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    Special Ability - Useless or useful?

    Recently I have been thinking about which special abilities are useful and not useful.

    We start with the breakdown on each of the special abilities and my own opinion of it.. Of course you are free to comment and voice your say on the matter.

    Goalkeepers
    Penalty stopper - Useless Any goalkeeper in my opinion can save penalties, it also depends on the player taking the penalty but we'll get back to that later. Having the extra bonus is probably only handy in penalty shoot outs but it only gives a slight edge over the opponent and in the end, penalty shoot outs are all down to luck regardless of goalkeeper used.

    Counters: Penalty specialist

    One-on-one stopper - Slightly useful. Given the volume of shots that are blasted wide or over the bar from 1 vs 1 positions, I don't see the point of this ability being entirely match saving because I have seen goalkeepers have an amazing game without one-on-one stopper abilities. My last 2 one-on-one stoppers were quite useless in those situations and probably made a save from 2 out of 10 times, the others missed or scored. Having said this, a one-on-one stopper may be useful in some situations against crap players and I have seen it happen a few times that they stopped a one-on-one scorer.

    Counters: One-on-one scorer

    Defenders
    Aerial defender - Very useful - These defenders are very good in heading out corners, indirect free kicks and counter attacks in which the opponent attacks from the flanks. I also find that these sorts of players tend to score more from corner kicks with their improved heading stat. It is recommended that at least two defenders in your whole squad have this ability.

    Counters: Corner specialist

    Defensive walll - Useful/Very useful - These defenders are good for blocking long range shots and from direct free kicks, however this is all they are good at, tackling and heading is the same as a normal player. It's a more useful if you have a player with defensive and defensive midfield role along with this ability and playing them in the DM role allows them to mark attacking midfielders more and this becomes effective in countering a shadow striker.

    Counters: Shadow striker

    Midfield
    Playmaker - Useless - These sorts of players are *supposed* to take on the kinds of roles such as David Silva or any playmaker in world football. But they simply do not as their assist ratios are rubbish. They are, however, a yellow card magnet as the only thing they are good at is passing and are prone to several yellow cards and the occasional red. If you are the kind of manager who likes to play flat formations then this may be useful with short passing, but usually the fact that they don't score that much makes this ability useless. I had 2 playmakers last season and all they did was get yellow cards. This season I have 2 more playmakers and I get the same thing, they get more yellow cards then they are scoring/assisting.

    Counters: Nothing

    Dribbler - Useless - These players are good at making runs through defenders with the ball but if you have a good, fast midfielder or attacking midfielder then you'll find that this is quite a useless ability as any decent player can rip through defences without a dribbler ability. I haven't actually owned one yet but I have watched matches with dribblers and they don't tend to do a great deal. It's not entirely useless but having one isn't that important.

    Counters: Nothing

    Shadow striker - Slightly useful/Useful - These players are good at shooting from long range and are mainly suited for attacking midfielders but if your players are good then they can score from long range without this ability as I have encountered numerous times. Nevertheless, against a rock solid defence, they are great at knocking in 30 metre shots.

    Countered by: Defensive wall

    Striker
    One-on-one scorer - Average/Slightly useful - These players are good at scoring from one on one positions so you'd imagine that they will take on the shot themselves. But when they pass it to someone else and miss, you end up raging, then it's not so good of an ability. I'd say about 50% of the time any player (regardless of ability) will pass to someone else. When your player doesn't pass it, they do tend to score more from 1 vs 1 positions and although it doesn't happen as much as you'd expect, it isn't exactly a very useful ability but still quite handy to have one in your team.

    Countered by: One-on-one stopper


    Set pieces
    Penalty taker -Useless - These players have improved accuracy for penalties, however any decent player can convert a penalty as a lot of it is down to luck. About 10/13 penalties were scored last season by my player who hasn't got a special ability which is still pretty decent. A penalty taker will probably score 11 or 12 of those. The ratio is not that much different.

    Countered by: Penalty stopper

    Free kick specialist - Useful - These players are brilliant at scoring from free kicks. Sometimes the goalkeeper will make a great save but that's nothing you can do about it, that's just the gave engine throwing in some drama. My player currently on free kicks doesn't even have this ability and scores quite a lot of goals from free kicks, so if you have a player with the ability and another player without one but with a much superior shooting stat, then it is better off choosing them. Having said that, you still need one of these in your team.

    Corner specialist - Very useful - These players have a great crossing ability and I find that you'll score a great deal of corners with this. Even though the aerial defender counters this ability, your chances of getting past them is greater when using a corner specialist as opposed to a non corner specialist.

