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    Strength of bot-teams/not attended teams

    I thought a long time, if I should open this thread... but these days, it isn't fun to play against bot-teams or/and unwatched teams.
    I don't talk about weaker teams, which win, where the opponent is there and managing!!


    I don't want the post every single screenshot of the last few weeks, I just give handful examples:

    1.) CL-Troll last season:
    I lost to a 25% weaker team, opponent didn't watch both games. I beat the same opponent at league 5:0, 11:0. Both games, he watched.
    The same guy lost CL-Final 12:1... he watched again.
    Strength of bot-teams/not attended teams-lol.jpg
    Click for the stats of 1.leg

    2.) Cup-games this season, against a 22% weaker team:
    Both games, both teams had the exactly same formation, my team also same tactics.

    1.leg, opponent didn't watch. My team is away (white), ended 3:3
    Strength of bot-teams/not attended teams-cup1.jpg

    2.leg, opponent watched. My team is home (black), ended 4:0
    Strength of bot-teams/not attended teams-cup2.jpg

    Such a difference between bot managing and human managing?


    3.) It's not only me: This season, our chinese guy made only a 2:2 against a 30% weaker team, while his opponent didn't watch.
    (I watched this game, because that guy is one of my rivals)
    Chinese guy is home (black), ended 2:2
    Strength of bot-teams/not attended teams-chinatb.jpg


    4.) Click: My wife lost against a bot team, while playing "much" better


    5.) Road to the CL-title of my cousin - won against 2 stronger opponents without watching
    1.leg Semi
    2.leg Semi
    Final

    6.) click: my cousin won while tanking, used illegal formation (80/20 possession)

    7.) results, I saw in my league:
    Quote Originally Posted by nash123 View Post
    The guy, who trolled me out last season CL and lost at final against the chinese guy 12:1 and lost both league games against me 5:0 and 11:0, I call him now DNAG (do not attend guy), won against the 3.TB in my league.
    I watched the game: 3.TB watched from the beginning, dnag didn't watch the whole game. dnag won away 1:2, was 20% weaker, played a lot weaker - stats were:
    59%-41%
    18 - 7 shots
    10 - 6 SoT
    2 - 8 saves
    10% - 33% efficieny

    This is so weird. and really not funny anymore!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by nash123 View Post
    In this case: 3.TB lost today against 14.place - 3.TB was watching, last place not.
    The stats:
    37% - 63%
    14 - 18 shots
    5 - 9 SoT
    1 - 1 saves

    result: 3:0
    quote above: 25% difference (14.place is 25% weaker. )

    I won on my own without watching against the chinese guy
    Troll saves and dnag winning


    8.) killroy
    1.link
    2.link

    9.) several threads about that:
    What happened here then ?
    irrationality in this game will kill me
    random results at FA
    older: T11 2017 - unwatched teams better?
    maybe not excatly that case, but it shows also that broken engine: Improving the statistics table


    If you really want and need it, I post every single screenshot I made, but I think, this are enough examples. There are also a lot more post and threads about this issue.

    So, Nordeus, what the hell is going on there? It isn't funny to play against bot-teams, you can't beat. It isn't funny, that the bot-teams get this high efficiency, while your own (star-) team suddenly sucks like hell.
    Nordeus, you can't close your eyes to this facts, so

    PLEASE NORDEUS, FIX THIS!!!!!
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    This has been a joke for some time now. It needs to be fixed.
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    This is not the big difference, but... it's more than annoying:

    my cousin lost 1.leg of cup. The stupid thing was, he was down 0:2, by a 100% efficiency. SoT after 0:2 were 4:2. And again... such a godlike keeper...
    As you see, oppo manager wasn't there.

    Strength of bot-teams/not attended teams-cc.jpg
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    that's a much better result - a friend played vs ~40% weaker team, 10.place
    (I can't post the preview, because it a 200% vs 200%, because he is 20 levels above me. )

    He watched, opponent didn't. (I forgot: you can't see, who was there at match report of a friend. I watched it until the end)
    Strength of bot-teams/not attended teams-another.jpg

    This is so ridiculous, again

    PLEASE FIX THIS!!!!

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    As a test I tried to beat Mourinho everyday for seasons. Despite having a 40% quality advantage over him now, using counter formations and not, aggressive or defensive tactics, there is no way you can score a single goal against him.

    There's clearly something they've done to make the game more balanced if there's a bot playing, I don't know. It just decides by itself that he can and must win. If quality and tactics don't matter, I wonder what's behind all of this. The bot just needs 1 or 2 opportunities to score and it makes them count.
    It just sucks to not have control over your team and your game.
    Winning Eleven season records:

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    9 Champions League won: 7, 9, 11, 19, 20, 21, 24, 31, 33 - Runner up: 15, 16, 26, 34
    1 Super League won: 38
    7 Cups won: 17, 18, 20, 23, 24, 33, 35 - Runner up: 9, 14, 34, 38

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    Could someone explain why this is happened?
    I have the same troll results, If you are an active player you will lost advantage with changing the tactics.
    Many times I was also playing with Mourinho but never win, mostly draw.

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    Today... I've a really big one for you...

    What do you think was the bot-team?

    I'm really speechless... what you want to say about such a game/result?

    Strength of bot-teams/not attended teams-bigone.jpg

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    CL-game of a FA-member, lost 0:1

    (1. round against him, our member won 4:0, while opponent watched)

    Strength of bot-teams/not attended teams-oi.jpg

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    Today's cup game, I couldn't watch

    Strength of bot-teams/not attended teams-1.jpg
    Strength of bot-teams/not attended teams-2.jpg
    Strength of bot-teams/not attended teams-3.jpg
    Strength of bot-teams/not attended teams-4.jpg
    Winning Eleven season records:

    15 Leagues won : 1, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 38 - Runner up: 8, 10, 15
    9 Champions League won: 7, 9, 11, 19, 20, 21, 24, 31, 33 - Runner up: 15, 16, 26, 34
    1 Super League won: 38
    7 Cups won: 17, 18, 20, 23, 24, 33, 35 - Runner up: 9, 14, 34, 38

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    Look at my ratings! Only one player got less than a 6.0, but all the others seem to have received average or good ratings. Positive ratings after a 0-4??
    I have the same problem with Mourinho, your team plays great, all good scores but you lose 0-3.

    Clearly, CLEARLY, the engine doesn't know how to handle this! The result has nothing to do with the stats and team ratings.
    Winning Eleven season records:

    15 Leagues won : 1, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 38 - Runner up: 8, 10, 15
    9 Champions League won: 7, 9, 11, 19, 20, 21, 24, 31, 33 - Runner up: 15, 16, 26, 34
    1 Super League won: 38
    7 Cups won: 17, 18, 20, 23, 24, 33, 35 - Runner up: 9, 14, 34, 38

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