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July Fourth Table of Counter Formations -... 02-03-2013, 06:18 PM
dv8r 4-1-3N-2 can be beaten by... 02-03-2013, 06:30 PM
uyfc Sorry newbie question again.... 02-14-2013, 02:13 PM
dv8r It means narrow. W means... 02-14-2013, 02:16 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin May I have a question :) I'm... 02-03-2013, 07:06 PM
July Fourth I wasn't a big fan of counter... 02-03-2013, 07:10 PM
Dorin Marinescu In your opinion, what would... 04-20-2013, 07:35 AM
Dorin Marinescu C'mon guys, anyone with an... 04-20-2013, 06:41 PM
lio72700 3n-4-1-2? 06-09-2013, 09:51 AM
Awglan I'd like to know what to use... 06-09-2013, 03:52 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin I'm sorry for the offtopic... 02-03-2013, 07:14 PM
July Fourth Point Added. 02-03-2013, 07:15 PM
Accyrover 3W-2N-2N-2W-1 not giving the... 02-03-2013, 07:15 PM
July Fourth Formation added at your... 02-03-2013, 07:19 PM
Keith Fernandes Is 3w -2n mc- 2w aml/amr -3 f... 07-11-2013, 03:52 AM
Steve 父 Saunders Does anyone no what the... 10-04-2013, 07:20 PM
dv8r 4-4-2 can also be beaten by... 02-03-2013, 07:17 PM
rednax Tried butterfly formation... 06-20-2013, 04:53 PM
omid_2381 4-3w-1-2 can be beaten by... 11-20-2013, 03:30 PM
dv8r Against 3W-5-2 V style I have... 02-03-2013, 07:24 PM
July Fourth Added. 02-03-2013, 07:28 PM
wanboo237 4-3W-1-2 anybody know how... 02-14-2013, 05:54 AM
el-trickser any ideas what should work... 02-24-2013, 07:21 PM
alinho Vs 4-2mc-3w-1 i saw 4-5-1 win... 03-06-2013, 11:21 PM
dutchfan what about: 3W - DMC - 3N(MC)... 04-05-2013, 11:17 AM
DarioDA Owner deleted the message...... 04-07-2013, 02:46 PM
achref how i can win against :... 04-09-2013, 08:15 AM
o0o My team/player can not be a... 04-15-2013, 06:51 AM
amukkazuya79 orders for 41212 narrow... 04-16-2013, 08:41 AM
Melli2509 Hi! I need help! Does... 04-22-2013, 04:34 PM
sweed How to beat this tactic... 04-22-2013, 04:57 PM
ppturano help me please! I'm level... 04-25-2013, 07:29 PM
asuPOLITEHNICA 4-2-2-2 Hexagon means... 04-27-2013, 09:03 PM
Azlen Affendy when using 4-5-1 v style what... 05-10-2013, 09:24 PM
Machak_g there are few things you... 05-11-2013, 03:47 PM
devilswater I'm coming up against a very... 05-15-2013, 09:01 PM
July Fourth Illegal formation. Anything... 05-15-2013, 09:22 PM
DarioDA Hey!!!! First of all thank... 05-16-2013, 05:04 AM
Mohd Azuree Zerg what's the best formation to... 05-18-2013, 04:01 PM
Charlie Blue Magiq Lo #July fourth# and #dv8r# ... 05-24-2013, 01:04 PM
Sherif Kamal Ahmed want the counter of 4-1-1-2... 05-30-2013, 12:40 AM
Chris Rath I don't know the counter, but... 05-30-2013, 08:13 PM
devilswater Hi I noticed there is no... 06-03-2013, 06:48 PM
Berzelius What about mapple leaf? 06-05-2013, 10:44 AM
Dzezy How to beat opponent, he's a... 06-12-2013, 06:49 AM
Awglan I've played 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow... 06-12-2013, 07:19 AM
Cyril Laffargue In 1 hour, i'll play against... 06-24-2013, 11:24 AM
SSDD Hah! I,m playing against my... 06-24-2013, 11:47 AM
SSDD Well, he didn't show up... I... 06-24-2013, 12:07 PM
essokimo i used same formation as... 06-24-2013, 12:45 PM
Георги Тодоров What is This formation. pls... 07-13-2013, 07:41 PM
Gasi Play 4-3-3 With trustworthy... 07-13-2013, 07:53 PM
Thibault Delhommel Hey, do u think that the... 07-17-2013, 08:40 PM
Rev Dino If you ask me 4-1-2-1-2 wide,... 07-17-2013, 10:05 PM
Rev Dino I also find very hard to... 07-17-2013, 10:11 PM
Bogdan Piele A question for you 07-22-2013, 05:42 PM
July Fourth You can try if you want. 07-22-2013, 10:18 PM
Flinger I also lack an AMC, and i've... 07-23-2013, 03:23 PM
Bogdan Piele Thank you ! I see the people... 07-24-2013, 10:29 AM
Thibault Delhommel Hi ! There is no this... 08-01-2013, 08:10 PM
Chris Urban Hello all going against a... 08-08-2013, 03:23 PM
Rob Ot Tomorrow I have a cup match... 08-17-2013, 08:23 AM
Danish Zaidi 3N-2(DML/DMR)-3N-2 doesnt... 08-18-2013, 03:37 AM
Wiesse Try 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 100... 08-19-2013, 04:20 PM
Luis Leal playing against the 4-1-4-1... 08-29-2013, 03:50 PM
Walliemia Shoaib Opponent had this formation... 08-29-2013, 06:40 PM
crsbrwn2000 Just played someone in the... 08-30-2013, 10:13 PM
Luis Leal Thanks! I'll try that out... 08-31-2013, 03:56 AM
Florent Nusbaumer Hi, I read a lot your tips... 09-18-2013, 06:48 AM
MadbullJT Can I assume the 4-1-4-1... 10-02-2013, 02:07 AM
dv8r No it's played with... 10-02-2013, 03:23 AM
soeminhtunn Token 10-05-2013, 08:56 AM
Saransh Vatsa I am probably late here. But... 10-05-2013, 05:44 PM
Dipayan Roy I Have A Question.. Can We... 10-13-2013, 05:05 AM
Vasilis Zafeiriou Hello guys. what should i use... 11-27-2013, 07:53 AM
saleonline I thinks so same mr.dvBr :) 12-05-2013, 07:25 AM
Luskin Star Outstanding thread, July. ... 02-03-2013, 10:11 PM
July Fourth Added the 4-3W-3? Is that... 02-03-2013, 10:37 PM
Luskin Star I've only got the narrow... 02-03-2013, 11:04 PM
July Fourth Added for 3N-4-3, Just trying... 02-03-2013, 11:09 PM
Accyrover The Brazilian :rolleyes: is... 02-03-2013, 11:10 PM
July Fourth lol, You gotta think though,... 02-03-2013, 11:17 PM
Benlee4u The most important thing left... 02-04-2013, 02:25 AM
July Fourth Yes, Its a Good point. 02-04-2013, 02:28 AM
yannaing84 I think tactic is important... 02-04-2013, 05:33 AM
July Fourth I've Removed 3-2-2-2-1... 02-04-2013, 09:57 PM
dv8r Did you change the counter... 02-04-2013, 10:01 PM
July Fourth Yes I'll edit it, those... 02-04-2013, 10:05 PM
omid_2381 what about 5-3N-2 formation... 10-28-2013, 03:59 PM
mountaincat How about versus 4-4-1-1? ... 02-05-2013, 10:15 PM
July Fourth 3-5-2 02-06-2013, 05:17 AM
dv8r Butterfly beats 4-3-2-1... 02-06-2013, 05:54 AM
July Fourth That strange Variation of... 02-06-2013, 08:08 AM
CarlTaut What about... 02-06-2013, 08:29 AM
July Fourth Should be okay that formation... 02-06-2013, 08:44 AM
CarlTaut good to know that. it is the... 02-06-2013, 09:30 AM
July Fourth Football Manager was a... 02-06-2013, 09:48 AM
CarlTaut why not? :) 02-06-2013, 10:02 AM
July Fourth Well most of us here have a... 02-06-2013, 10:15 AM
senz777 any advice how to beat this... 02-06-2013, 10:19 AM
influenze Great topic, only thing i... 02-06-2013, 11:21 AM
July Fourth Hmm yes, but if we were to do... 02-06-2013, 11:37 AM
dimdim1 how about the 4-2-1(amc)-2... 02-07-2013, 05:11 AM
July Fourth Your missing a player 02-07-2013, 05:16 AM
dimdim1 of course i do;) ... 02-07-2013, 06:00 AM
July Fourth 3-5-2 flat beats the... 02-09-2013, 12:00 AM
July Fourth Thread added to sticky. 02-09-2013, 12:02 AM
dv8r I was just about to say that... 02-09-2013, 12:09 AM
July Fourth It could also be something... 02-09-2013, 12:17 AM
Accyrover I thought you would have... 02-09-2013, 12:27 AM
July Fourth Could the 'WM' counter the... 02-09-2013, 12:30 AM
dv8r Does WM have AMC? I'm... 02-09-2013, 12:34 AM
July Fourth No it doesn't ... 02-09-2013, 12:38 AM
dv8r 3N-1-4-2 can be beaten by... 02-09-2013, 12:58 AM
namir9 4-3N-2(AML/AMR)-1 its meant... 02-09-2013, 01:44 AM
July Fourth Yes.. 02-09-2013, 02:19 AM
Alexuh 4-1-2-1-2 can be countred by... 02-09-2013, 08:17 PM
Michael Unonk GK dc-dc dml-------dmr... 02-10-2013, 04:47 AM
tripled heres another one: ... 02-11-2013, 01:32 PM
thepercival You can not put formations in... 02-11-2013, 08:21 PM
Kyroshill I think at the end of the... 02-11-2013, 10:30 PM
zidaldo Agree with that but... I... 02-12-2013, 01:22 PM
shwanko07 great thread 02-12-2013, 10:50 AM
Ksic Hi all. I can`t seem to find... 02-12-2013, 09:13 PM
Playsmartpeople Hello...i have a cup match... 02-13-2013, 09:27 AM
zidaldo 4-4-2 classic. Defensive... 02-13-2013, 09:45 AM
semideias Can anyone explain me what is... 02-13-2013, 04:41 PM
semideias Can anyone help me, please? 02-18-2013, 06:10 PM
Chris Rath There you go. Great... 02-18-2013, 07:40 PM
July Fourth Added that formation to the... 02-18-2013, 08:09 PM
dv8r I call that the... 02-19-2013, 03:34 PM
dv8r I thought the butterfly was... 02-13-2013, 09:05 PM
Playsmartpeople bro if i dont have DML and... 02-13-2013, 10:53 PM
dv8r I'm not so sure about that,... 02-13-2013, 11:08 PM
Playsmartpeople I lost 0-3 and i confirmed if... 02-13-2013, 11:22 PM
Ro Edu that butterfly sucks a lot... 02-13-2013, 11:36 PM
yannaing84 hey how do you counter... 02-14-2013, 01:08 PM
dv8r @Playsmartpeople I won 5-2... 02-14-2013, 07:51 PM
