Definitive Illegal Formation Rules

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08-21-2013
July Fourth

----ST--ST----
-----AMC------
ML----------MR
----------------
DL--DC--DC--DR

This 10 man formation above is seen as Illegal from the NGE after a red card to the MC during the game.
08-21-2013
Razz

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnr8555

To be illegal formation, it has to be 20% ball poscession, not 30...

Look again and re-read
08-21-2013
Razz

Quote:

Originally Posted by July Fourth

----ST--ST----
-----AMC------
ML----------MR
----------------
DL--DC--DC--DR

This 10 man formation above is seen as Illegal from the NGE after a red card to the MC during the game.

Thanks, July. More evidence to support the hypothesis that either an MC or a DMC is required.
08-25-2013
Mr Mercury

Okay, sorry that I didn't read every discussion in this thread but I checked the first post and am confused.
I played this formation:
----ST-ST-------
AML------AMC---
-------MC-----MR
DML-------------
DL-----DC----DR
-------GK-------
Everyone in their natural positions, and I got 20% possession. I've got a GK, 3 Defenders, Midfielders in the middle and the flanks, and Strikers. What have I done wrong?
08-25-2013
Incredipede

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Mercury

Okay, sorry that I didn't read every discussion in this thread but I checked the first post and am confused.
I played this formation:
----ST-ST-------
AML------AMC---
-------MC-----MR
DML-------------
DL-----DC----DR
-------GK-------
Everyone in their natural positions, and I got 20% possession. I've got a GK, 3 Defenders, Midfielders in the middle and the flanks, and Strikers. What have I done wrong?

Maximum of 2 players per flank.
08-30-2013
LulzyMatt

A guy in my leavue has an illegal formation! How can i post the screenshot?
09-05-2013
Madalin Denis

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Attachment 11890

This is a formation of a player.And i have 4-4-2 classic.This player is 14th place in championship .I dominated the match with possesion 68-32 ,an shots on target 20-7 and the final score is 0-0... How is possible? Is a illegal formations?
09-14-2013
Madridista 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by July Fourth

----ST--ST----
-----AMC------
ML----------MR
----------------
DL--DC--DC--DR

This 10 man formation above is seen as Illegal from the NGE after a red card to the MC during the game.

So it's the same if the formation was like let's say 4-5-1 and the only striker got a red,so you have to place a midfield in his empty position or make a substitution.
I guess it's the same if he got injured too.
09-14-2013
Madridista 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madalin Denis

Attachment 11890

This is a formation of a player.And i have 4-4-2 classic.This player is 14th place in championship .I dominated the match with possesion 68-32 ,an shots on target 20-7 and the final score is 0-0... How is possible? Is a illegal formations?

It's not illegal because he has 3 defenders, a player or two in each flank and a MC and the possession wasn't 80-20
About the score it happens a lot that you dominate the game but still draw or sometimes lose :mad:
09-23-2013
duandee

I really don't understand about the rule yet cause' my english is not good

I have seen my friend play this form

st st
amc amc
mc mc
dmc
dl dc dr

is that right?
09-23-2013
Cat Harrison

Yes he has a legal formation. It is fine.
09-23-2013
duandee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat Harrison

Yes he has a legal formation. It is fine.

Thank you very much:D
09-25-2013
Perceval

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Attachment 12878

I have to play against this formation in some days, does he have a legal formation ?
If it's illegal, what should I do to report him ?
And if it's legal, what should I use to counter him in the championship ?

Sorry if my English is bad, I don't speak English very well :/
09-25-2013
Cat Harrison

Perceval, it is a legal formation. When your opponent has a bad formation, you will get 80 percent of the possession automatically so there is no need to report since the penalty is applied already.
09-25-2013
Long K Lockhart

My striker just got injured and I have no one else to replace him. So I played liked this:
GK
DMR DC DC DML
MC DMC MC
AMR AMC AML

I think this is what Spain did most of the time when they were the Europe Champion in 2012, but in game, it is a illegal formation without ST, what do you guys think about this?
10-05-2013
Saransh Vatsa

One doubt. Has anyone tried this out. if yes please tell. What if both the teams playing have illegal formation. I will try that if I find my own opponent with illegal formation. But hass anyone already done this??
10-10-2013
Razz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saransh Vatsa

One doubt. Has anyone tried this out. if yes please tell. What if both the teams playing have illegal formation. I will try that if I find my own opponent with illegal formation. But hass anyone already done this??

If both teams have illegal formations, possession is normal (as if neither formation were illegal).
10-10-2013
Cat Harrison

Quote:

Originally Posted by Long K Lockhart

My striker just got injured and I have no one else to replace him. So I played liked this:
GK
DMR DC DC DML
MC DMC MC
AMR AMC AML

I think this is what Spain did most of the time when they were the Europe Champion in 2012, but in game, it is a illegal formation without ST, what do you guys think about this?

Game penalizes your possession. Illegal I am afraid. :(
10-10-2013
Yannick Bal

My opponent plays with
GK
DC DC
DMR DML
MC MC
AMC
ST ST

There's only 2 real defenders so is it illegal formation?
10-19-2013
Fonz Fauzi Bin Ridho

yeah, you need a minimum of 3 defenders
wing backs should count as defenders too
10-20-2013
duchao

Will have a cases GK position can not be kicked, then forced to choose one other player to make a goalkeeper, whether it be illegal???
10-22-2013
Razz

Quote:

Originally Posted by duchao

Will have a cases GK position can not be kicked, then forced to choose one other player to make a goalkeeper, whether it be illegal???

