Is this allowed?

[pcmacdaniel]

why ?
What is his unfair advantage ?

Nik, I appreciate you making a very good argument, and helping defend the point I originally made. - (I'm referring to the post I didn't quote here).

The more I think about this though, the more I think Barry is correct about this group having an advantage due managing 4 accounts.

My reasoning is:

1. The # of matchups where significant tactical adjustments in match need to be made is quite small. Most managers will find a way to beat themselves, due to either bad tactics or a lack of preparedness.

2. Communication: Having six members in an association can be difficult for communication. Some members will request a bonus, when its obvious they're opponent can't maintain 40% training bonuses. So we end up wasting a bonus on a match where their is no point in giving one.

Another example is a team with 60 points and 30 team training bonuses given, because my horrible math skills can still figure out that's at best an average of 1 point/match, so a calculated risk that points can be secured there w/o a team-training bonus is a wise decision. However, with poor communication the risk of boosting that match instead of doubling up in a different one is higher.

3. Sacrificing a matchup: It's very hard to get a member to agree to take two losses for the good of the association. This really only applies to the top two seeds, since with there loans they have the ability to greatly skew the quality in the favor of an associations lower seeds (in my opinion a very viable strategy when a heavy underdog). For example, I drew a 135% team in the final weekend of last season, but he only had a 5 player bench and that associations 2 seed was 20% weaker. I knew he could loan 2 players max, so I decided to loan out my 8 best players which included a 151% AMR and 142% AML, since I knew the loans were going to cause them major problems. This guy loaned 0 players, and my association won 18-15.

I think this approach also can be used effectively against associations that have an obvious weak link, so you can eliminate two matchups regarding applying bonuses, and still in all likelihood be tied 6-6. But in the other four matches, you've got 6 group training bonuses applied, with 8 loaned players.

All that said, i'm not going to call it an unfair advantage, because I don't think one is going to be able to consistantly beat the elite associations (based on quality) with having 4+ accounts in one association. I just think the number of genuine elite associations is very small in number. Most associations have at least one weak link that can be exploited. Now, in the better associations its going to be more difficult to identify who the weak link is, because stuff like a deep bench can mask a teams deficiencies, especially if the team in question has a deep bench because then 40% training bonuses has to be assumed.

[nikolgiorgos]

I agree that communication and discipline can give a advantage and that I believe is a strong point of Chinese groups.
I see that in my two FA groups.
In OMA where we are 4 Europeans (Khris tanking/playing in light mode, Beckstar many times isn't present), Cat from U.S. and David from Australia with no convenient times , it's more difficult to synchronize, communicate and have the benefits.
In my Greek FA group, where all the members are from Greece and we have the same time, it's much better and we 're doing better than OMA even if there we have less experienced members.
But still cannot cover the disadvantage of multiply coaching.

[khris]

For me, I've always defended that we should be able to use FB without be banned to manage 2 teams, and too I am one of these who really want a option for PC to create accounts with gmail acc'...

Regarding the associations case, for me, and is a personal opinion, is "ugly" see this point and level of auto benefit, and a non sense... is like when one creates 2-3 accounts and play in the same league giving himself a victory with the multi accounts and then trying to defeat others...

Not nice, but we know, every game, have a way/s to be played that, even if is not "illegal" give advantadge, and we can not do anything because maybe this boy can say that they are 5 brothers and, even more, can be true, so? just, as I sometimes mention, every season, have a different scenario, and every weekly associations tournament, exactly the same, in the end the important is to be loyal to the own values and fulfill oneself.
Oneself is the only person, with who one have to be loyal.

[pcmacdaniel]

I agree that communication and discipline can give a advantage and that I believe is a strong point of Chinese groups.
I see that in my two FA groups.
In OMA where we are 4 Europeans (Khris tanking/playing in light mode, Beckstar many times isn't present), Cat from U.S. and David from Australia with no convenient times , it's more difficult to synchronize, communicate and have the benefits.
In my Greek FA group, where all the members are from Greece and we have the same time, it's much better and we 're doing better than OMA even if there we have less experienced members.
But still cannot cover the disadvantage of multiply coaching.

I didn't think about that applying to Chinese players, very good point you made though. I also think the Chinese associations have a very large advantage in that they're awake when the daily reset occurs. They can easily get the teams prepared, while Europe is asleep and ambush opponents 1 hour after daily reset, when its 5 am in Europe (4 am in UK).