July Fourth I believe the 4-2-2-2 Hexagon... 02-14-2013, 09:27 PM
RedSeth 4-2-2-2 hexagon is simply... 03-07-2013, 04:32 AM
July Fourth 4-2-2-2 Hexagon seems to get... 03-08-2013, 12:27 AM
piramidal hi there! which settings did... 08-20-2013, 10:20 PM
uyfc Pardon me. Can you explain... 02-15-2013, 01:41 AM
dv8r 4-1-2-1-2 - DL, DC, DC, DR.... 02-15-2013, 06:42 AM
uyfc Millions thank, dv8r :D 02-18-2013, 09:26 AM
Luskin Star July, I see you haven't got a... 02-15-2013, 06:00 AM
zidaldo There's a great counter... 02-15-2013, 02:34 PM
July Fourth Thats a funny outcome on this... 02-15-2013, 03:25 PM
dv8r I have quite a tough match... 02-15-2013, 04:42 PM
July Fourth Yes I would probably say your... 02-15-2013, 07:29 PM
zidaldo It is? really? We see... 02-16-2013, 01:09 PM
mountaincat Which formation is best... 02-16-2013, 02:41 AM
Rob1984 Check the other stickied... 02-16-2013, 09:10 AM
Locky I have beaten 451V with 352V... 02-16-2013, 09:16 AM
Rob1984 What's best vs 4-2n-1-2n-1? ... 02-16-2013, 09:17 AM
Rob1984 Can anyone help me with the... 02-18-2013, 08:14 PM
omid_2381 how can i beat 5-3N-2... 10-28-2013, 04:02 PM
dv8r What does it say in the first... 10-28-2013, 04:09 PM
Duskrazor It doesn't matter what you... 02-16-2013, 01:32 PM
influenze 4-5-1 flat could be beaten... 02-17-2013, 08:38 AM
July Fourth 4-2-2-2 Hexagon seems to beat... 02-18-2013, 06:45 AM
TheCronos Sorry for being repetitive,... 02-18-2013, 09:44 AM
AMR Plz , how to beat 3-2-3-2 ... 02-18-2013, 10:14 AM
TheCronos I would go with 4-3MC-3ST ... 02-18-2013, 11:18 AM
shwanko07 what about facing ... 02-18-2013, 01:11 PM
KarvaZoli This is very usefull, but i... 02-18-2013, 02:08 PM
Accyrover Play it as you see it up to... 02-19-2013, 03:44 PM
dv8r I'm playing 3W-4-1-2 soon.... 02-19-2013, 03:58 PM
Rob1984 What's best vs 4-2n-1-2n-1?... 02-20-2013, 12:04 PM
yulyus What formation to use against... 04-02-2013, 07:17 PM
Accyrover I assume his MF is a tight X... 02-20-2013, 12:22 PM
Rob1984 Yes, a tight X formation in... 02-21-2013, 07:51 PM
namir9 need help for formation and... 02-21-2013, 12:32 AM
Accyrover Check your other topic you... 02-21-2013, 01:33 AM
Bogdan99 3N-1-4-2 vs 4-5-1 V-Style ... 02-21-2013, 06:37 AM
dv8r I guess the butterfly could... 02-21-2013, 06:42 AM
Bogdan99 i will try the butterfly ,... 02-21-2013, 06:48 AM
Bogdan99 agains 4-4-2 beater team ,... 02-21-2013, 07:06 AM
dv8r Use butterfly 02-21-2013, 08:35 AM
Bogdan99 worked great butterfly... 02-22-2013, 07:39 AM
elofc Hi, for the butterfly, if... 02-26-2013, 08:39 AM
matos0187 What i can do against: ... 02-21-2013, 11:38 AM
shwanko07 which one is 352 V-style?... 02-21-2013, 12:27 PM
dv8r I have seen 4-2N-1-3 quite... 02-22-2013, 07:45 AM
July Fourth lol... funny enough I played... 02-22-2013, 08:53 AM
Chris Rath Some minutes ago I had a... 02-22-2013, 11:09 AM
mike1979 4-5-1 Flat 3-5-2 Flat,... 02-22-2013, 11:47 AM
mike1979 ok thanks for answer,I played... 02-22-2013, 03:45 PM
Kyroshill 4-3W-1-2 - played against... 02-22-2013, 08:48 PM
ZSKovac Can anyone display me the... 02-22-2013, 08:54 PM
Smoggie Dc-dc-dc- dml----dmr mc--mc... 02-22-2013, 08:57 PM
Panionios Smirnis I played against a weaker... 02-22-2013, 09:33 PM
dimdim1 is there any suggestion for... 02-23-2013, 05:56 AM
SportageFC Any idea what is good to use... 02-23-2013, 10:20 AM
dv8r Would the eiffel tower work... 02-23-2013, 12:47 PM
July Fourth You can only try it. 02-23-2013, 03:28 PM
benonfire Hi guys, I'll play... 02-24-2013, 03:45 AM
dv8r Try 3N-3W-2N-1-1 02-24-2013, 10:05 AM
benonfire Hi, I changed a MC for a... 02-24-2013, 06:20 PM
sbtc.zsmj what can counter this ?... 02-23-2013, 02:32 PM
namir9 anyone know how to beat this... 02-24-2013, 08:13 PM
CIBlue Try either 3n-1-4-2 or... 02-24-2013, 11:49 PM
namir9 great thanks man my quality... 02-25-2013, 02:48 AM
Jylven1982 Playing against 4-4-2 flat... 02-25-2013, 01:08 PM
CIBlue What should be used against a... 02-24-2013, 11:40 PM
Bogdan99 hi , against : ... 02-25-2013, 07:03 AM
dv8r Yes it should although... 02-25-2013, 02:23 PM
Bogdan99 thanks , and any tips for... 02-25-2013, 02:40 PM
Panionios Smirnis Any tips for the orders?? 02-25-2013, 05:15 PM
Panionios Smirnis I have a game against a team... 02-25-2013, 02:04 PM
Accyrover My Asymmetric formation... 02-25-2013, 03:42 PM
Jylven1982 Anyone? 02-25-2013, 05:00 PM
Accyrover Whoops! edit I thought you... 02-25-2013, 05:19 PM
mr.ringo He visto tus formaciones... 02-25-2013, 05:25 PM
Chris Rath Hola, repuesto a ti en... 02-28-2013, 06:20 AM
suiram1 Hi I have a game against: ... 02-25-2013, 11:58 PM
July Fourth 3N-5-2 Flat or the Effiel... 02-25-2013, 11:59 PM
suiram1 thx a lot bro. I used 3N-5-2... 02-26-2013, 08:15 PM
suiram1 which one do you think is... 02-26-2013, 12:06 AM
Kasper89 Hey guys! Didn't find how... 02-26-2013, 03:14 AM
RandyBoyz92 Can someone please tell me... 02-26-2013, 11:24 AM
Panionios Smirnis Hello to everyone and... 02-26-2013, 11:32 AM
Nicky Hello! Didn't find how to... 02-26-2013, 01:08 PM
namir9 i used 4-5-1V to counter that... 02-27-2013, 06:31 AM
Chris Rath In the CL I noticed a... 02-27-2013, 05:31 AM
manu4ever Hi guys I have to big game... 02-27-2013, 02:20 PM
ProVeN Hello! I could need some... 02-27-2013, 07:43 PM
dv8r I played against it twice and... 02-27-2013, 08:00 PM
ProVeN Thanks for the tip but... 02-27-2013, 08:08 PM
Rob1984 Playing against 3W-1-4-1-1... 02-27-2013, 08:19 PM
dv8r Yes, play down the middle for... 02-27-2013, 08:46 PM
ProVeN Ok, thanks! 02-27-2013, 11:02 PM
Nampion Chancy To beat a team of équal... 02-28-2013, 05:08 AM
alinho You say 4-4-2 is effective vs... 02-28-2013, 05:26 AM
dv8r 4-4-2 classic is always used... 02-28-2013, 06:04 AM
alinho What does down both flanks... 02-28-2013, 07:47 AM
Rob1984 It means concentrate passing... 02-28-2013, 12:03 PM
alinho Ok Thanks just Set it, 4-4-2... 02-28-2013, 12:14 PM
Rob1984 Play normal, then adjust... 02-28-2013, 12:45 PM
suiram1 i've got a problem. how to... 02-28-2013, 07:23 PM
Nampion Chancy Anybody to validate?? 02-28-2013, 11:12 PM
Smoggie Or 3-2-2-2-1 02-28-2013, 11:18 PM
xianren How can I beat this two... 03-01-2013, 04:59 AM
alinho The 1St Page sais 4-1-4-1... 03-01-2013, 08:20 AM
Rob1984 4-2DMC-2MC-2ST isn't listed... 03-01-2013, 12:32 PM
alinho I play Vs weaker opponent... 03-01-2013, 02:46 PM
Rob1984 You should be able to play 2... 03-01-2013, 06:48 PM
influenze Hello, I have a quarter... 03-02-2013, 08:26 AM
azrinh Luck really not with me. In... 03-02-2013, 10:40 AM
dv8r How are you playing the... 03-02-2013, 11:49 AM
azrinh I played 4-4-2 Classic with... 03-02-2013, 01:05 PM
Ljepoje Change to *attacking, mixed... 03-04-2013, 04:46 AM
xianren 4-1-4-1 3W-4-3? What is W... 03-02-2013, 11:42 AM
Chris Rath W means wide, in case of... 03-02-2013, 11:46 AM
xianren 278927902791 The first leg... 03-02-2013, 12:02 PM
Smoggie dl--dc--dr ml- mc-mc-mr... 03-02-2013, 02:24 PM
TheCronos Can you help me giure it out ... 03-02-2013, 04:17 PM
alinho 1 Player is missing in his... 03-02-2013, 06:13 PM
TheCronos yes, sorry 2ST anyway...i... 03-02-2013, 07:41 PM
alinho Good to know 03-02-2013, 08:31 PM
kuzu15 What is the best way to beat... 03-03-2013, 08:47 PM
Kyroshill From Page 1 ---- 3N-5-2... 03-03-2013, 09:00 PM
Phezex im seeking an alternative for... 03-04-2013, 12:34 AM
July Fourth Just play a formation that is... 03-04-2013, 01:25 AM
axim78 how about this one. how to... 03-04-2013, 10:16 AM
manu4ever I have lost the first leg of... 03-04-2013, 10:45 AM
palmx Got an important game... 03-05-2013, 03:13 AM
Asfora Marco What does it mean V style? 03-05-2013, 12:16 PM
Asfora Marco thanks! it could be nice... 03-05-2013, 10:14 PM
July Fourth Butterfly is a formation... 03-05-2013, 10:49 PM
ursuake I'm playing against a 4-3N-3... 03-05-2013, 07:14 PM
ursuake No one? :( 03-06-2013, 09:51 AM
July Fourth Whenever I play 4-3N-3, I use... 03-06-2013, 10:22 AM
Asfora Marco thanks! It's a problem if... 03-05-2013, 11:32 PM
July Fourth You lose a little bit of... 03-05-2013, 11:39 PM
Asfora Marco but if I follow the game, and... 03-05-2013, 11:45 PM
July Fourth That would be down to a... 03-05-2013, 11:50 PM
Asfora Marco Thanks! I have almost 3... 03-05-2013, 11:54 PM
froppe Hello! Can you help me with... 03-06-2013, 01:20 AM
namir9 how about 3n-4-3 ? how to... 03-06-2013, 11:08 AM
July Fourth 3-5-2 -----ST----ST-----... 03-06-2013, 04:42 PM
Thex Anyone have a clue if 3-3-2-2... 03-06-2013, 03:08 PM