It doesn't appear to be illegal. But, sometimes a weaker opponent will end up with 20% possession in that case, so there MAY be a small possession penalty for this.
11-07-2013
Saransh Vatsa

Just thought of this formation
3N-1-1-4-1. This doesn't seem to be illegal according to the updated post. Will it be illegal??? If unsure about it, I can try it in the league match tonight.

It is not even therein the table for counter formations so I was confused if this is legal......
11-09-2013
duchao

I also do not understand , What is Illegal squad? :confused:
11-10-2013
TALON1973

saw the sept update ...... surely a DM is the same as DMC ? that's just wordplay
11-10-2013
Razz

Quote:

Originally Posted by TALON1973

saw the sept update ...... surely a DM is the same as DMC ? that's just wordplay

DM*
The asterisk is a wildcard for L, C or R
11-10-2013
TALON1973

OK ...so why isn't MR and ML included as having a midfield player as 3 ? ( not that im using them atm )
11-13-2013
Razz
Quote:

Originally Posted by TALON1973

OK ...so why isn't MR and ML included as having a midfield player as 3 ? ( not that im using them atm )

As I said above, the asterisk(*) is a wildcard for L, C or R
- at least 3 midfielders (DM*, M*, AM*) at least one of which has to be an DMC or MC
11-17-2013
JanCz

I've a cup opponnent who set his tactic in strange way like this:
GK-DL-DC-DMC-ML-MC-MC-AMC-AMC-ST-ST. I suppose it's illegal because number of defenders, but this gut is experienced and his team is strong, so I'm not sure if this is illegal. Could you guys confirm?
11-17-2013
Little_camel

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I played with this formation 2 seasons and no problem ... and last matches i always have 20 % possesion .. can you pls fix this or tell me what to do ?
11-17-2013
Razz

Quote:

Originally Posted by JanCz

I've a cup opponnent who set his tactic in strange way like this:
GK-DL-DC-DMC-ML-MC-MC-AMC-AMC-ST-ST. I suppose it's illegal because number of defenders, but this gut is experienced and his team is strong, so I'm not sure if this is illegal. Could you guys confirm?

Two backline defenders makes it illegal, yes. Also, no right winger makes it illegal.
11-17-2013
Saransh Vatsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little_camel

Attachment 15208
I played with this formation 2 seasons and no problem ... and last matches i always have 20 % possesion .. can you pls fix this or tell me what to do ?

I don't know why this happened??? 4-1-2-1-2 ND is a legal formation d is widely used, it is one of my fav. Other things also seem fine. Was ur opponent much higher Quality than u????
11-20-2013
Razz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little_camel

Attachment 15208
I played with this formation 2 seasons and no problem ... and last matches i always have 20 % possesion .. can you pls fix this or tell me what to do ?

Can you post some screenshots showing the possession, and the opponent's team?
11-22-2013
Pivac Momčina

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So I've made a formation, had 20% possesion because it's illegal (didnt know there are illegal formations at all back then), checked the forum, fixed the prob, everything is okay now.
Attachment 15491 Attachment 15492
I actually won that game, but I was stunned by the possesion, so I set up a friendly match and had the same possesion (understandable 20-80) and lost to a guy, that I won 2 days before that without a problem.

But my question is, that formation I used, it's a well known formation in real-life football (I was told it's called the MW formation), why is it illegal in the game? I understand its because of only 2 players in the last line but still, it's a good formation that shouldn't be illegal.
Please notice that DML, DMC and DMR are playing defensively, too.
12-05-2013
Snapper99

Is this a Illegal formation

3 X DC
1XDMR
1X ML
3XMC
2X SC??
12-10-2013
Vasilis Zafeiriou

no. for being illigal you have to play with less than 3 defenders or no wings at all or no striker at all(you need at least 1) or less than 3 midfielders. Midfielders, are the next possitions dm c,r,l m c,r,l and am c,r,l
12-12-2013
Razz
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pivac Momčina

But my question is, that formation I used, it's a well known formation in real-life football (I was told it's called the MW formation), why is it illegal in the game? I understand its because of only 2 players in the last line but still, it's a good formation that shouldn't be illegal.
Please notice that DML, DMC and DMR are playing defensively, too.

From the first post:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Razz

Please note:

"Illegal formation" means it incurs a possession penalty in the game Top Eleven.

We can't change that, if you don't like it, take it up with Nordeus.
Using an Illegal formation results in 20% possession. Yes, you might still win.
The above "rules" have been TESTED and confirmed many times. They are accurate to the best of my knowledge.
Please provide evidence (in-game screenshots) if you believe the findings above are wrong. "That's not true" because "I used ...." or "I played against ..." comments will be ignored without supporting evidence (screenshots).
Post-match results are inconclusive for various reasons. If a formation appears to be legal, but shows a 20% possession in post-match results (one you didn't watch), first check the GK in the game - if that is his natural position, and you find no other reason for the possession penalty, test the formation yourself. If it IS illegal, make a screenshot and post here please.
12-21-2013
Zel Momife

"Please provide evidence (in-game screenshots) if you believe the findings above are wrong. "That's not true" because "I used ...." or "I played against ..." comments will be ignored without supporting evidence (screenshots)."
12-21-2013
Peter Ngan

how to counter 5-2-1AMR-2?
12-25-2013
Darshan Deshpande

is 4-3-2-1 a illegal tactic???
st
amc---amc
mc_mc_mc
dr_dc--dc_dr

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