I never won against 4-4-2 classic this season, I tried 4-1-3W-2 and 4-1-2-1-2ND and 5-3-2 and lost every time
do you have recent good results against 4-4-2, what was your formation and tactic ?
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I never won against 4-4-2 classic this season, I tried 4-1-3W-2 and 4-1-2-1-2ND and 5-3-2 and lost every time
do you have recent good results against 4-4-2, what was your formation and tactic ?
4-2-2-2 Hexagon can beat 4-4-2 Classic...
did you try it this season ? I just changed to the hexagon against 4-4-2 at the 2nd half when the result was 2-1 to him and the hexagon didnt change the result at the 2nd half
any other thoughts please
4-5-1v
nop 4-5-1V is not working as well,, Dv8r any thoughts ???
I've beaten all 4-4-2 matches with my 2 teams using Narrow diamond!
4-5-1V and narrow diamond can beat 4-4-2, with the right orders.
so what is the right order for (1) narrow diamond (2) 451V
I start with short passes no counter no trap but I usually change to long ball + counter after scoring one goal...
That worked for me!
lost 3-0 with 4-5-1V against 4-4-2 classic, and have another game vs the same team
any thoughts to win against the unbeatable 4-4-2 ???
Try narrow diamond!
If you have good AMC put red arrow.
If other team is much better I would add blue arrow on dmc
you can try 4-3MC-1AMC-2ST attcking :D
If you never saw a 4-4-2 lose this season and your opponent use 4-4-2, then use also 4-4-2: you'll get a draw !
352 v style
I've had no problems against 4-4-2, this season, not in comp, CL nor cup :)
Then again I mostly faced drammatically lower quality teams, but still
Lost to a 4-4-2 team in Cup. His base 11 were 28-37 Q. Mine were 24-34. Even with 4-5-1V I lost 0-3.
I think these 1/8's are the end of my Cup. I am lvl-2 and had to face all lvl-4's ...
yeh ive beat it this seasontwice with 4-5-1, i play long ball down the flanks
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3-5-2 work perfect for me every time vs 4-4-2
mentality: normal
focus pass: mixed
pass style: short
counter attacks
no offside traps
nah 4-5-1 V-style is the past. I tried it and almost lost to a team in the first leg at home :)) The second leg, I played 4-3W-1-2 and won 6-0 :))
Yes, this season the 4-4-2 is almost unbeatable.
Of course I'm not considering very lower teams. I can can beat 10-0 a 4-4-2 classic which quality is 8 point less.
In league I won all the matches except 3 draws, 2 against 4-4-2 classic.
In cup I got rid off by a 4-4-2 with same quality (I've used a 4-5-1V)
In champions I've lost the first leg at home 1-3 with against a 4-4-2 with 1.2 points higher quality (4-5-1V during first half, 4-4-2 ND during 2nd)
Yes, 4-4-2 classic is definitely hard to beat this season
hi men
pleaz help
how to beat
3N-1-3W-3
Thx
Short analyses:
4-4-2
--- ST --- ST ---
-----------------
ML - MC - MC - MR
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DL - DC - DC - DR
First rule is have more players in the midfield! Consider this: When the DL and DR are set to red arrows, your opponent has got 6(!) midfield players! You need to own the midfield and there are several ways to do that.
First is using a motivated 4-5-1 flat
------- ST -------
------------------
ML-MC-MC-MC-MR
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DL---DC---DC---DR
Using motivation, in attack your formation will be:
------- ST -------
AML------------AMR
----MC-MC-MC----
DML------------DMR
-----DC---DC-----
In this you will have 7 players in midfield.
Using motivation, in defense your formation will be:
------- ST -------
------------------
ML-------------MR
--DMC-DMC-DMC---
DL---DC---DC---DR
You now have 3 extra def mids (or sweepers) in the def mid. One condition is dat your MC's need to be fast.
Preferable tactics:
Defensive mentality when opponent quality is higher, Offensive when opponent quality is (much) lower.
Passing both Flanks
Hard tackling unless you have a bunch of yellow cards, then normal
Short or if that doesnt work, mixed passing
Zone cover
Force opponent to counter Yes
Play offside trap No
Imo this is our best shot to defeat 4-4-2.
Second is butterfly
Motivated 3-2-2-2-1:
-------ST-------
AML---------AMR
-----MC--MC----
DML---------DMR
----DC-DC-DC---
Using red arrows on DML and DMR and blue arrows on both MC.
Tactics:
Offensive
Passing both Flanks
Normal tackling
Short passing
Zone cover
Force opponent to counter No
Play offside trap No
I think this will only work effectively if your opponent is max 5 points higher in quality.
*4-2-3-1*
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http://i.imgur.com/8fXOzOL.png
Attacking trough the middle.
won 2times in cup, 2times in cl, and 3-4times in league with 4-5-1v against 4-4-2 classic, not even had draw
Is there a good formation against a stronger team with 4-4-2 Classic? The screenshots in this thread are only against teams with a 1-2 stars lower rating. I tried different formations this season like 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamont, 4-5-1 V, 3-5-1 V and 3-5-2 Flat. I only won the last match where i also used the 4-4-2 classic.
Against 4-4-2 Classic, use 4-1-2-1-2 narrow diamond. Orders are as follow
Mentality: Attacking
Focus passing: Through the middle
Pressure: Own half
Tackling: Normal
Passing: Short passes
Defense: Zonal defense
No OT, no Counter
Beat my opponent in CL Final with a higher rating with 2-0. I had one a player (MR) off position (MC)
I've always used 4-4-2, it just seemed natural to me, I never knew it was a good formation
have someone new knowledge, how to win vs this stupid overpowered 4-4-2???
4-3W-1-2 work for me.
Because your opponent was weak. 4-1-2-1-2ND doesn't work anymore against 4-4-2. This was 2 days ago. I switched to 4-5-1v for the last 30 minutes and no results. I think i am gonna try 4-5-1 for home game. Anyway, it's just a lottery, nothing seems to work against 4-4-2.
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Up. 4-5-1 doesn't work aswell. Same number of opportunities, one lucky goal. Instead, on the 2nd half, i have tried 3N-4-1-2 and it seems to work much better. 2-0 and 9 shots on target, comparing with 3 for my opponent.
I played yesterday against 4-4-2 and I used 4-1-2-1-2ND. I had draw 2-2, and his team was as strong as my, but he played also with another player who used also 4-1-2-1-2ND and he lost 4:2.
my orders: normal, mixed, own half, normal, mixed, zonal, no counter, no offside
Used 4-5-1 v style last match and won 3-0, so far only 4-5-1 v has worked for me this season.
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Use 3-4-2-1 against 4-4-2 classic and use the 3-1-3W-2-1 against 4-4-1-1. Same orders for both formations.
Post the results hereafter.
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