namir9 how to defeat this formation... 03-06-2013, 04:36 PM
July Fourth 4-4-2 Classic should so okay... 03-06-2013, 04:44 PM
namir9 how about the orders and... 03-06-2013, 04:47 PM
July Fourth Your quite limited with... 03-06-2013, 04:50 PM
namir9 i just watched te match... 03-06-2013, 04:55 PM
Vidmux Hi, can you give me a tip on... 03-06-2013, 07:45 PM
Chris Rath 4-5V-1 helps here, too. 03-06-2013, 11:34 PM
alinho Vs 4-2mc-3w-1 i saw 4-5-1... 03-06-2013, 11:54 PM
July Fourth You know whats annoying me,... 03-06-2013, 11:42 PM
Smoggie close the thread 03-07-2013, 07:45 PM
July Fourth I was actually thinking that. 03-08-2013, 12:25 AM
R4uL88 3N-5-1-1 ..... ? I will play... 03-07-2013, 02:42 PM
hullabaloo people here talk about a... 03-08-2013, 01:54 PM
July Fourth Butterfly is a formation... 03-09-2013, 01:23 AM
AdmiralG Hey July Fourth. Thanks for... 03-08-2013, 08:26 PM
AdmiralG Need the answer :o plz 03-09-2013, 03:34 AM
Michael Unonk how about to face 4-3W-2-1... 03-08-2013, 09:24 PM
July Fourth I think this can be beaten by... 03-09-2013, 01:28 AM
Teni Soya Doesnt work for me, tried... 08-18-2013, 01:38 PM
hullabaloo in this thread it is said... 03-09-2013, 12:07 AM
July Fourth your right here I used 4-5-1... 03-09-2013, 01:26 AM
hullabaloo i tried using the... 03-09-2013, 11:44 AM
July Fourth It looks like the 4-5-1 V is... 03-09-2013, 08:20 PM
fmldotcom I have tried pretty much... 03-09-2013, 02:36 AM
MiaSanMia Please guys I‘m playing first... 03-09-2013, 09:57 AM
freddo21 Hey guys, So I'm first in... 03-09-2013, 02:34 PM
Barinho23 How to win against 4 -... 03-10-2013, 08:03 AM
Vidmux Playing cup against bit... 03-10-2013, 08:21 AM
Vidmux I will try 4-5-1 v style with... 03-10-2013, 08:52 AM
atimforlife it appears that praying works... 03-10-2013, 12:37 PM
atimforlife got a cup game shortly....i'm... 03-10-2013, 12:49 PM
Vezage I will play cup game against... 03-10-2013, 07:13 PM
Vidmux Well i won 2-1 with my... 03-10-2013, 10:14 AM
July Fourth Closing this topic for the... 03-11-2013, 01:13 PM
Guest Opening this thread again.... 03-12-2013, 09:34 AM
zh1vk0 How to beat 3N-2DMC-3W-1-1... 03-12-2013, 09:38 AM
Guest Zh1vk0, this thread is for... 03-12-2013, 09:46 AM
Mark. i used 3N-1-4-1-1 against... 03-12-2013, 10:00 AM
Mark. July Fourth did you read it? 03-14-2013, 07:55 AM
Vidmux Cannot find how to counter... 03-12-2013, 08:41 PM
dv8r You people need to stop... 03-12-2013, 09:38 PM
July Fourth Why has this thread been... 03-12-2013, 11:17 PM
Potemy July, I'm facing these two... 03-13-2013, 02:53 AM
July Fourth Yes I think that should be... 03-13-2013, 03:03 AM
Vidmux Well, worked 4-1-2N-2W-1 ... 03-13-2013, 04:53 AM
ProVeN 3N-1-5-1 --------ST--------... 03-13-2013, 05:59 PM
dv8r It's legal 03-13-2013, 09:31 PM
July Fourth Thread open again. 03-14-2013, 08:06 AM
Panionios Smirnis Hey guys?How are you? Can... 03-14-2013, 08:25 AM
FRANNY FC any idea how to break down... 03-14-2013, 08:29 PM
Guest Locked at OP's request. 03-15-2013, 09:29 AM
Guest Re-opened upon request of OP. 03-30-2013, 01:31 PM
essokimo i played 442 and 4141 against... 03-30-2013, 08:39 PM
RandyBoyz92 4-1-3-1-1 please help 03-30-2013, 09:17 PM
Lutton Does 3-5-2 Flat really... 03-31-2013, 11:20 AM
blanco Against 4-4-2 , 4-2-2-2 and... 03-31-2013, 12:03 PM
blanco and a Harder Challenge is to... 03-31-2013, 12:19 PM
vincepro How can I win against this... 04-01-2013, 05:34 AM
Chris Rath That is an illegal formation,... 04-01-2013, 01:11 PM
yulyus I faced such team. By the way... 04-02-2013, 08:01 PM
Ljepoje really?! Stop spamming dude! 04-02-2013, 10:28 PM
Yasp0 What would be the best... 04-03-2013, 07:40 AM
July Fourth This topic doesn't cover... 04-04-2013, 03:16 AM
ChasDevis7 Pls.. need some advice...... 04-01-2013, 06:08 AM
Mr. Green hi, did anybody know how to... 04-01-2013, 12:39 PM
Mr. Green done it with 4-5-1 v-style ;... 04-02-2013, 05:48 PM
ali08saratan how can i win against 5-3-2 ... 04-01-2013, 12:45 PM
mountaincat What does 4-2-2-2 Hexagon... 04-01-2013, 01:45 PM
July Fourth Thats exactly what it is.... 04-02-2013, 08:17 PM
Mr. Green ok thanks i'll try it tomorrow 04-01-2013, 07:06 PM
michelhmk 3W-4-1-2 can be beaten with... 04-01-2013, 09:29 PM
Kukilon Anyone played this one but... 04-29-2013, 06:40 PM
MarkusVatka What should I use against... 04-29-2013, 10:09 PM
MarkusVatka What should I use against... 04-29-2013, 10:10 PM
Bogdan99 against : DL--DC--DC-DR... 04-02-2013, 03:22 PM
Dragan What formation to use against... 04-02-2013, 06:15 PM
Dragan What formation to use 04-02-2013, 06:19 PM
Barneey100 I think maybe 4-1-3W-0-2... 04-02-2013, 06:48 PM
July Fourth I got a good feeling that a... 04-04-2013, 03:18 AM
ChasDevis7 Hai july and others Really... 04-04-2013, 07:16 AM
Lutton My gf is playing 4-1-1-2W-2... 04-04-2013, 12:07 PM
Frédéric Geiller how can i win against this... 04-05-2013, 03:22 AM
Morgan O\'Bree What tactics would you use... 04-05-2013, 05:17 PM
CIBlue A really good counter to the... 04-07-2013, 05:05 AM
AdmiralG Hey July! I just wanna say... 04-07-2013, 11:06 AM
Der Panzer Really? I'm gonna face that... 04-09-2013, 05:13 AM
AdRob5 What about 4-2-3W-1? 04-08-2013, 12:22 AM
skandal Hey guys, I have a request ,... 04-08-2013, 08:47 AM
joosepest@gmail.com Opponent tactic: ... 04-08-2013, 10:05 AM
Dragan What to use against him he is... 04-09-2013, 10:08 AM
Dragan My team is left with 70.4... 04-09-2013, 10:14 AM
A Samet FC Hi guys i have a match coming... 04-10-2013, 08:02 AM
iRonnyTV I think 4-1-3N-2 can be... 04-10-2013, 02:34 PM
dv8r 4-3N-3 is countered by... 04-10-2013, 03:07 PM
AdmiralG Which orders? 04-10-2013, 06:57 PM
b0jan Anyone have some ideas how to... 04-10-2013, 07:20 PM
Zeon Its like wide diamond, only... 04-10-2013, 07:26 PM
Morgan O\'Bree I played that and went... 04-11-2013, 12:09 AM
b0jan Thanks for the help!... 04-11-2013, 07:31 AM
Bogdan99 can anyone help me with this... 04-11-2013, 09:21 AM
Bogdan99 didn't work lost 3-2 04-12-2013, 08:23 AM
Michael Unonk what do u think the best... 04-11-2013, 11:33 AM
influenze Come on guys, if you search a... 04-11-2013, 02:26 PM
skandal Please HELP ME with this... 04-11-2013, 08:29 PM
seanmeg 4-5-1 Flat 3-5-2 Flat, 3-5-2... 04-11-2013, 11:29 PM
Tornado88 There is no 3W-3MC-1-3 :P ... 04-12-2013, 06:37 AM
misterr Hi guys, I'm having a cup... 04-12-2013, 07:42 AM
skandal Anyone knows if you can... 04-12-2013, 10:25 AM
uiman Did anyone ever reply this?... 09-13-2013, 12:53 AM
Koeloe i beat this formation with... 09-14-2013, 06:44 AM
Beach Bum I played vs this formation... 09-19-2013, 03:57 AM
Beach Bum Forgot to quote why I was... 09-19-2013, 04:02 AM
arman778899 Opponents Formation ... 04-12-2013, 11:54 AM
sweeper4football I would go 3-5-2 with blue... 04-13-2013, 10:07 AM
sweeper4football 4-5-1 or 3-5-2 04-13-2013, 10:09 AM
Realmad Hey all. I'm gonna play... 04-13-2013, 09:10 AM
Smoggie Going by what a lot of... 04-13-2013, 10:28 AM
Mister Q Hi... I wanna ask questions,... 04-14-2013, 08:32 AM
Melcyah 4-5-1 V style can be beaten... 04-14-2013, 11:36 AM
aaron111 ____ST --- ST____ AML ---... 04-14-2013, 11:41 AM
amukkazuya79 what order and best tactic... 04-14-2013, 01:55 PM
Morgan O\'Bree Feedbacks on 4-5-1 flat.... 04-14-2013, 07:01 PM
the eagles topeleven a game is useless... 04-14-2013, 10:12 PM
amukkazuya79 what orders for formation... 04-15-2013, 01:36 AM
OneI 4-5-1-V can be beaten by... 04-15-2013, 07:55 AM
Fazzy Guys please how to beat... 04-15-2013, 02:30 PM
3Dante I'm playing against the same... 04-15-2013, 05:33 PM
Fazzy It's cup match,so i played... 04-15-2013, 08:45 PM
DenKuzco How to counter a 'crazy'... 04-15-2013, 10:14 PM
CIBlue Counter it as if it were a... 04-16-2013, 09:29 AM
CIBlue 4 counter formations needed.... 04-16-2013, 09:22 AM
nsretkovic Is it good to put a blue... 04-16-2013, 10:04 PM
CIBlue The blue arrow on any... 04-16-2013, 11:36 PM
Lycans Hi, I once played against... 04-17-2013, 09:53 AM
Carlitos So guys what's the best... 04-17-2013, 01:41 PM
3Dante I need some help with a... 04-17-2013, 07:16 PM
Haifisch Flo How to beat... 04-17-2013, 09:24 PM
antoniofs Hey there, There's one... 04-18-2013, 10:52 AM
aaron111 Hi. Which formation is... 04-18-2013, 11:52 AM
Fazzy Which formation choose... 04-18-2013, 12:35 PM
nsretkovic Best settings for 4 1 4 1 ? ... 04-20-2013, 08:11 PM
Dorin Marinescu [QUOTE=nsretkovic;72218]Best... 04-20-2013, 08:18 PM
Regiosl Against 3n-5-2 counter is... 04-22-2013, 01:44 PM
