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Kizo123 can someone explain this 03-21-2021, 04:53 PM
HeavensAAA FYI, my club record in the... 03-21-2021, 06:40 PM
billywhizz33 Your tactic may be the... 03-22-2021, 05:06 PM
Kizo123 ok, set up exactly the same.... 04-02-2021, 09:07 AM
Kizo123 ok, first game 4-0. let's... 04-03-2021, 10:02 AM
Kizo123 6-2-3 thus far with this... 04-07-2021, 02:09 PM
Kizo123 ok, let's see where i go... 04-02-2021, 09:02 AM
HeavensAAA Every game I will set up a... 04-03-2021, 03:05 AM
Kizo123 thanks i also tend to set... 04-03-2021, 10:01 AM
HeavensAAA With your points: 1) There... 04-04-2021, 12:15 PM
Kizo123 thank you for your answers. ... 04-02-2021, 08:58 AM
InvincibleGinger FC A lot has to do with tactics... 04-03-2021, 05:28 PM
Kizo123 yeah, i would also think that... 04-03-2021, 06:27 PM
InvincibleGinger FC Yeah it would be nice if you... 04-03-2021, 11:32 PM
HeavensAAA Changing tactics every match... 04-04-2021, 12:41 PM
gilbert15a HeavensAAA, yep, you're right... 04-05-2021, 09:11 AM
Kizo123 hm, HeavensAAA, must admit I... 04-07-2021, 02:06 PM
HeavensAAA No problem at all. Just play... 04-07-2021, 04:10 PM
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  1. #1
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    thank you for your answers.

    so, no, i can find no other explanation for an in-form team such as mine to lose against a weaker in exactly the same conditions without apparent reasons. it cannot be anything else but a random thing.

    but, the circus goes on. i still managed to finish 4th but now with same players, one new 7-star, same counter tactics my team concedes 3,5 goals on average against teams mostly weaker by 4-5 %. opponent managers are rarely watching the game. worst start ever!

    i also did some testing - back arrows? forget it, even when i do that, players on that side are best opponents players.

    i agree, you do need knowledge but it's not about football.

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    A lot has to do with tactics consistent with daily training as well as properly utilizing player skills. Some managers can develop a tactical and training strategy that is very potent with their style of play. This means that their team works great for 95% of opponents due to their superior work off the field. Training is key to success as well as arguably players skills in line with your tactics. There might be two 7-star strikers, 1 of which works really well for your team the other not. You can largely identify which striker you would want by knowing which of the white skills are important to you. Although there is this hidden "play style" metric that Nordeus seems to have which you can't know until you played the striker for at least a few games. In short, these mangers found a way to make their player skills, tactics, formation, and training very coherent with each other.

    Using the best counter formation for every match has not been of the greatest success to me. Rather, I look at the underlying principle of the counter formation and utilize that in my standard formation. The varying strengths and talent of players are a factor that counter strategies don't include. You need to know what your team does best, and that is what you must try to do.
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    yeah, i would also think that is the case. changing tactics every game does not make much sense.

    basically, what i need to do is act logically, defend against better teams, attack weaker ones.

    and i totally agree with hidden play style as i had strikesrs with 150+ finishing, 120+ shooting that couldn't score for ****.

    but IMO that is load of bs, if you are a manager than you should know what your players can or cannot do.

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    Yeah it would be nice if you had more availability to highlights or a portfolio of gameplay or something to tell you who you are getting but then again dealing with that is also part of the strategy of the game and being a good manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizo123 View Post
    yeah, i would also think that is the case. changing tactics every game does not make much sense.

    basically, what i need to do is act logically, defend against better teams, attack weaker ones.

    and i totally agree with hidden play style as i had strikesrs with 150+ finishing, 120+ shooting that couldn't score for ****.

    but IMO that is load of bs, if you are a manager than you should know what your players can or cannot do.
    Changing tactics every match makes perfect sense:

    1) We learn more about how different formations and orders work in various setups, so we know how to use them when a certain difficult opposition comes up

    2) Opponents in knockouts rounds, and particularly in the 1-off finals, will find no clue at all of what they will face in 1st leg against them even if they view every single previous tie and watch all our matches, when our specific counters to them is simply different from any other opposition

    Defensive counter against better and aggressive attack against weaker is absolutely right, especially towards league wins for affordable draws with title challengers when enough goal difference is built up by battering minnows for top scorer award for best attacker at the same time.

    Hidden playing style only applies when attributes are not high enough. When players are trained with extremely high stats like 250%+ on key skills with the rest of whites on about 150%, then the player will be suited to a certain playing style as we’d like them to. That has to be done with a core of several key players each trained very specifically to do his own job and combine together to perform as a unit. Again, Tried and tested, and it works for me in 2 different teams of 15+ players. You could also try, or choose not to and rely on ‘lucky’ hits on hidden attributes to work well.
    Winning is a form of art. Consistently winning is a show-hand of skills and luck.

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    HeavensAAA, yep, you're right about it

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    hm, HeavensAAA, must admit I hardly understand you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizo123 View Post
    hm, HeavensAAA, must admit I hardly understand you
    No problem at all. Just play the way you like is fine.

    The way I do is to aim for winning every single match and quads all the time. Not necessarily this is what other managers are looking for anyway as some would prefer to be casual.
    Winning is a form of art. Consistently winning is a show-hand of skills and luck.

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