can someone explain this

[Kizo123]

so, i decided to quit the game as it is obvioustly rigged towards those that spend tokens, but wanted to prove to myself i wasn't imagining things.

i present a clear example that this is so based on two matches, from first and second part of the season (of course, team started to play well after i bought a player for a certain amount of tokens)

[HeavensAAA]

FYI, my club record in the previous 4 seasons is shown in image (this season has some very tough draws when I forgot to extend contracts of some players by end of last season, but still in for a possible quad despite having drawn with 20%+ teams in Cup)

And bingo, I’m a freeloader, and so pretty sure the engine itself has no bias against my team just because I haven’t spent anything at all. Not even a troll loss there.

Maybe spending could help a bit for a few matches, but then as managers, shouldn’t we be relying on our game knowledge and skills to win more consistently instead of hoping for unsustainable favours? Favours is good to have as occasional bonus, but shouldn’t be relied upon when we look to win trophies in the long haul.

[billywhizz33]

Your tactic may be the problem
try mine

[Kizo123]

Your tactic may be the problem
try mine

ok, set up exactly the same. let's see

[Kizo123]

ok, set up exactly the same. let's see

ok, first game 4-0. let's test more

[Kizo123]

ok, first game 4-0. let's test more

6-2-3 thus far with this tactic, two losses concedeing 4, one even 6 but with too many players down arrows, let attacking tactic, so obvioustly too much space in the back, also goalie isn't the best player in the field

[Kizo123]

FYI, my club record in the previous 4 seasons is shown in image (this season has some very tough draws when I forgot to extend contracts of some players by end of last season, but still in for a possible quad despite having drawn with 20%+ teams in Cup)

And bingo, I’m a freeloader, and so pretty sure the engine itself has no bias against my team just because I haven’t spent anything at all. Not even a troll loss there.

Maybe spending could help a bit for a few matches, but then as managers, shouldn’t we be relying on our game knowledge and skills to win more consistently instead of hoping for unsustainable favours? Favours is good to have as occasional bonus, but shouldn’t be relied upon when we look to win trophies in the long haul.

ok, let's see where i go wrong then

do you always use the same tactics or do you change to counter tactics game after game?

[HeavensAAA]

ok, let's see where i go wrong then

do you always use the same tactics or do you change to counter tactics game after game?

Every game I will set up a specific counter formation for that opponent. No matches is the same in a season usually, except same opponent using same formations again.

Checks for formulating counter and preparing in-match substitutions include:
1) If he repeatedly uses the same formation in previous matches (to ensure a more flexible squad in counter if changes were made)
2) The timing and kind of substitutions he would make if he tries to hold a lead or mount a comeback (to prepare for subs making immediate moves when he goes to sub)
3) The amount of supporters he usually has (to call extra supporters of mine to outnumber his)

Hope this helps

[Kizo123]

Every game I will set up a specific counter formation for that opponent. No matches is the same in a season usually, except same opponent using same formations again.

Checks for formulating counter and preparing in-match substitutions include:
1) If he repeatedly uses the same formation in previous matches (to ensure a more flexible squad in counter if changes were made)
2) The timing and kind of substitutions he would make if he tries to hold a lead or mount a comeback (to prepare for subs making immediate moves when he goes to sub)
3) The amount of supporters he usually has (to call extra supporters of mine to outnumber his)

Hope this helps

thanks

i also tend to set up a formation regarding next opponents tactics

but here i see some problems

1. for some seasons now in leagues i play you always have one or two teams that always use the same tactics and their managers mostly don't watch the games and they are practically invinsible
2. is it really realistic to change your formation for every single game? i don't think so
3. it turned out few seasons back that you need several counter tactics for same opponent regarding opponents strength, meaning you need, what, 30 tactical variants per season. for example, i played against same opponent in different competitions where he played familiar tactics but i lost every single time with goal difference - gazillion for him. he did have extra supporters, but if that is the key than it's another bs

so, you obvioustly play a good game, but i do not have the time to watch every single game. i also do not use bonuses during the game, perhaps there is something there also

[HeavensAAA]

thanks

i also tend to set up a formation regarding next opponents tactics

but here i see some problems

1. for some seasons now in leagues i play you always have one or two teams that always use the same tactics and their managers mostly don't watch the games and they are practically invinsible
2. is it really realistic to change your formation for every single game? i don't think so
3. it turned out few seasons back that you need several counter tactics for same opponent regarding opponents strength, meaning you need, what, 30 tactical variants per season. for example, i played against same opponent in different competitions where he played familiar tactics but i lost every single time with goal difference - gazillion for him. he did have extra supporters, but if that is the key than it's another bs

so, you obvioustly play a good game, but i do not have the time to watch every single game. i also do not use bonuses during the game, perhaps there is something there also

With your points:

1) There are no easier return legs than opponents using same formation and also not showing up. Doing both just means a nice easy goal difference booster for us

2) Believe it or not, I change to a different formation for each match according to opponent’s formation weakness. Takes less than 3 minutes when we understand how quality difference, whites difference, own players strengths (comes with own build from power training and seasons of focused key attributes boosts, etc.), how to make the best use of territorial advantage with best players (and most efficient use of utility players to cover opponents)

Anyone who is in friend list of my 2 clubs, current asso teammates, or even prior associate teammates, can easily confirm that they would never know what formation or orders I would use until 1 minute into the match when I finally loaded from saves.

3) Amount of net supporters alone will not win a match. But like other factors, if formation, players quality, tactics & orders, match bonus, etc. all stack up with numerous superior advantages, having more net supporters may even just add another % or 2 of winning chances would mean a 96% chance becomes 98-99%. It makes all the difference in avoiding the already very odd possibility of troll results.

With supporters, everyone can do it with hard work by adding extras by viewing bidders in auctions when about 1 in 40/50 would be under the same server. Most will be mutually supportive if we do our bit in supporting their matches too. I never had any match with less supporters than opponents purely from consistent supports to them, so this is nothing about tactics, but diligence alone. (More networking with more fb adds would help too)

Bonus adds 15% to a certain aspect, so not attending match (so as to allow opponents to change to a perfect counter) and also without bonus is like handing the victory on a plate to your opponent when of equal quality or even 10%- inferior. May get away with 20%+ advantage but by luck than good setups.

Finally, please feel free to quote a single formation that my first-11 plus 5 subs that cannot play (except 2 & 3 STs formation which AMRs & AMLs can move to ST regions to work similarly).


Pretty sure there isn’t any, because team building with attributes focus to play with various favourite styles are imprinted, hence the consistent performance.
Winning 75-80% of max available points in both platinum associations is sufficient proof that manipulators without using upselling or tanking could also be good managers.