ghab 4-5V-1 is effective vs 5-3W-2? 04-23-2013, 10:40 AM
ok3y How to beat this tactic: He... 04-23-2013, 01:02 PM
wepes2012 Facing ------ST--ST-----... 04-23-2013, 08:17 PM
wepes2012 Should I play out of position... 04-24-2013, 01:33 AM
John Luk In fact, you will lose if use... 04-24-2013, 12:23 PM
Dzezy How to win: 5-1-3W-1 ? His... 04-24-2013, 04:15 PM
LoxXxA Please help me beat this... 04-24-2013, 04:44 PM
nazor why my team cant win with... 04-25-2013, 04:18 AM
nazor what the playing style to win... 04-25-2013, 04:20 AM
Otelul Galati83 Very useful thread, thank you... 04-25-2013, 09:45 AM
8urr0w5 How would i beat 3W-1-2-1-3... 04-25-2013, 03:50 PM
czopor DELETE THIS TOPIC. Table of... 04-25-2013, 07:46 PM
dutchfan hello. need some help...can't... 04-25-2013, 08:15 PM
Regiosl 3-5-2 Flat and V shape..what... 04-25-2013, 10:14 PM
KNN HELP with this godlike... 04-26-2013, 03:30 PM
czopor another 0:3 with counter... 04-26-2013, 04:33 PM
Osvaldas13 Any suggestions against this... 04-26-2013, 07:13 PM
Narf 3N-2(DMC)-2(MC)-2W(AML/AMR)-1,... 04-26-2013, 07:23 PM
st2hol Could 3-1-4-1-1 or even... 04-27-2013, 04:24 PM
aaron111 Hi. Tomorrow I will have... 04-30-2013, 09:58 AM
paulorcm Hi, I have a very important... 04-30-2013, 04:13 PM
ChasDevis7 How to counter this strange... 05-01-2013, 10:05 AM
Уника Hi all. help me pls. how to... 05-02-2013, 10:08 AM
Osvaldas13 HOW???? Any suggestions? :) ... 05-05-2013, 06:52 AM
Kilgharrah What about the system that... 05-05-2013, 06:29 PM
Kilgharrah I had a VERY big problem... 05-05-2013, 06:44 PM
Lutton Need quick help! ... 05-06-2013, 10:10 AM
magnum 13 Sorry about the stupid... 05-06-2013, 04:35 PM
dv8r It's on the first post of... 05-06-2013, 09:56 PM
Kilgharrah Can u help me out with a... 05-18-2013, 06:21 PM
fadhul17 Ahihihihi, you're funny! it's... 05-07-2013, 09:29 AM
lulute hello, what do you think of... 05-06-2013, 09:16 PM
magnum 13 LOL :P thanks man 05-07-2013, 12:21 AM
schaumir Help me : against... 05-07-2013, 06:27 AM
fadhul17 I'm not sure 4-5-1 v work... 05-07-2013, 09:26 AM
ppturano My 352 V Style may well be... 05-08-2013, 07:15 AM
Appel Nice, would be nice to have a... 05-08-2013, 10:47 AM
albator What to use agains 4-1-3-1-1... 05-08-2013, 11:35 AM
Appel First of all, I am a rookie.... 05-08-2013, 01:56 PM
Appel Hi I am a rookie (2) 16.7... 05-08-2013, 12:51 PM
asuPOLITEHNICA i lose the match 3-5-2 flat... 05-08-2013, 06:23 PM
Kapancuervo HI, great post, I´d like to... 05-09-2013, 10:01 AM
schaumir Counter Formation 2 - 3W -... 05-10-2013, 02:44 AM
Ro Edu 6348 for one who know that... 05-10-2013, 12:32 PM
Machak_g hi guys ! looking for help... 05-10-2013, 06:41 PM
nazor how about team order...team... 05-11-2013, 04:19 PM
P.F.C. Stompwijk 4-4-2 is very effective for... 05-11-2013, 08:54 PM
Anaphros Versus 4-3N-1-2 *Level 2*... 05-15-2013, 09:22 AM
Panda VS 3W-2-3W-2 I use... 05-15-2013, 09:45 AM
Duo2Power 4-5-1 V-Style does not work... 05-15-2013, 02:26 PM
ppturano here we all ask the same... 05-15-2013, 07:25 PM
Ahmad Hijazi very useful thread ^_^ thanks 05-15-2013, 09:01 PM
E7_Durden Hello everybody ... does... 05-15-2013, 09:14 PM
Bình Râu how do i beat 4-1-3w-1-1 and... 05-16-2013, 05:03 AM
werewolf122 4-4-2 Classic is countered by... 05-17-2013, 06:41 AM
Kilgharrah I am playing in a cup match... 05-18-2013, 06:08 PM
July Fourth That I believe is known as... 05-18-2013, 07:16 PM
Marchelo1988 Thank you for this useful... 05-18-2013, 09:57 PM
pzarkadis Sorry 4 the late reply, but... 05-24-2013, 12:26 PM
July Fourth Special thanks to amit4life5... 05-18-2013, 07:07 PM
Floridian GK DR DC DC DL ... 05-19-2013, 03:08 PM
Bogdan99 Hy guys, against 5-4-1 flat... 05-19-2013, 03:41 PM
Bogdan99 4-4-2 didn't worked , lost... 05-20-2013, 02:54 PM
matcho13579 How to beat... 05-19-2013, 05:09 PM
SportageFC and also with the 3W-4-3 what... 05-20-2013, 10:47 AM
Baric31 Best formation against... 05-21-2013, 06:07 PM
July Fourth 4-5-1 v 05-21-2013, 06:50 PM
SportageFC facing 4-1-4-1 with slightly... 05-20-2013, 10:45 AM
Musikero31 I've used the 4-2DMC-3MC-1... 05-21-2013, 10:26 PM
AMR Which formation and tactics... 05-22-2013, 09:45 AM
Berzelius Maybe 4-2DMC-3MC-1? 05-22-2013, 11:12 AM
AMR Is it counter for 4-2mc- 2amc... 05-23-2013, 05:29 PM
Berzelius I don't know, i never tried... 05-23-2013, 10:11 PM
Berzelius Hi I saw this formation... 05-22-2013, 11:05 AM
July Fourth Of course... how could I... 05-22-2013, 05:41 PM
madhouse Does anyone have an idea the... 05-22-2013, 04:44 PM
Berzelius Maybe 5-1DMC-3MC-1? 05-22-2013, 05:05 PM
madhouse 3-4-3 diamond 05-24-2013, 06:39 PM
FCmonster Counter this 3n-2w-2-1-27078... 05-25-2013, 07:03 AM
Chris Rath I think I figured out another... 05-22-2013, 08:19 PM
Uccello Rapace Something is wrong in the... 05-22-2013, 09:58 PM
cule Hello, I am facing a weird... 05-22-2013, 10:03 PM
July Fourth Try 4-4-2 classic, I think... 05-22-2013, 10:38 PM
Uccello Rapace I would try a more offensive... 05-22-2013, 11:33 PM
Abu Ubaid Any idea on how to... 05-23-2013, 03:06 PM
July Fourth 3n-1-4-2 05-23-2013, 03:10 PM
Abu Ubaid You Must Add That to the... 05-24-2013, 05:34 PM
Good Ville Hey guys.. i will play... 05-23-2013, 08:42 PM
July Fourth 3N-1-4-2 loses against... 05-23-2013, 10:35 PM
DarioDA I am facing a formation that... 05-24-2013, 05:31 AM
Fawzyk Fantasi my enemy has a strange... 05-24-2013, 11:13 AM
madhouse 3-4-3 diamond 05-24-2013, 06:33 PM
lastmanstanding following are listed as... 05-25-2013, 09:43 AM
gavri Hi everyone Going against... 05-26-2013, 08:23 PM
AdmiralG July, 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly... 05-26-2013, 08:31 PM
FCmonster meeting a guy who plays a... 05-27-2013, 06:43 AM
Baric31 Best formation against... 05-27-2013, 03:16 PM
July Fourth Special Thanks to Factor_X... 05-28-2013, 12:13 PM
Vasil Yonov Sorry if this has been asked... 05-28-2013, 12:29 PM
misterr Hi guys ! I'm playing... 05-29-2013, 02:40 PM
Pietro Barreca hi all how can I beat... 05-29-2013, 05:17 PM
Baric31 Best formation against... 05-29-2013, 05:27 PM
Chris Rath 3n-dmc-4-2. 05-30-2013, 08:15 PM
Pruna Razvan hy Vasil, advice for cup... 05-30-2013, 12:33 AM
CIBlue That last one is an illegal... 06-05-2013, 12:30 AM
Larodar Counter against 4-2MC-3W(AM)... 05-31-2013, 04:49 AM
pnr8555 3W-4-1-2 and 3N-4-1-2 can be... 06-01-2013, 01:46 PM
Martin Gorissen Hi ;) Now in the Champions... 06-02-2013, 09:02 AM
B F C Hello, Martin :) my main... 06-02-2013, 12:41 PM
Martin Gorissen thanks very much. i will try... 06-02-2013, 03:45 PM
Xagec I think there is something... 06-03-2013, 01:01 PM
Berzelius I think you're right.... 06-05-2013, 10:43 AM
Berzelius Today, again: i played in... 06-05-2013, 12:02 PM
Martin Gorissen Thanks again. I won today 3 -... 06-03-2013, 03:55 PM
jacek1985a1 Hi, I am going to play with... 06-04-2013, 08:29 AM
Jubran Afridi I'm going to face an opponent... 06-04-2013, 09:59 AM
Baric31 Best formation against... 06-04-2013, 03:35 PM
Frédéric Geiller I find this a difficult... 06-04-2013, 06:48 PM
Berzelius What about 4-3MC-2W-1? Or... 06-05-2013, 10:22 AM
Guinitrous Hi, i would like to know how... 06-04-2013, 08:30 PM
Berzelius What about Butterfly with... 06-05-2013, 10:18 AM
Cuway Huynh how to beat 3-2-2-2-1... 06-05-2013, 05:57 AM
sweeper4football Cuway Huynh- Look at page 1. 06-05-2013, 09:12 AM
sweeper4football How about countering this... 06-05-2013, 09:13 AM
Berzelius What about 4-5-1 flat? 06-05-2013, 10:12 AM
Berzelius Hi, i have to face this... 06-05-2013, 10:13 AM
MarYaNn__ Please I need some advice.... 06-05-2013, 12:49 PM
Moresuperpro down both flanks arrows on... 06-06-2013, 01:37 AM
July Fourth Thanks to Factor X once again... 06-05-2013, 02:50 PM
Berzelius Thanks to him. Where can we... 06-05-2013, 05:52 PM
Christian Pedersen Hi!.. I know this has been... 06-05-2013, 06:52 PM
CIBlue The 4-1-2n-1-2 narrow diamond... 06-05-2013, 09:01 PM
CIBlue The counter for 4-1-2-3 is... 06-06-2013, 09:57 AM
dv8r 4-4-2 classic counters the WM... 06-06-2013, 04:06 PM
July Fourth Added... Thanks... Think weve... 06-06-2013, 04:08 PM
alz3emz i cant understand shit -.-... 06-06-2013, 04:38 PM
Sofiyan Arif Kurniawan Update Please ... This... 06-06-2013, 05:30 PM
Baric31 Best formation against... 06-07-2013, 04:37 PM
CaxaFC 4 back 1 dmc 1amr 1amc 1aml... 06-07-2013, 04:40 PM
Duo2Power I just beat a MUCH BETTER... 06-07-2013, 10:03 PM
Bukefal what's the counter for 3-4-3 ? 06-07-2013, 11:12 PM
