Table of Counter Formations - What to use?

[semideias]

Can anyone explain me what is the design of 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly tactic?

[dv8r]

I thought the butterfly was effective against 4-2-2-2 hexagon... It seems the logical choice to me because the DML and DMR block their AML and AMR, the 2 MCs mark their MCs and that leaves you with 3 DCs against 2 strikers. And it's effective on the counter as your AML/AMR will hurt their DL/DR.

I'm not too sure about 3N-1-4-2 against it as it seems quite dodgy at the back against their AML/AMR. But I will test this tomorrow in the CL. I play against a 4-2-2-2, first half will be butterfly and if that doesn't work I will switch to 3N-1-4-2. I will inform you of my findings.

[Playsmartpeople]

I thought the butterfly was effective against 4-2-2-2 hexagon... It seems the logical choice to me because the DML and DMR block their AML and AMR, the 2 MCs mark their MCs and that leaves you with 3 DCs against 2 strikers. And it's effective on the counter as your AML/AMR will hurt their DL/DR.

I'm not too sure about 3N-1-4-2 against it as it seems quite dodgy at the back against their AML/AMR. But I will test this tomorrow in the CL. I play against a 4-2-2-2, first half will be butterfly and if that doesn't work I will switch to 3N-1-4-2. I will inform you of my findings.

bro if i dont have DML and DMR...is it better if i move my 2 dmc to the side or could i use my mc with strong defensive skill to swap with them??? is there any effect...and yes i will be using the butterfly..

or this one??

4-5-1V Motivated

-------------ST-----------
AML----------------AMR
-----MC--------MC-------
--------DMC(UP)--------
DL(UP)---DC---DC-----DR(UP)

[dv8r]

bro if i dont have DML and DMR...is it better if i move my 2 dmc to the side or could i use my mc with strong defensive skill to swap with them??? is there any effect...and yes i will be using the butterfly..

or this one??

4-5-1V Motivated

-------------ST-----------
AML----------------AMR
-----MC--------MC-------
--------DMC(UP)--------
DL(UP)---DC---DC-----DR(UP)

I'm not so sure about that, on the defence your DL and DR will remain as they are, which could be a problem. You could play a DL as DMR and DL as DMR... As long as it's for one match then it's fine

[Playsmartpeople]

I'm not so sure about that, on the defence your DL and DR will remain as they are, which could be a problem. You could play a DL as DMR and DL as DMR... As long as it's for one match then it's fine

I lost 0-3 and i confirmed if 3-1-4-1-1 or 3-1-5-1 and 4-5-1v motivated are the best against him.....using butterfly he owned the possession a lot....

[dv8r]

I lost 0-3 and i confirmed if 3-1-4-1-1 or 3-1-5-1 and 4-5-1v motivated are the best against him.....using butterfly he owned the possession a lot....

I don't have an MR in my team because I focus on AML/AMR attacking, so are you sure 4-5-1 V can beat it?

[Ro Edu]

that butterfly sucks a lot ... i tested more then one time and failed always !

[Playsmartpeople]

I don't have an MR in my team because I focus on AML/AMR attacking, so are you sure 4-5-1 V can beat it?

the butterfly gives you a lot of possession to him, i changed it in just 5 mins of the game...

4-5-1v i believe can win you a game IF ur team quality against his quality is not that much differences...winning possession,its like you attack them 7 times and they attack you 3 times..thats the proportion..

3-1-4-1-1 or 3-1-5-1 is the best. when i used that formation, they couldnt score, winning possession a bit more than 4-5-1v...remember to put down arrows to your dmc and your 3 dc's...

[dv8r]

the butterfly gives you a lot of possession to him, i changed it in just 5 mins of the game...

4-5-1v i believe can win you a game IF ur team quality against his quality is not that much differences...winning possession,its like you attack them 7 times and they attack you 3 times..thats the proportion..

3-1-4-1-1 or 3-1-5-1 is the best. when i used that formation, they couldnt score, winning possession a bit more than 4-5-1v...remember to put down arrows to your dmc and your 3 dc's...

I don't have MR I may have to play Petersen as MR, he won't like that lol

So I assume with 3-1-4-1-1, red arrows on ML/MR? Then orders, normal/attacking mentality, down both flanks, mixed passing, pressing own half with zonal marking, counter attack, no offside trap?

[Playsmartpeople]

I don't have MR I may have to play Petersen as MR, he won't like that lol

So I assume with 3-1-4-1-1, red arrows on ML/MR? Then orders, normal/attacking mentality, down both flanks, mixed passing, pressing own half with zonal marking, counter attack, no offside trap?

well he was 58 quality against mine 26 so i went for defensive, down both flanks (my best player was there,so put according ur best player), Long (but if u want to use mixed does not matter i believe), own half, zonal, counter attack, no offside.

PS : to know if your formations works, see the possession bar...if its always lower 50 then its not suitable against them (i bet you know this though)lol