rest packs he will gain (i say that he gain hard match training 200 % progress = 2 skill points and he lose only 15 condition = 1 rest pack) 100 skill points that mean from only rest packs he will get to 40 , something quality )
all that happen in 2 days if you log each hour and do the hard train (can be faster if you use all 3 training)

now you will start using him in games so lets say he will gain another 2 skill points per match x 25 days x 2 games per day
= 100 more skill points , that mean that from 40 something he will jump to 46,something quality

in next 3 seasons if all are good he will be 1,2 level bigger than the scout list and in the next 4 same as a scout list player

so the invest are for approximately 7 seasons for 46 tokens + 10(+-) for buy = 56 tokens and 4 M


now lets say i invest in a market 24 years old player that need little skill points to get to new star quality that mean
a 34 quality player that will become 35 and with matches maybe toward scout player that players cost around 1,5 million
and 3 token max and il have a kinda semi scout player

in next season i sell this one and buy a new one with 39 quality that will go to 44 quality etc etc etc

so 7 season x 3 tokens x 1.5 m = 21 tokens and 10 M to having a player in semi scout condition

so according to my toughs having a 1 level higher player cost 1.5 more times the tokens (and as tokens are the problem
for free users) i dont know i find it that its not worth investing in young players and is better to invest in 24 years old players


what is your opinion about this matter ?
did i do wrong calculations ?
my thoughts are correct ?
other more experienced managers have different opinions ?



ps . can the forum admin remove my topic on tactis and formation i made mistake by posting it there

[dv8r]

The point is that as they are fast trainers, you can keep them for longer as they will gain more skill points over the course of the season in comparison to older players.

[xempen]

i told you my maths , with example fast trainer will be 1.5 level (by level i mean 5 quality points higher) than a normal 24 player for 3 season sure and the next 4 propably 1 level higher , that cost generaly 56 tokens (if you are lucky and buy 1 for 10 tokens)

vs

a 7 season 24 player (buy and sell each season) that will be 1.5 level lower and max 21 tokens , and what do you mean by longer you will keep a 18 year for 10 seasons till theit 28 ?

and not calculating the use of red packs cause they are kinda too random to take into consideration

[dv8r]

i told you my maths , with example fast trainer will be 1.5 level (by level i mean 5 quality points higher) than a normal 24 player for 3 season sure and the next 4 propably 1 level higher , that cost generaly 56 tokens (if you are lucky and buy 1 for 10 tokens)

vs

a 7 season 24 player (buy and sell each season) that will be 1.5 level lower and max 21 tokens , and what do you mean by longer you will keep a 18 year for 10 seasons till theit 28 ?

and not calculating the use of red packs cause they are kinda too random to take into consideration

I kept a young player for 6 seasons. Most of my older players only last 2 seasons at minimum.

[xempen]

i dont keep older players ... im saying buying for 7 seasons a max market quality 24-25 years old player meaning i buy him first day and sell him next season and replace him with a new 25 years old player

[dv8r]

i dont keep older players ... im saying buying for 7 seasons a max market quality 24-25 years old player meaning i buy him first day and sell him next season and replace him with a new 25 years old player

Yeah but if you have some younger players, you don't have to replace them for a few seasons because they will gain back the skill points to get to the next star.

[July Fourth]

I've got a young player this morning for 12T on a secondry account, but I've also saved up 100 green boosters through facilities handout and gifts from friends and playing matches.

I decided to sign the young player. He was 3*49Q. MC

The young player trains at 40/80/120 on all 3 training types on hard, so I'm going to use these 100 greens and I will have a 5* MC that takes free-kicks in a couple of days and he is 18 so he will be around for a long-time, thats why you sign the youths.

[xempen]

what level are you july fourth in that account ? to calculate the things i want

[chakalat]

everyone has a different strategy with young players.I will tell you main.every season i do 2-3 transfers 18-19 years old.If i can i take them in 1-st day after maintenance when nordeus up in TM very very good players many time with SA.If i cant(this season there was not one)I'm looking in negotiation(almost all time have young with SA).I always keep all green boosters from previous season(120-150).Then i use them on this young players.They up to 7* some time more very fast.I keep them 6-7 some time 8 seasons until their stars fall to 4 and try to sell them again in negotiation.That mean that i have all time 5-7 stars team +few 5 stars reserves+few 4 stars who are for sell.
Last season I was lucky and did my 3 transfers with 19 tokens(,now this 3 players is 6 stars very close to 7 in the end of season will be close to 8.

[Ljepoje]

What is the point of (investing) in young players ?

Long term vs short term, thats the point/main goal with PT young players.