Morgan O\'Bree What are the experiences... 06-08-2013, 08:39 AM
xempen 4-4-2 vs my 4-5-2 v style ... 06-08-2013, 09:14 AM
dv8r Some new counters to add to... 06-08-2013, 01:39 PM
Michael Unonk what order do u use against... 06-08-2013, 02:02 PM
dv8r Same as always, attacking... 06-08-2013, 02:10 PM
July Fourth Added, I've also added the... 06-08-2013, 03:36 PM
CIBlue Focusing anything but flanks... 07-02-2013, 02:20 AM
Richard Proulx thanks for the info! 06-08-2013, 01:50 PM
Nicolas Vervaeck Anyone knows what to do... 06-08-2013, 04:01 PM
Bukefal that should work, but I would... 06-08-2013, 05:28 PM
thijs88 This guy, has this (illegal?)... 06-08-2013, 05:44 PM
dv8r What is illegal about his... 06-08-2013, 05:44 PM
Adilson Henrique 7813 my team ;) 06-08-2013, 05:57 PM
sake022 im not understand with the... 06-08-2013, 05:59 PM
fadhul17 Which one? 06-09-2013, 03:32 AM
thijs88 dv8r, Its illegal cus you... 06-08-2013, 06:03 PM
dv8r Which of the two teams has 2... 06-08-2013, 06:16 PM
dv8r Which of the two teams has 2... 06-08-2013, 06:17 PM
thijs88 Sorry i thought aml amr didnt... 06-08-2013, 07:30 PM
n2dung How to counter this formation... 06-09-2013, 02:53 AM
Baric31 Best formation against... 06-09-2013, 08:18 AM
thijs88 And best formation for below,... 06-09-2013, 08:46 AM
BiteTheDust Hey guys, iam playing against... 06-09-2013, 09:55 AM
Awglan I play 4-1-2-1-2 ND against... 06-09-2013, 03:54 PM
Isogin how would you guys counter a... 06-09-2013, 05:51 PM
Radu Nicolae which style to use if my... 06-09-2013, 06:12 PM
Wiesse i have found that against... 06-09-2013, 10:16 PM
pnr8555 4-1-2-1-2 wide diamond... 06-10-2013, 10:24 AM
thijs88 WHats the best formation... 06-10-2013, 04:44 PM
BiteTheDust The last 2 matches were... 06-10-2013, 07:02 PM
thijs88 if u use 4-5-1, then this is... 06-10-2013, 07:50 PM
BiteTheDust No. 4 Defenders, 1 DMC, 2 MC,... 06-10-2013, 08:03 PM
bradgoh Guys, Need help on how to... 06-11-2013, 03:55 AM
matcho13579 I'd say that 3N-2DMC-4-1 can... 06-11-2013, 01:02 PM
Haytham Mohamed Whats the best formation... 06-11-2013, 03:50 PM
Awglan Been wondering the same.... 06-11-2013, 08:34 PM
matcho13579 Definitely use a DMC to block... 06-11-2013, 09:38 PM
Awglan 4-5-1V Style did not work,... 06-12-2013, 05:54 AM
Guinitrous Hi guys, i would like to know... 06-11-2013, 10:43 PM
t0m.- Is there any other counter... 06-12-2013, 05:39 AM
Dzezy What about orders and arrows? 06-12-2013, 07:51 AM
Awglan Normal, though middle, mixed... 06-12-2013, 12:00 PM
Haytham Mohamed Whats the best formation... 06-12-2013, 12:05 PM
fdp how about this formation that... 06-12-2013, 01:35 PM
Haytham Mohamed Whats the best formation... 06-12-2013, 04:24 PM
t0m.- try 3-5-2 V offensive, red... 06-12-2013, 04:48 PM
AdmiralG Tomorrow i'll face a... 06-12-2013, 05:02 PM
Awglan 3W-4-3 does not work against... 06-12-2013, 05:44 PM
Stoil Dekov 3 - dl-dm-dr 2 - dmc-dmc 1-... 06-12-2013, 07:22 PM
BiteTheDust Hey, iam playing against... 06-13-2013, 09:46 AM
dutchfan "Hey, iam playing against... 06-14-2013, 03:31 PM
Stretch them How can i counter a 3n-2w(... 06-13-2013, 10:19 AM
BiteTheDust Hey, against a... 06-13-2013, 01:49 PM
mazen79 Hi guys.I just wanna say that... 06-13-2013, 11:38 PM
OneI Hi. You have... 06-14-2013, 05:01 AM
Shark78 anyone got anything against... 06-14-2013, 11:03 AM
Haytham Mohamed What about orders and arrows... 06-14-2013, 02:23 PM
dutchfan hello... anyone knows the... 06-14-2013, 03:29 PM
Haytham Mohamed Whats the best formation... 06-14-2013, 04:13 PM
Georg Spanseiler Hi guys i need a tactic vs... 06-15-2013, 01:10 PM
Keith Fernandes @ dv8r. How do I counter a... 06-15-2013, 09:21 PM
Radu Nedelcu how can i beat 4-2MC-3W(AM)-1 06-17-2013, 10:32 AM
pnr8555 4-3W-1-2 can be countered... 06-17-2013, 12:11 PM
dv8r I don't think so. It was a... 06-17-2013, 12:38 PM
pnr8555 In the first leg I started... 06-17-2013, 12:47 PM
AuroraXXI Uhh, you're more stronger thn... 06-17-2013, 01:35 PM
Marcio David Pls How to counter 4-2 DMC -... 06-18-2013, 01:00 PM
leddy on the table......3N-4-1-2 ... 06-19-2013, 08:41 AM
Haytham Mohamed Whats the best formation... 06-19-2013, 08:51 PM
dv8r Again, do you bother reading... 06-22-2013, 03:03 PM
Haytham Mohamed Thank you, but many ... 06-23-2013, 12:26 AM
Illiniwick 3N-1-2N-3W-1 any ideas on a... 06-19-2013, 10:00 PM
dutchfan 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond ... 06-20-2013, 12:59 PM
Haytham Mohamed Whats the best formation... 06-21-2013, 12:29 AM
dv8r Why not read the first post? 06-22-2013, 03:00 PM
Ruben Crosara I've no idea how to beat... 06-21-2013, 03:44 AM
dutchfan 3N-4-1-2 how to beat this... 06-21-2013, 08:20 AM
nsretkovic 4-3N-1-2 can be beaten by 3N... 06-22-2013, 01:59 PM
July Fourth Noted. 06-22-2013, 02:55 PM
Bojan Alfa Alfa For 4-1-3W-2 i think 3N -... 06-22-2013, 04:32 PM
Martin Gorissen i try today the 3 - 5 -2 flat... 06-22-2013, 04:41 PM
mazen79 hi everybody.I have CL semi... 06-22-2013, 04:52 PM
Martin Gorissen I think i stay at my... 06-22-2013, 05:44 PM
Derrick Loew Hello guys, I came up with... 06-23-2013, 02:16 AM
SSDD I believe a simple 4-5-1 V... 06-23-2013, 03:48 PM
Razvan Rzv ----ST----ST-----... 06-23-2013, 04:26 PM
silvayo A stupid question. How can I... 06-24-2013, 03:48 AM
SSDD 3(N)-2(DMC)-4-1, normal... 06-24-2013, 10:14 AM
silvayo Thank for your advices. I... 06-24-2013, 01:14 PM
silvayo I played 4-2(DMC)-3(W)-1 with... 06-24-2013, 03:22 PM
Hobbit71 hi everybody! today i have... 06-24-2013, 11:42 AM
Hobbit71 so, the game is over and I... 06-24-2013, 06:41 PM
SSDD Well, too bad I didn't read... 06-24-2013, 08:48 PM
Marcio David -----st----- -amc--amc-... 06-24-2013, 11:52 PM
Razvan Rzv how to beat team ... 06-24-2013, 12:52 PM
Cyril Laffargue perso : 3N-1-4-1-1 by the... 06-24-2013, 12:57 PM
Razvan Rzv thanks 06-24-2013, 01:00 PM
Haytham Mohamed my formation is : 4-5-1 V... 06-24-2013, 02:40 PM
SSDD Well, your opponent's using 2... 06-24-2013, 03:04 PM
michelhmk I have faced a lot of games... 06-24-2013, 03:52 PM
Chris Rath With Troll F.C. I simulated... 06-24-2013, 07:08 PM
Red67 In a few days i´m playing... 06-25-2013, 08:55 AM
Alan Štemberga I'm up against a 3N-1-3N-1-2... 06-25-2013, 12:11 PM
July Fourth Chances are he won't play... 06-25-2013, 01:13 PM
Alan Štemberga I thought so too, but he... 06-25-2013, 01:20 PM
Alan Štemberga Unbeliveable lol..The result... 06-26-2013, 07:46 AM
Tauros What do I do against this... 06-25-2013, 09:33 PM
SSDD 4-3(N)-1-2, attacking,... 06-26-2013, 07:17 AM
Tauros Thanks. Kinda worked... Won... 06-26-2013, 05:16 PM
Razvan Rzv how to beat team... 06-25-2013, 09:39 PM
Christina Kostova Hi! Tomorrow is my final... 06-26-2013, 09:40 AM
Alan Štemberga How to cope with this weird... 06-26-2013, 09:47 AM
DrGonzo Nothing important was written... 06-26-2013, 10:11 AM
Nechita Delia how to beat team... 06-26-2013, 02:47 PM
Alan Štemberga How to beat this formation... 06-26-2013, 03:13 PM
boersie89 How to beat 4-1-3w-1-1? GK... 06-26-2013, 09:04 PM
AMR I think 3-5-2V 06-27-2013, 05:35 PM
AMR I think 3w-5V-2 06-27-2013, 07:26 PM
ankris Hi everyone. I need some... 06-27-2013, 04:13 PM
jklm_37 Ty...very informative! :)...... 06-28-2013, 12:05 AM
jklm_37 Thank you July!!!... Just... 06-28-2013, 11:40 AM
Alan Štemberga I'm having some issues with... 06-28-2013, 06:49 PM
JorJo hi. Can anyone say some... 06-29-2013, 09:43 AM
Stats I did not see this formation... 06-30-2013, 03:41 AM
Lenker hi guys i play against a... 06-30-2013, 06:30 AM
Stats Played him using a 4 - 1 - 2... 06-30-2013, 07:13 PM
fadhul17 I like this font :D 07-01-2013, 12:01 PM
Stats delete post 06-30-2013, 03:36 AM
MarYaNn__ The best best best orders to... 06-30-2013, 07:30 AM
Coroar Any ideas on how to beat... 06-30-2013, 04:30 PM
Lenker 4-4-2 07-01-2013, 11:22 AM
Alan Štemberga This is a "little" off topic... 07-01-2013, 12:56 PM
CIBlue Looks good for your team,... 07-02-2013, 02:28 AM
Pierre Lee i dont think there is one for... 07-02-2013, 11:14 AM
rdsouza Cool - I faced that in my CL... 07-02-2013, 03:55 PM
Валя Стефанова Hi, I need help. Formation my... 07-02-2013, 05:27 PM
Gasi You can try: 3N 1DMC... 07-02-2013, 08:08 PM
Nibiru Is 4-3w-1-2 a good... 07-02-2013, 01:36 PM
rdsouza 3n-2(dml,dmr),3n-2 07-02-2013, 03:49 PM
Mohamed Mado Which formation beat this... 07-02-2013, 03:40 PM
rdsouza I would suggest defend your... 07-02-2013, 03:47 PM
Mohamed Mado Thx man and i respect your... 07-02-2013, 09:20 PM
