Invest some $$$$ :))Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharp Carousel
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Invest some $$$$ :))Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharp Carousel
I have a question, wich better to do some PT or buy a scout player?
Thx for the answer
I can't find where you actually say that 1 skill point per green pack in the first post. Might be good to add. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by July Fourth
i have some question, i think many people need this information, you may update it in 1st page :
how many green does it cost to train a player 75 skp point when he is 4*, 5*, 6*, 7* and 8* end? for a scout and young fastest trainer
July Fourth could answer in more detail since he has actually power trained to such qualities. I guess it should be smth like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by tongly45
Fast training youth:
4*->around 75
5*-> around 95
6*->around 135
7*->around 250
8*->around 500
22-25 year old scouts:
6*->around 250
7*->around 375
8*->around 750
completly wrong, with 500 pack you can train a 6* player to 9* player, lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Deghinsea
4* player it must be about 50
I think 500 packs are too few for such upgrade unless a 7 or 8 star player trains at almost the same speed as a 6 star. Also for a 4* to require only 50 packs, he should always win 2,6 times the normal amount of xp on normal training which isn't the case even if you train after a match. These are my findings with a medium training ground, anyway. Can't say for higher lvl training facilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by tongly45
Norman training is not a way of power training.
Thanks July, this is a great help, will defo give it a try. Cheers again.
Thanks for such a great thread.. But when you make the claim about training for Nordeus Gens?? Where can i find those players and the young token ones.. because all I get is scout on my side :/
My question is how long can you keep a fast trainer? If you buy them at age of 18, then you can keep them for 4 seasons then they will slow down as they are going to be 22, should we keep trainning that player or go buy another 18 y.o fast trainer of that level then?
I normally keep training them until they reach 25 years old, so therefore 8 seasons of power training is possible. If you have a 6*/7* 22 year old, its still worth giving the player some training to maintain quality since you would still have to put lots of green boosters into a 18 year old to get them upto the same standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Long K Lockhart
Thanks! That sounds more interesting, I am starting right now with a 18 yo fast trainer of lv2 :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by July Fourth
Hi, my fast trainer attributes now are D: 27.4 A: 47.4 and P&M:30.6, I cannot add anymore point to Attack although I tried to add some to P&M and bring its average to around 30, what should I do now? should I bring the average of defense to 30 too?
Thats because you cant have a gap superior of 20 between any of the 3, so If you whant to increase atack you need to increase the defense first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Long K Lockhart
My Player learningrate decreases at 5 stars, not only after scout level!!!! i've at 4 stars 40-50 %. At 5 stars only 25-35% ! i tested with 3 young Players
and i trained one player from 5 stars with average rate 30% to scout ,and from Scout to Worldclass with the same rate of 30 % like on 5 stars !
I'm getting the same results with the 2 players I'm trying to power train. They were training at 50/100/150 at 4*. Then dropped down to 35/70/105 once they increased to 5*Quote:
Originally Posted by David Böttner
Also, does training every 10minutes affect the increases? It seems my results are lower than if I were to wait for every hour before training. Not sure if just a coincidence or not.
This happens with some 4* -> 5* players most commonly token youths, It's not unusual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Cheng
some player are kind of 90% fast trainer, if you spend time looking at the transfer market, you gonna see some 'fast trainer' players with slightly different in their price or quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Cheng
eg. player A: quality 33 price 5m. player B: quality 34 price 5m
=> make sure you got the best guy there, I experienced the same thing here, some player keep doing 40 80 120 when they reach 5 star, some just slow down after they reach 5 star even though they seems to be all fast trainer :o
i think definitely the learningrate decreases 25% from 4 to 5 stars. im sure like hell. I bought the most expensive player 15mio,18 age on level 8. he had 3 stars and learned from 3 stars to 5 stars with 51%-59%. Now on 5 stars, his learnrate is only 30-43% !!!
it's a fact: 4*->5* -25%, 5*->6* -25% decrease :)
I was powertraining 4 Star 18 year player. He got amazing 2.44 pr percent average (over 50 trainings). Meaning for 30% hard training 30*2*2.44=146,4 really a power trainer. When he got to 5 Star, he drops to 1.70 pr percent - 30*2*1.70=102.
A 30% drop from 4 to 5 star
the most expensive at level 8 is 25 M not 15MQuote:
Originally Posted by David Böttner
Is it worth asking to collect the data of the max 18year old player prizes for each manager level?
Of course after a new season starts everyone can figure that out by watching the market to see how much the most expensive 18 year old player can get. E.g. for level 2 I saw one ST logging 4mil only once since the start of the season. I rarely saw players for 3+mil either. Unfortunatly you don't have that information on day1 of the new season.
Yes, we should make a list!Quote:
Originally Posted by Duscha
Level 3 6.1mil .Quote:
Originally Posted by Duscha
:cool: That's what I will be looking for next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by roni
Yesterday I couldnt resist and bought a GK worth 4.3mil and 3 points shy of 30qlty on level 2.
that's good one,Quote:
Originally Posted by Duscha
Q34, Good one should be over 5.5m. 6.1m is great.
Oh and don't just go for 18yo only, with 19yo (-20% value) and 20yo(-35% value) --> ask TongLy45 about it
damn !!! i wish i had seen this thread before. very good !
Also player with triple role, or not common double roles, like ST/AMC or MR/MC, will have lower MV, but can be fast trainer, because while they are learning New positions or SA there value do not increase.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThichDaBongFC
-20% and -35% is only exact for best trainner for example 6.1m one not 5.7 one. in fact now i have some ideal how the programmer set up value for this game. he use Normal distribution and fibonacci series in. lol. if i have some time i can take a clear board about player valueQuote:
Originally Posted by ThichDaBongFC
What is this are they using to set up players' MV?Quote:
Originally Posted by tongly45
I usually look at the MV, Q n' Age then do the quick math before decide to bid or not.. but that's why it only apply 80% approximately, few are donkeys.
your are at level 3 and with you, a 8* and 9* player, you should only buy 18 yo player. now its value 5.9-6.1 next season, you'll see 8.5m oneQuote:
Originally Posted by ThichDaBongFC
I'd love to but people always bid aggressively on 18yo, i went 80 rounds last time. 19yo is my favorite by now for some reasons..Quote:
Originally Posted by tongly45
@July: Thanks for report these useful thread. I think i go surf tomorrow, T11 took me so much time for the last 6 weeks.. :)
I am only 2 level above on the same server, and it is very rare to find player above 10M, most of the time i only see 5* at level 5 MV of 7 or 8M. So any 18 years old with high MV will end in bid war.Quote:
Originally Posted by tongly45
I think the server is not very old.
Locking this thread due to the opening post being removed. People free to make a new thread with the same topic.