Table of Counter Formations - What to use?

[MadbullJT]

Can I assume the 4-1-4-1 formation is flat DL-DC-DC-DL/DMC/AML-AMC-AMC-AMR/ST? Or can the DMC be interchanged with MC depending on quality or availability of players? Or interchange the offensive 4 across the ML=>MR line for the same reasons? Obviously, doing this presents a more defensive posture. Also, I notice there are no indicators for use of red/blue arrows in the table for any formations.

[dv8r]

Can I assume the 4-1-4-1 formation is flat DL-DC-DC-DL/DMC/AML-AMC-AMC-AMR/ST? Or can the DMC be interchanged with MC depending on quality or availability of players? Or interchange the offensive 4 across the ML=>MR line for the same reasons? Obviously, doing this presents a more defensive posture. Also, I notice there are no indicators for use of red/blue arrows in the table for any formations.

No it's played with ML-MC-MC-MR

Also, red/blue arrows are totally up to the manager and how they want their players to play.

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[Saransh Vatsa]

I am probably late here. But please add that 4-3n-3 can be beaten using 4-1-2-1-2 narrow diamond as well. it is of course not as good as 4-1-4-1 but if u can't use that, narrow diamond is as good. I used it against stronger teams playing 4-3n-3 last whole season and won all. This season I had bad luck and have yet won only 2 games in total so that's why I lost to 4-3n-3 once in this season. If DL/DR are fast enough, set them on red arrows. Give DMC blue arrows. Give AMC and ST red. AMC will be free to go as to there is no DMC for our opponent. later on in the game, if u r winning by atleast 2 goal margin, u can take the DMC off and get in an extra AMC. Well, whom am I telling allthis. To the gr8est managers on T11. but still, if u feel right, pls include 4-1-2-1-2 in the list for the counters of 4-3n-3. If I am wrong, pls tell me as it will save me some defeats later. but this worked well 4 me and my AMC always scored when I used this against 4-3N-3.
Nice thread July. Your hard work has shown up!!! RESPECT......

[Dipayan Roy]

I Have A Question.. Can We Counter 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly With 3-2(W)-2(N)-1(AMC)-2 ?

[Vasilis Zafeiriou]

Hello guys. what should i use for this tactic? 3W-1-2-1-3 Wide Diamond

str---str---str
-----amc-----
ml---------mr-
-----dmc-----
dl----dc---dr-
------gk------

[saleonline]

I thinks so same mr.dvBr

[Luskin Star]

Outstanding thread, July.

According to my lists:-

4-3W-3 is beaten by 4-4-2 classic, attacking, down flanks, own half, normal, zonal with O/S trap

3-4-3 is beaten by 4-3N-2W-1, attacking flanks, whole pitch, normal, short passing, zonal with O/S trap

I'll add some more when I find them in my notes, lol.

And this thread should definitely be stickied

[July Fourth]

Outstanding thread, July.

According to my lists:-

4-3W-3 is beaten by 4-4-2 classic, attacking, down flanks, own half, normal, zonal with O/S trap

3-4-3 is beaten by 4-3N-2W-1, attacking flanks, whole pitch, normal, short passing, zonal with O/S trap

I'll add some more when I find them in my notes, lol.

And this thread should definitely be stickied

Added the 4-3W-3?

Is that formation you stated valid for both 3W-4-3 and 3N-4-3?

[Luskin Star]

I've only got the narrow 3-4-3 in my notes. In fact I doubt I have ever played a 3-4-3 wide at the back.