Krystian Jałkiewicz Hello everyone! I need... 07-03-2013, 03:56 AM
Krystian Jałkiewicz Somebody help me. Please 07-03-2013, 02:20 PM
Chester FC first page in this thread: ... 07-03-2013, 07:58 PM
Geodude 4-5-1 V-Style can be beaten... 07-03-2013, 04:57 AM
Chester FC when I played 4-5-1 V-Style I... 07-03-2013, 10:43 AM
Geodude -ST-ST-ST -MC-MC-MC... 07-03-2013, 11:23 AM
Chester FC yes, N is narrow 07-03-2013, 11:42 AM
July Fourth I agree here... dv8r also had... 07-09-2013, 01:25 AM
xiaosian last9 i using 3-2-2-2-1 to... 07-09-2013, 06:59 AM
nico1808 Hello. Today I face a strange... 07-03-2013, 09:17 AM
Splatter95 Do counter formations still... 07-05-2013, 04:44 PM
ew11 Seems like they don't work as... 07-06-2013, 02:34 AM
Huy KamehameHa still useful? 07-07-2013, 01:58 AM
Alan Štemberga My team quality: 141 His... 07-07-2013, 01:30 PM
Mohamed Mado Are any additional counter... 07-07-2013, 04:15 PM
Alan Štemberga Don't bother, the game is a... 07-08-2013, 07:06 AM
Dzezy Cannot win against 4-3N-3! ... 07-08-2013, 08:21 AM
showb4 Try Butterfly... 07-08-2013, 06:05 PM
Kph007 Any ideas to win against... 07-08-2013, 08:22 PM
Chester FC you can try 4-1-3N(MC)-2, but... 07-08-2013, 10:12 PM
Dzezy I've win against 4-3n-3 with... 07-09-2013, 05:42 AM
xiaosian can i confirm that 4-1-2-1-2... 07-09-2013, 07:06 AM
Krystian Jałkiewicz Someone have any solution,... 07-09-2013, 02:03 PM
Chester FC first page: 4-2-2-2... 07-09-2013, 10:05 PM
Dzezy How to beat?? 4- 2dmc- 1mc... 07-10-2013, 08:30 AM
Tauros What can I do against this:... 07-10-2013, 12:33 PM
PerSian Empire How to counter this : ... 07-10-2013, 07:35 PM
topfriend How can i win against this... 07-11-2013, 05:03 AM
Mohamed Mado Here u say that 3w-1-4-1-1... 07-11-2013, 10:10 AM
Dzezy 9423 How to win this? 07-11-2013, 11:15 AM
Sukamto Ngadimin how do i play against this... 07-12-2013, 09:07 AM
Geodude Please this is very important... 07-12-2013, 03:20 PM
Alan McCulloch About to play a 4-4-2 37.7... 07-13-2013, 12:03 AM
D3thf0rge13 How to counter this: DL DC... 07-13-2013, 07:06 PM
Geodude Help i have a cl match... 07-14-2013, 09:01 AM
saydos12 you need 4 defenders :... 07-14-2013, 01:57 PM
Geodude nooooooooooooo i ever play... 07-15-2013, 12:53 AM
Santa_CLaude Hey gents, I'm playing... 07-15-2013, 08:55 AM
Τζιμας Σι. Guys I dont know which... 07-14-2013, 05:42 PM
Fahim Ahmad how to beat this formation... 07-14-2013, 11:29 PM
vinhtuong78 how to beat... 07-15-2013, 09:27 AM
Mehmet Akif Özdemir Hi all, Today i´ll play a... 07-15-2013, 01:29 PM
Mehmet Akif Özdemir Update: I lost this match... 07-16-2013, 12:34 AM
Jimmy Morrison Opponent has parked the bus... 07-16-2013, 01:41 AM
Juan Fernandez I need help. ... 07-16-2013, 02:25 AM
Juan Fernandez I need help... 07-16-2013, 02:27 AM
Santa_CLaude when I face a 4-4-2 later... 07-16-2013, 08:28 AM
Juan Fernandez How can i counter this... 07-16-2013, 03:31 PM
Tamás Tánczos How can I beat this strange... 07-16-2013, 04:46 PM
July Fourth I'd play the dandelion... 07-16-2013, 11:57 PM
July Fourth Dandelion. 07-16-2013, 11:53 PM
Juan Fernandez Which one is dandelion? 07-17-2013, 12:18 AM
dutchfan need the counter for 4-3N-1-2... 07-16-2013, 09:04 PM
July Fourth I'd try the dandelion. 07-16-2013, 11:56 PM
dutchfan thx JULY...will try;) 07-17-2013, 04:35 PM
James Williams I find that to counter... 07-17-2013, 12:59 AM
Berzelius Hi everyone Would i... 07-17-2013, 06:19 PM
July Fourth Added. 4-1-2-1-2 WD added... 07-17-2013, 08:09 PM
Juan Fernandez Which one is the dandelion... 07-17-2013, 08:26 PM
July Fourth 3n-1-3w-1-2. 07-17-2013, 09:06 PM
James Williams 3-1-4-2 works very well... 07-18-2013, 05:42 AM
Bogdan99 """ 4-4-1-1 --- 3-5-2 Flat,... 07-18-2013, 02:06 PM
Juan Fernandez How can u beat 5131? 07-18-2013, 10:47 PM
Rev Dino You won't need much defense.... 07-19-2013, 11:18 AM
meis through wing/wide players?... 07-19-2013, 12:09 PM
Juan Fernandez 3n412 or a 3n3n12 could work? 07-19-2013, 12:25 PM
Rosphysio I using this format... 07-20-2013, 04:03 PM
Juan Fernandez Whats the best formation to... 07-21-2013, 06:33 AM
Juan Fernandez Any ideas on how to counter... 07-21-2013, 11:20 PM
July Fourth Asymmetrical, This topic... 07-22-2013, 02:45 PM
Flinger I'd say 3N-1-4-2, play down... 07-21-2013, 11:34 PM
Rosphysio 4-3N-2(AML+AMR)-1 ... 07-22-2013, 02:40 AM
July Fourth Update 22.07.2013 Added a... 07-22-2013, 03:01 PM
Daniel Meisel Hi, I created a small tool... 07-23-2013, 03:11 PM
Mohamed Mado what about 3w-1-2-1-3 narrow... 07-23-2013, 03:40 PM
Richie_rich Anyone know a counter... 07-23-2013, 08:17 PM
July Fourth 4-5-1 v? 07-23-2013, 09:04 PM
Richie_rich I thought 451v also dmc to... 07-24-2013, 09:24 AM
Richie_rich Ok so I just lost 3-1 to... 07-24-2013, 08:23 PM
Daniel Meisel edit: content moved to ... 07-23-2013, 08:38 PM
Diabolos80 Hi there, how can i count... 07-23-2013, 11:59 PM
Louis Chew Anyone has the counter to... 07-24-2013, 09:08 AM
Kommando 59 Anyone knows how to counter... 07-24-2013, 12:53 PM
Santa_CLaude how do I face 4-3W-3 ?! lost... 07-24-2013, 02:08 PM
Diabolos80 Does no one know a tactic... 07-24-2013, 02:42 PM
piramidal hi all! how to counter this:... 07-24-2013, 04:53 PM
Mohamed Mado what about... 07-25-2013, 02:28 PM
Carlos Roy Thx For Share :D 07-25-2013, 02:46 PM
Haytham Mohamed what about 4 -2 DMC - 2 MC -... 07-26-2013, 02:40 AM
pnr8555 4-1-3N-2 can counter... 07-26-2013, 08:29 AM
Christian Vogt Hey guys, champions league... 07-26-2013, 03:27 PM
Incredipede Could it be that 4-1-3W-2 can... 07-28-2013, 03:09 PM
Wiesse 4-1-4-1 can be countered by... 07-28-2013, 09:05 PM
Juan Fernandez Anyone got an idea on how to... 07-29-2013, 01:10 AM
D3thf0rge13 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond... 07-29-2013, 04:37 AM
Carlos Roy For This : 4-1-1-2W-2... 07-29-2013, 04:09 PM
Carlos Roy 3W-1DMC-3-1-2 Or... 07-29-2013, 04:33 PM
FrannaFt99 Do anyone know how to beat a... 07-29-2013, 05:17 PM
Juan Fernandez It is legal. And i think... 07-29-2013, 05:37 PM
Incredipede I'm pretty sure that 4-4-2 is... 07-29-2013, 08:27 PM
satansboss Does anyone know what... 07-30-2013, 01:43 AM
Murat Oguz I could not finish in the top... 07-30-2013, 01:46 AM
Rev Dino Hi there, I am trying to... 07-30-2013, 12:25 PM
Arwid Walker How to beat?? 4 - 1 (DMC)... 07-31-2013, 12:31 AM
SoccerFreak The counter for 4-1-2-1-2... 07-31-2013, 11:09 AM
Diabolos80 How to beat this one? --... 08-01-2013, 02:30 AM
Juan Fernandez Is that a MC in defence? Or u... 08-01-2013, 03:56 AM
dv8r Lol MC in defence... easy win... 08-01-2013, 04:06 AM
Jamih Hung Can I counter 3N-2N-3W-1-1... 08-01-2013, 08:09 AM
Diabolos80 Played 2:2 with 4-5-1 V... 08-03-2013, 12:29 PM
Diabolos80 Oh sorry my fault...its a DC... 08-01-2013, 08:44 AM
Ṃř Sǚffệŕḝṝ 10462 how to beat this and... 08-03-2013, 08:55 AM
pnr8555 3W-5-2 V-style will help,... 08-03-2013, 09:17 AM
Mzperx Hello 08-03-2013, 09:35 AM
LEKAN FC Thanks for this intelligent... 08-03-2013, 08:08 PM
hungnqt -------DR--------DC-------DC--... 08-03-2013, 10:44 PM
Georgi Kemilov How to counter... 08-04-2013, 05:19 PM
July Fourth Narrow Diamond 08-07-2013, 01:25 PM
Chester FC I think 4-1-3N-2 be good, or... 08-05-2013, 12:07 AM
hungnqt Thanks for reply. I use... 08-05-2013, 04:08 AM
Chester FC i'm sorry, how is quality... 08-05-2013, 03:40 PM
Fahim Ahmad How to beat this... 08-05-2013, 06:36 AM
Deghinsea I would try smth like this. I... 08-05-2013, 11:36 AM
Hollow FC Any tips on how to beat this... 08-05-2013, 01:39 PM
Diegito sometimes i have used... 08-07-2013, 11:08 PM
goodylad How do you combat this... 08-08-2013, 12:23 AM
NeoWilson the whole point of countering... 08-08-2013, 01:07 AM
Rosan Ionut hello sorry for asking... 08-09-2013, 06:59 PM
Florian Bunea Hello. My opponent plays... 08-09-2013, 08:29 PM
July Fourth I've been using 3N-4-1-2 to... 08-09-2013, 10:17 PM
Florian Bunea July, he's missing DL, so i... 08-09-2013, 10:43 PM
Wiesse i have seen a friendly match... 08-09-2013, 10:32 PM
tje1978 What is the best counter for... 08-10-2013, 11:25 AM
Wiesse try 4-2-2-2 hexagon since he... 08-10-2013, 09:22 PM
Incredipede You should add 3N-3W-1-2-1... 08-10-2013, 05:19 PM
Ricardo Rivera Abad Please tell me how to beat 4... 08-11-2013, 02:01 AM
Wiesse try 4-5-1 v style 08-11-2013, 05:08 PM
Wiesse put this formation 2 the list... 08-11-2013, 05:47 PM
flaminghail does 4-3W-3 also counter... 08-12-2013, 01:53 AM
BMD23 Im havingtrouble finding a... 08-12-2013, 03:34 AM
