WTF 1549 loans 😨really? http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...a3867198b8.jpg
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hmm, little suspicious
Just how would he "power train" his team mates players ?
We can heal the health, morale and of players we acquire on loan now. So the loanee might be taking players at 25% condition or so and recovering them, then releasing them back to the original owner, then repeating the process. Basically, one of the other players might have trained the captain's quality up to 8*'s.
I worded my original comment poorly I see now!
Really….
Have they nothing better to do…that would take for Donkey years lol
& He is not power training any player though ?
Can someone make the calculations?
How many association matches have been played?
How many max can he loan in each match ?
Is this 1549 even feasible?
Weird ...
as we keep playing the detectives :o we can observe that only the captain is old.
All the others are new members (and not every one is vice Captain).
more suspicious :p
Report them..they´re Cheats :) lol
well flo, as only you can see his name, find him in fb and send him a pm.
That you are a T11 investigator :cool:
He must tell you his story (I 'm very curious to hear that), or else he 'll get ban for abusing FA competition or something like this :p
Record is 5559 for now. Rodri know it lol
And also they are in top 10 of the world, now they were somewhere 22nd but only the captain has points, so he must have kicked the others out,I wonder why,if it was such a successful association 😏
U Craiova it's the name of the association,so you can have a closer look lol
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Would it?
I have wondered about this possibility before. I am a bit worried about this loophole... As I understand it, if you have two devices next to each other you can easily use up an entire week of farmed rest-packs from one of them on a player from the other team. Right? Like you just need to train the player on one device and then heal health on the other?
If it is this easy, I wouldn't mind Nordeus putting a cap on how many Rests you can use on a loaned player per week. Cap it at like 5-6 or whatever.
I thought Le Maniaque was the forum police…. he´ll be on the case no doubt ?
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is this the same team?
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Yep,they're on nr 3 now,they've kicked out 4 teams,again,they've created 3 new accounts and untill Friday they will be ready lol😉
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There was an update roughly 6 weeks ago, where we can now use our health, morale and rests to recover the players we've acquired on loan. The 1st weekend after the update I spent 50 recovering one of my association teammates players so he could get his bonuses to 40%. I haven't done that since though, since i'll run out of conditions doing that.
It's definitely exploitable (As Al Svanberg mentioned), since all it takes is one player with multiple teams, using there alt teams to help power-train his/her main. I'm assuming it would be a quick process if that person has all there alt teams in the same association, with multiple devices (smartphone, laptop, tablet). Leave main association > Join alt family association > use alt teams rests to help power-train main team > Rejoin main association.
give than redeem then give again
I Exactly, let's say you have a main association with third party colleagues. Then you create five new accounts and forms a new closed association. With the five extra accounts you farm as many Rests you have time for, up to around 150 per day. Like even if you just farm 30 per account once per week, being shot to boost a player 150 extra Rests per week would be huge. Then you drop out of your ordinary association on like Monday, drop a note in the chat that you will be back Tuesday, and you go to your new association loan the player to each respective member while emoting their Rest stock on him. Most time used on this would be on farming rests, loging on and off with different accounts and for different associations can be done in a hurry.
I was thinking to try this just to see if it works with one of my twin accounts, I have a third that could create an association and it would be really smooth and it would be really smooth since I could accept my self back to my oldAssociation with my other account etc. But I haven't since I would waste my record in my association and I kind of like that... ;)
I've been tempted to use my alt to boost my main as well, but like you I like my place in the current assoc standings (151 points, unfortunately my association has been in trainwreck mode the last few weeks though). I am wondering if its against the rules though, under nordeus rule for "Managers can't use there alt teams to support each other"?
This association it's right now nr1 in world top 100,so I don't think they care(Nordeus) how they are there,at least from what I can see they've done nothing (maybe it's legal lol)they are for so many weeks in top ten of the world,right in front of their eyes 😉
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So what is the secret, dump players on Sunday, get new players before Saturday, wait for the draw, power train the hell out of them before the first game, and win easy? :)
I do not think this his aim was winning the asso games but the regular season ones. You do not even have to wait for tourney's day to do that.
I would not call it proper cheating as there is nothing against the rules there. But this is definitely an exploit and very unfair.
Is still mystery to me to loan amount of that prayers of over 1000...
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Didn't realise there was a post about this already
Clear cheating, no matter which way around you say it. Today the captain has removed 2 accounts from the association with the intent to start up 2 new teams, and then add them in, and then, from then new teams, each will have 50+ rests and treatments which he will use to support his own master team
I don't understand why Top 11 are letting him get away with this? the stats clearly prove he is cheating, and is making a mockery of the Association feature
I'm with you, something needs to be done about this. It's not just U Craiova taking advantage of this exploit too. I saw the #2 association in the world doing the same thing this past weekend, and a couple other associations i've been following (not in World Top 100) have members that are now copying U Craiova's model. It's going to unbalance the game, if the loophole isn't closed. That said, I'm assuming nordeus will end up closing the loophole soon.
Hey everyone.
We're are doing routine check-ups on the Clubs that are in the F.A. rankings. The Standings and World Top 100 in particular is a very nice tool to spot out cheaters and/or exploiters.