    Countered by: Aerial defender

    Thats it..So, thoughts?

    In your squad, I'd say you need at least.
    x1 one-on-one stopper
    x2 aerial defenders
    x1 defensive wall
    x2 corner specialists
    x2 free kick takers
    x1 one-on-one scorer

    Optional (not important)
    x1 shadow striker
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    bro , thank you for you time to writte this , but belive me all SA are fakes , no one never worked for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by kullehh View Post
    bro , thank you for you time to writte this , but belive me all SA are fakes , no one never worked for me
    I assume that with SA you mean Shadow Strikers (Shadow Attackers). Guys i would really not judge this much unless you have actually played with some. For example, i NEVER use 2 strikers. Never. I always use one and an AMR and AML. I purposely try to aquire ones with the speciality Shadow Striker. Do you know what happens? Every year they both finish with more goals than my lone striker who almost always has the most assists. You get the picture? Ball to Striker, who passes it left or right to Shadow strikers, who then either score, or don't.
    If you think of it Bayern did it with Robben and Ribbery, Barcelona (when they had Villa as ST not Messi), and a lot more teams use this method. A Center Forward that comes up, gets the ball and passes it left or right. Spain (National Team) does it.
    So i would ask that all of you that play with one Striker, and AML, AMR, to give this speciality a chance. If i'm wrong about anything i say, feel free to tell me

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    Quote Originally Posted by pzarkadis View Post
    I assume that with SA you mean Shadow Strikers (Shadow Attackers). Guys i would really not judge this much unless you have actually played with some. For example, i NEVER use 2 strikers. Never. I always use one and an AMR and AML. I purposely try to aquire ones with the speciality Shadow Striker. Do you know what happens? Every year they both finish with more goals than my lone striker who almost always has the most assists. You get the picture? Ball to Striker, who passes it left or right to Shadow strikers, who then either score, or don't.
    If you think of it Bayern did it with Robben and Ribbery, Barcelona (when they had Villa as ST not Messi), and a lot more teams use this method. A Center Forward that comes up, gets the ball and passes it left or right. Spain (National Team) does it.
    So i would ask that all of you that play with one Striker, and AML, AMR, to give this speciality a chance. If i'm wrong about anything i say, feel free to tell me

    Thanks for your time
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    Uhmmm he's not talking about "Shadow Attackers" he means "Special Abilities" xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splatter95 View Post
    Uhmmm he's not talking about "Shadow Attackers" he means "Special Abilities" xD

    Yes, i saw it and you are obviously correct.

    Anyhow, the things i right about Shadow Strikers are 100% tested by me
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    Quote Originally Posted by pzarkadis View Post
    Yes, i saw it and you are obviously correct.

    Anyhow, the things i right about Shadow Strikers are 100% tested by me
    uhmm no, shadow striker sucks somehow. My aml (scout) shadow striker of course, performs not too well, and I'm just lvl 6... rest of my team performs well, he not
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    I enjoyed reading your article dv8r. Although I kinda feel like Kosovo many many times. I think the one on one stoppers and scorers have worked well for me in the past, but not enough that I seek them out. My major disagreement from personal experience, and I'm not suggesting I'm right or anything like that, is that corner specialists don't seem to have given me any advantage from experience. In the end I used to use wing backs almost exclusively and even my lowest level wing backs rack up huge assists totals from corners. Although not recently, and so I have started using wide midfield players with high crossing.

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    I must agree with you but I think the free-kick is very useful and the corner is slightly useful as I figured this season, I have a free-kick specialist taking all my corners and he gets 1-2 corners onto the head of the players every single game.
    other than that, great thread, well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maor23 View Post
    I must agree with you but I think the free-kick is very useful and the corner is slightly useful as I figured this season, I have a free-kick specialist taking all my corners and he gets 1-2 corners onto the head of the players every single game.
    other than that, great thread, well done.
    I disagree on the corner part as my DC (don't ask, he already had it when I bought him) provided the corners and a fair chunk of them found a player, who ended up scoring from it. In fact, a decent few of my games have been won because of that. I'd keep the Corner Specialist as useful.

    But I pretty much agree on everything else in the thread.
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    Most of them are useless, even the aerial defenders. However the vast majority of the goals in the game are scored form set pieces, one-on-one situation and long shots. Too bad we have playmakers and dribblers and not a long shot specialist. If you really want a 0 to 3 assists per season player make him a playmaker Dribblers never dribble anyone and penalty kick takers usually miss more penalties than the non specialists.
    P.S. And yes, the only useful ones are the free kick and corner specialists, they have more assists than average.
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