Kenny Jee I have 2 very important... 08-12-2013, 09:43 AM
futurevoice ---------------- st... 08-12-2013, 11:31 AM
ppturano we are almost eliminated from... 08-12-2013, 05:10 PM
Rosan Ionut i have the same problem like... 08-12-2013, 06:49 PM
FrannaFt99 how do you counter a... 08-12-2013, 08:40 PM
Maciej Świderski Im playin vs... 08-12-2013, 10:42 PM
Mai Đức Anh Hello everybody, I have a... 08-13-2013, 09:19 AM
Walliemia Shoaib Guys i have an imprtnt match... 08-14-2013, 02:05 PM
Bringer Hi, everyone seems to be... 08-14-2013, 11:30 PM
Minh Nguyen Hung Hi, I will have a match with... 08-15-2013, 12:25 AM
Hau Tran Why delete this thread?? can... 08-15-2013, 03:44 AM
Muhammad Erlius Syafri why delete this thread. email... 08-15-2013, 04:33 AM
Barry Chikoloy Top Eleven How To Win Against... 08-15-2013, 04:59 AM
Vadim Sloka why delete this thread? can... 08-15-2013, 08:49 AM
divadavad Where is 08-15-2013, 09:22 AM
poipoi oooo that bad news! for me it... 08-15-2013, 09:33 AM
Porker Here is an older update: ... 08-15-2013, 10:06 AM
poipoi thank you very much Cebón,... 08-15-2013, 11:45 AM
kaukasgr Why you deleted it ? 08-15-2013, 12:56 PM
July Fourth I've reinstated the thread... 08-15-2013, 01:03 PM
miguelctv Hi, guys. I don't really... 08-15-2013, 02:06 PM
Bringer just lost a match vs the... 08-15-2013, 04:28 PM
Rev Dino Any idea? 5-2MC-(2AML/AMR)-1 08-16-2013, 10:13 AM
Francesko901 try: 3W - 2ML/R - 2MC - 1AMC... 08-16-2013, 06:36 PM
pzarkadis Hello, sorry 4 your time, but... 08-17-2013, 07:53 PM
Ho Lanzan What is the difference... 08-18-2013, 11:25 AM
Danish Zaidi 3w means wide like, ... 08-18-2013, 12:00 PM
Ho Lanzan Oh I see. Thanks :) 08-18-2013, 12:25 PM
Crete Hi, one question about... 08-18-2013, 02:21 PM
Chris Selassie Hey guys, i Need your help.... 08-18-2013, 04:46 PM
Chris Rath I miss 5-3N-1-1 in the list,... 08-19-2013, 02:16 PM
Si Mon What is the best way to... 08-20-2013, 01:32 PM
Chester FC in my league this formation... 08-20-2013, 10:58 PM
luki84 Hi, I will have a semi-final... 08-21-2013, 09:16 AM
Mark Chan Kok Wei hi any kind soul can help... 08-23-2013, 07:17 AM
sdw Hi.I'll be glad to add... 08-23-2013, 02:17 PM
Walliemia Shoaib How to counter 2 DC 1 DML 1... 08-23-2013, 03:45 PM
Adam Marszał So I'm playing today versus... 09-25-2013, 06:28 AM
zaratoustra I am playing against a... 09-25-2013, 07:06 AM
Tony Klaesson Against 4-4-2 Classic, use... 08-23-2013, 06:32 PM
sdw I realized that it's vice... 08-27-2013, 12:35 AM
darktennos Hi all how to beat formation... 08-25-2013, 04:40 AM
blazer2704 Amazin.. Thank you sooo much 08-26-2013, 11:50 PM
JorJo Hello. here's Q will... 08-27-2013, 07:24 AM
Vahid Sajadi hi . i am at level 12 . that... 08-27-2013, 10:28 AM
JorJo http://b.pix.ge/q/4sidb.jpg... 08-27-2013, 02:28 PM
Vahid Sajadi thank you for your respond . ... 08-27-2013, 06:33 PM
JorJo http://b.pix.ge/r/m4dxi.jpg... 08-28-2013, 04:05 PM
Luís Couto *Edit New thread in... 08-29-2013, 01:22 PM
Dobar Los How to beat this formation... 08-30-2013, 08:17 PM
Florian Bunea I'm playing against a... 08-31-2013, 07:15 AM
Ravitaneja Can anyone tell me how to... 08-31-2013, 06:52 PM
Florian Bunea 3-5V-2 style 08-31-2013, 11:25 PM
madhouse Counters on here no longer... 08-31-2013, 07:30 PM
Anang.Hunter help me please, tell me how... 08-31-2013, 08:04 PM
Rene Kromer Hi folks! Anyone seen a... 08-31-2013, 10:51 PM
Rene Kromer Please, help me to beat this... 09-01-2013, 07:29 AM
Francesko901 Hi folks! My opponent... 09-01-2013, 05:14 PM
JorJo 2 DC? u'll have 80%... 09-01-2013, 05:54 PM
Francesko901 Yeah, I think so :) So I hope... 09-01-2013, 06:12 PM
Francesko901 OK, it looks you are... 09-01-2013, 06:18 PM
Naretafra how to counter this 3-1-2-2-2... 09-02-2013, 09:31 AM
Francesko901 The formation you ask for is... 09-02-2013, 12:32 PM
Ranty Oktarianda Can someone help me ? How to... 09-02-2013, 12:36 PM
Chris Rath 3w-5-2. 09-02-2013, 02:26 PM
Ranty Oktarianda Flat or what sir ? Can you... 09-02-2013, 03:11 PM
Soumava Paul How to beat... 09-02-2013, 02:43 PM
leddy How would anyone play this... 09-02-2013, 04:54 PM
Hobbit71 how can i counter a 4-1-3W-2?... 09-03-2013, 07:35 AM
Satria Merah I read somehwere abount... 09-04-2013, 03:32 AM
Francesko901 No, the reason is the... 09-04-2013, 04:25 PM
L30 Is an efficient tactic to... 09-05-2013, 06:16 PM
L30 What level are you? I'm at... 09-05-2013, 06:27 PM
Francesko901 I am level 9, but I am... 09-08-2013, 06:50 PM
noname456 Well, top eleven these day... 09-04-2013, 03:39 AM
Ranty Oktarianda How to beat this formation... 09-04-2013, 04:41 AM
Francesko901 Wait, there is one player... 09-04-2013, 08:47 AM
Ranty Oktarianda Thank for your suggestion sir... 09-04-2013, 10:14 AM
Francesko901 Not at all :) But please... 09-04-2013, 03:48 PM
Chu Đạt Help me ! how counter ... 09-04-2013, 03:56 PM
Francesko901 one player is missing... 09-04-2013, 04:26 PM
Naretafra 4-3N-2W-1 "The... 09-05-2013, 10:09 AM
mandzukic Hello, i'm lvl 19...my team... 09-08-2013, 08:33 PM
Baric31 What to use against 3N-1(DMC... 09-09-2013, 06:53 AM
Francesko901 Ughh... very obscure... 09-09-2013, 07:46 AM
mandzukic Forum was unavailable... 09-10-2013, 02:58 PM
Ankle Breaker Hi everyone! i'm level 2... 09-11-2013, 12:38 AM
kebess Is 4-1-4-1 : ... 09-11-2013, 03:21 AM
Ankle Breaker I guess the logic is that... 09-11-2013, 04:43 AM
kebess I see, so your midfield is so... 09-11-2013, 04:48 AM
Ankle Breaker your DMC might become useful... 09-11-2013, 05:46 AM
zul191185 12063 aii, how to beat... 09-11-2013, 05:19 AM
Robert Wayne Messmer What should the tactics be... 09-11-2013, 08:06 AM
khris well just want to confirm,... 09-12-2013, 11:58 PM
uiman Hi July, I have looked... 09-13-2013, 12:42 AM
George Kou Hello ... Im new player. My... 09-13-2013, 09:44 AM
anfield hero\'s hi i'm new to the forum so... 09-13-2013, 10:18 AM
Chris Rath That is an illegal formation... 09-13-2013, 09:51 PM
anfield hero\'s thanks for the info much... 09-15-2013, 08:16 PM
top33 Hi, have very important... 09-13-2013, 09:41 PM
Chris Rath You can try a 4-1-2-1-2... 09-13-2013, 09:49 PM
top33 Thank you, will try. Any... 09-13-2013, 10:00 PM
top33 Lost 2:1 with 4-1-2-1-2, but... 09-15-2013, 12:49 PM
setan16 i am facing a 4-1-2-1-2 team... 09-16-2013, 09:51 AM
Adam Marszał Hi This is my first season... 09-16-2013, 11:47 AM
Adam Marszał Additional question. Please... 09-17-2013, 05:37 AM
Adam Marszał I'm facing an oponnent with a... 09-18-2013, 11:14 AM
Chester FC w tym momencie 3. Galatasaray... 09-18-2013, 01:57 PM
Adam Marszał Dzięki za odpowiedz!... 09-18-2013, 04:41 PM
Chester FC "Rozumiem, że grając tak... 09-18-2013, 10:22 PM
Adam Marszał Dzięki wielkie za wszystkie... 09-19-2013, 06:50 PM
Krilnik 3W-2DMC-1MC-3W-1 ... 09-18-2013, 09:08 PM
sabankuru CL revanche vs 4-4-2 (Lose... 09-18-2013, 02:20 PM
Cat Harrison QuoteOriginally Posted by... 09-18-2013, 11:47 PM
Chester FC google not perfect translate,... 09-19-2013, 12:05 PM
Krilnik can you help me maybe with... 09-19-2013, 06:36 PM
Bogdan99 UCL final against : 5 - 1 DMC... 09-20-2013, 08:23 AM
Zeon I'm playing cup today vs ... 09-25-2013, 10:28 AM
Vicy Well, what formation would be... 09-26-2013, 07:07 AM
anfield hero\'s I play against this formation... 09-26-2013, 07:33 PM
NeoWilson 3W-2DMC-2MC-3ST .. weird... 09-27-2013, 11:18 AM
Alan Štemberga Counter Discovered: 4 - 2... 09-27-2013, 12:35 PM
dv8r +1 on the formation -1 on... 09-28-2013, 09:23 PM
July Fourth The counter for everything is... 09-27-2013, 11:00 PM
TimYoung Neah, that is not true. Dont... 09-28-2013, 01:04 AM
Vladimir Kalinin -dc-dc-dc- dmr-dmc-dml- ... 09-29-2013, 01:33 AM
Vladimir Kalinin -dc-dc-dc- -mc-mc-mc-... 09-29-2013, 01:36 AM
B F C Don't have any idea how to... 09-29-2013, 09:14 AM
Marcin Jaga DR DC DC DL MC MC AMR... 09-29-2013, 09:33 AM
B F C TY! Never played whole... 09-29-2013, 10:16 AM
B F C Won 0-2 (away) Ball... 09-29-2013, 03:02 PM
Marcin Jaga Grats! but GK injuired? I... 09-29-2013, 03:51 PM
Vicy What the heck am I supposed... 09-29-2013, 11:13 AM
Besmir Rossoneri im in level 16 and i will use... 09-29-2013, 11:29 AM
locopoco -Deleted- 10-01-2013, 03:07 AM
Naretafra How to beat 4-1-3W-1-1???... 10-01-2013, 07:41 AM
Joe Hillis I played 2 Cup games against... 10-01-2013, 03:31 PM
elaiti Hello, first I ask for pardon... 10-02-2013, 01:54 AM
elaiti Hello, thank you for... 10-02-2013, 10:28 AM
B F C Faced this formation against... 10-02-2013, 12:20 PM