Still, other than the forum I suggest that anyone who suspects an F.A. group or specific account to also file a report on our support channel so that the accounts in question (the ones that you believe are exploiters), are to be better analyzed through the system and their actions be tracked with actual number data.
That doesn't mean that you should stop discussing this matter here in the forum! :)
Ok, I've reported this exact thing to T11, and I just had my reply
Hello Michael
Thank you for reporting them, we will send the accounts that you provided us to the relevant departments to investigate them and if they have violated any policies to become such high rank we will take necessary measures. Do keep in mind that regardless of our investigation we cannot disclose information regarding other managers directly to you. Thank you for understanding. Thank you again for the report we always appreciate it and we will compensate your account with 1 token
So based on that reply, I now look at it like this, the guy has clearly broken rules in order to obtain a high rank, and stats prove that, so now T11 are onto it, that if this Association stay top, then 1 can only assume that T11 are in on it, simple as that. The guy yesterday added 2 more members, both of which, the teams founded on yesterdays date (10/5/16)
We are on the case and this whole matter is being investigated at the moment. Your concerns are not falling on deaf ears nor are we turning a blind eye. :)
Please understand, there is no logic in a game company being in cahoots with cheaters and exploiters - Such individuals harm the experience of the player-base which does a direct hit to the game company's reputation and overall renown.
We do not condone such practices and we act in their detriment at any given moment.
P.S.
Thank you @MikeyPosh for opening a ticket about this guy at the support channel.
Funny, the man is probably on the forum as he changed his club's name, left the asso and came back: so his loan and point records are both nil !!
Still on top of ranking though !!
Your welcome, but to be honest, I want this guy banned, and removed from the association, he is clearly cheating, and the stats prove this. You can't blame me for thinking what I am, as the way I see it, someone from Top 11 needs to check what I've mentioned, and you will see this, and if you back-track the in's and outs of his association, you'll also see multiple people coming and going, not to mention the number of loans
Thats because its the 'Overview' Stats that are keeping him number 1, you're right in that he removes himself then re-adds himself, which reset his individual stats, but the not the overall. I've seen now he's removed 1 of the newly formed accounts, but has left one, which it would also appear he is strengthening.
3.15pm UK time, and hes still not been banned and is still number 1
The important new, is ithat suspicious teams can be tracked in order to see if play fair.
My suggestion also is don't do public initially the identity of these players we suspect, first because "we don't know really" till is not proved if there's something wrong, and second to don't make suspect the suspect. LOL
Hi Mikey
Thank you for your interest in this matter.
Investigations take time. Please take into account that from user's perspective you can't tell for sure if someone is cheating or not. We check absolutely all reports, as Integrity issues are a priority, but we don't guarantee that whoever you report will be banned, even if you really believe he deserves it. Bans are not applied by request, but be reassured he will be banned if he is, indeed, abusing the system in any way.
We are very thorough investigating all reports, as we don't want to miss anything or hurt any fair play user.
Also, and related to that, we have escalated the issue to our devs to see if we can improve this feature while preventing non-allowed activities.
The stats are there for the public to see, the evidence so to speak. This is more than a suspicious team, its a clear view, hence why I don't understand why someone from whatever department in Top 11 maintains not looking
Now maybe I've too much time on my hands, however, in the last 3 days alone, 300 more loans have taken place in this association, so firstly, I didn't think you could do loans during the mid-week? 2nd, why would you unless to train and exploit. Ill also add the captain has renamed all his players to names such as Ronaldo and Messi - my guess, this is to avoid detection
I understand these things can take time, and its a case of compiling evidence, but see it from this perspective - we're about to start a new round of Association, which means 1 other Association is going to be drawn against them, unfairly. As I pointed out, 2 of the teams were founded yesterdays date, 300 loans have taken place in the last 3 days, (which I've screenshots to prove) so whilst I understand its a matter of building a case - its also the fact of that the wrong-doing is staring us all straight in the face
http://s568.photobucket.com/user/mic...?sort=3&page=1
You will see from my photobucket images above, the evidence speaks volumes for itself
Firstly there is a 'Before' Image, which is taken from Tuesday 4th Oct, where there is 6 people in the association. Another Image labelled 'Current' which has 2 new teams added, and the previous bottom 3 removed, then another Image called 'Overview' now this is for all to see, that 3855 loans have taken place in this association, biggest win of 36-0 also a strange reading.
You may feel I'm reading too much into this, but bottom line is, the guy is cheating, its not slander, and I've nothing to gain, except enabling everyone to enjoy this Association feature in the fairest way without others exploiting it, as its now come to my attention that other Associations (not all in the top 100) are following suit.
hey Mikey, what's the rush ?
Yesterday you started this thread
http://forum.topeleven.com/associati...78-wanted.html
saying that you have a FA group U Craiova.
Then Baz started accusing you as a cheater.
You didn't reply for the next 3 hours.
Baz (or someone else) could continue to accuse you as a cheater who came to find "victims" for his group (and start counting how many hours your thread is open and why we don't ban you :p )
Then an adm or a mod should locked your thread and ban you from the forum while you was innocent.
How about that ?