B F C How to face this formation...... 10-02-2013, 12:26 PM
elaiti I have all my players to... 10-02-2013, 01:50 PM
B F C You are much stronger, and... 10-02-2013, 02:14 PM
elaiti My opponent : ... 10-02-2013, 03:49 PM
B F C Players with yellow triangle... 10-02-2013, 05:36 PM
elaiti The problem is that I use... 10-02-2013, 09:10 PM
elaiti Hello, already I have bought... 10-03-2013, 12:10 AM
elaiti http://s2.subirimagenes.com/im... 10-03-2013, 12:32 PM
Adam Marszał Ok I'm not a pro but there... 10-03-2013, 01:53 PM
elaiti It is what I asked more... 10-03-2013, 02:05 PM
Vicy 4-5-1 V-style works perfectly... 10-03-2013, 06:12 PM
elaiti This it was my idea for the... 10-03-2013, 09:55 PM
weipro works... 10-04-2013, 11:10 AM
elaiti Hello, if you refer to my... 10-04-2013, 11:22 AM
Vicy What would be the... 10-04-2013, 02:04 PM
elaiti Please, the party is in 20... 10-04-2013, 11:28 PM
zimon how I beat 3w-1dmc-4... 10-05-2013, 12:41 PM
Joe Hillis Some weird Cup game I had.... 10-05-2013, 05:03 PM
Mischa Cali Played against a 4-5-1 flat... 10-06-2013, 10:05 AM
elaiti The DR tape-worm that to be... 10-06-2013, 01:04 PM
elaiti If my rival plays with one... 10-06-2013, 01:24 PM
Si Mon How to beat following... 10-07-2013, 09:01 AM
Alan Štemberga 4 - 1(dmc) - 3(amc) - 2 10-07-2013, 09:46 AM
Fernando Poyato Puerta To beat 4-4-2 Classic this... 10-07-2013, 03:51 PM
Robert Wayne Messmer 13459 What is this? never... 10-08-2013, 03:20 PM
Peter Haralanov Hello guys! Tonight I am... 10-09-2013, 02:38 PM
Ruly Jj Jayden i was play whit same... 10-09-2013, 05:02 PM
usher_LFC Couldnt see it in the list so... 10-09-2013, 04:38 PM
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usher_LFC sorry but what is 3-2-2-2-1... 10-09-2013, 05:45 PM
Peter Haralanov This is the butterfly: ... 10-10-2013, 03:28 PM
khris Hey, I have a new formation,... 10-09-2013, 10:49 PM
usher_LFC I may be wrong but what i... 10-09-2013, 11:24 PM
khris well, finally I am... 10-10-2013, 07:13 PM
Saransh Vatsa U r right. But it is called... 10-12-2013, 04:41 PM
Ravitaneja Hey guys please help me to... 10-10-2013, 03:11 AM
July Fourth Illegal Formation. 10-10-2013, 04:18 AM
Naretafra This game suck!!!! ... 10-10-2013, 09:08 AM
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mandzukic Any ideea how to counter... 10-13-2013, 12:51 AM
Mohamed Mado thx all but can u tell me... 10-13-2013, 07:54 AM
Cleo Teng Allen 3-4-2(AMC)-1 formation... ? 10-14-2013, 10:35 AM
Pegasus FC Try 4-5v-1 10-15-2013, 06:39 AM
Manuel De Mejia Ola Quiero Preguntar Algo ...... 10-16-2013, 01:07 PM
Manuel De Mejia Ola Como Derroto la Formacion... 10-16-2013, 01:11 PM
Ravitaneja Hey guys tell me how to beat... 10-19-2013, 03:34 AM
usher_LFC There is no counter for... 10-20-2013, 01:50 PM
July Fourth Possible counter has been... 10-22-2013, 02:15 PM
fcdan00 please can i have some ideas,... 10-20-2013, 03:32 PM
duchao 4-4-2 or 4-3-1-2, I often... 10-22-2013, 07:05 AM
LoAy El-Sharif hi , i'm new at this game i... 10-22-2013, 01:53 PM
usher_LFC what are the individual... 10-24-2013, 03:48 PM
Chester FC ________st________... 10-24-2013, 06:09 PM
zimon how to beat ... 10-24-2013, 04:05 PM
thukothan ST-ST MC-MC DML-DMC-DMR... 10-24-2013, 05:07 PM
duchao 4-4-2 classic 10-25-2013, 12:57 AM
shamanik I don't play against a... 10-25-2013, 09:38 AM
shamanik 4-5-1 V-Style and 4-4-2... 10-25-2013, 12:05 PM
Chris Rath In my league I watched 2... 10-25-2013, 12:06 PM
Alan Štemberga 3N-5-2 V-Style does not... 10-25-2013, 01:34 PM
Peter Haralanov Aloha, guys! Tomorrow The... 10-26-2013, 10:21 PM
July Fourth I killed this formation today... 10-27-2013, 09:24 PM
Marcusf1981 Hi, My first time post,... 10-28-2013, 12:01 PM
Marcusf1981 Anyone got any thoughts on... 10-30-2013, 09:08 AM
Marcusf1981 Lost 2-0 playing... 10-31-2013, 10:48 AM
Chris Rath Yeah, closing the center and... 10-26-2013, 11:21 PM
Nihal Manzoor i think 3w-4-3 is quite good... 10-27-2013, 10:13 AM
Alan Payne sorry for bring a noob here..... 10-27-2013, 11:39 AM
Peter Haralanov N is for Narrow - three... 10-27-2013, 04:29 PM
Peter Haralanov Thanks for your comments,... 10-28-2013, 02:56 PM
Boros Ioan-Gabriel hello , what mean 3N and 3W ? 10-29-2013, 09:13 PM
dv8r Read the first post. 3N is... 10-29-2013, 11:03 PM
elaiti http://forum.topeleven.com/for... 10-29-2013, 11:29 PM
girl_baby I like 4-4-4 - attacks,... 10-30-2013, 01:40 AM
kaagy2005us Does anyone know how to beat... 10-30-2013, 05:36 AM
Marcusf1981 I think you will find the... 10-30-2013, 09:07 AM
Unbreakable Any1 can display the 3-6-1v... 10-30-2013, 08:30 PM
Marcusf1981 I think that will be ... 10-31-2013, 07:09 AM
Cristi Gata Any ideas?... 10-31-2013, 01:30 PM
Saransh Vatsa How do u know attacking hard... 10-31-2013, 03:27 PM
Cristi Gata Hard tackling, attacking,... 10-31-2013, 04:19 PM
Saransh Vatsa Nice way to find out!!! Will... 10-31-2013, 04:37 PM
Cristi Gata 1455914560 i was very scared... 11-01-2013, 07:54 PM
morpheuz hello all, i'm a lv 4 newbie... 10-31-2013, 02:47 PM
Adam Marszał 3n-5-2 flat or 3n-1-4-2 or... 10-31-2013, 02:53 PM
firebols Hi everybody! Is still... 11-01-2013, 08:26 PM
Mihai Stancu Hi everybody! Try 3n-1 DMC-5... 11-02-2013, 09:27 AM
TheReal How do i beat... 11-02-2013, 03:14 PM
Saransh Vatsa IMO 3N-2W-2N-1-2 shall work.... 11-02-2013, 03:53 PM
TheReal Thank you but i didn't even... 11-06-2013, 12:12 PM
TheReal Is there a counter to... 11-02-2013, 08:55 PM
Eugen Cristea 3N-1DMC(u'r best defending... 11-02-2013, 09:24 PM
Ravitaneja How to beat this weird... 11-03-2013, 01:44 PM
TheReal how do i beat 3N-1-4-1-1?... 11-03-2013, 02:32 PM
Boros Ioan-Gabriel 14687 any ideeas how to... 11-04-2013, 05:27 PM
William Rex hi thank you for the... 11-05-2013, 12:29 PM
Illiniwick 3W 3(DMC) 2(ML/MR) 1(AMC) 1... 11-05-2013, 01:13 PM
TheReal How should i counter this... 11-06-2013, 12:14 PM
Saransh Vatsa @July Fourth Red baron is... 11-06-2013, 03:31 PM
wishaam what is the counter formation... 11-07-2013, 08:00 AM
Saransh Vatsa Use 3N-2W-2N-2N-1. Through... 11-07-2013, 08:37 AM
wishaam thanks a lot Saransh Vatsa i... 11-07-2013, 07:52 PM
TheReal How should i beat 3n-4-1-2?... 11-07-2013, 02:56 PM
Saransh Vatsa 4-5-1 V is the right choice,... 11-07-2013, 03:03 PM
TheReal Thank you for the help, won... 11-08-2013, 05:25 PM
Milea Valentin How about versus 4-4-2... 11-07-2013, 03:37 PM
Saransh Vatsa Play 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond... 11-07-2013, 04:00 PM
Ross Jenkins What is the counter to... 11-07-2013, 06:40 PM
Ross Jenkins I mean 4-1-2mc-2amc-1 lol 11-07-2013, 06:41 PM
Milea Valentin OMFG change tactic How... 11-07-2013, 06:43 PM
Jimmy Carter 4-5-1 Vstyle beat 4-4-2... 11-07-2013, 07:54 PM
Jimmy Carter Do you have any suggestions... 11-07-2013, 08:54 PM
Marcusf1981 Choices choices, do I've got... 11-08-2013, 09:32 AM
Jimmy Siufai hi man, how to beat 3N... 11-08-2013, 12:32 PM
Marcusf1981 The closest counter would be... 11-08-2013, 01:44 PM
Heru Muhammad Khairuddin Can somebody help me to... 11-08-2013, 02:03 PM
Boros Ioan-Gabriel hello, how to beat 14812 11-08-2013, 12:49 PM
Jimmy Carter i think 4-3-1-2.. attack,... 11-09-2013, 11:28 AM
Milea Valentin How about versus 4-2-1-3?... 11-08-2013, 03:12 PM
TheReal How should i play against... 11-08-2013, 05:37 PM
HULIANO 3-1-4-1-1 would work. if you... 11-09-2013, 12:17 AM
TheReal Okay i always lose against... 11-09-2013, 12:28 PM
Kukilon What beats the dreaded... 11-09-2013, 12:55 PM
Jimmy Carter a few days ago I lost 2-0... 11-09-2013, 01:33 PM
Mexanik Recently played against 3DC... 11-09-2013, 01:32 PM
Robert Kacprzak Hello, im gonna play vs... 11-09-2013, 10:51 PM
Mexanik 3-5-2 V-Style, attacking,... 11-10-2013, 09:48 AM
Rando Haugas hy counter to 3W-4-3 any... 11-10-2013, 09:16 AM
Berzelius Hi I think that 3-5-2 V... 11-10-2013, 05:15 PM
Georg Hubich Hi! I am new :-) what do you... 11-10-2013, 09:50 PM
Marcusf1981 How do I counter this very... 11-11-2013, 11:28 AM
Berzelius Hi Marcus, I like to... 11-11-2013, 12:24 PM
Marcusf1981 Hi, I used the above to... 11-12-2013, 02:46 PM
Marcusf1981 Thank you, I will let you... 11-11-2013, 02:46 PM
Jimmy Carter Hi guys, What do you think... 11-11-2013, 11:49 PM
Bogdan99 Hi guys, against 3N-4-... 11-12-2013, 08:41 AM
Eugen Cristea --------ST-----ST---------... 11-12-2013, 09:40 AM
Ross Jenkins Whats the counter for... 11-12-2013, 01:24 PM
kd18 I think there's a mistake... 11-12-2013, 05:32 PM
aster I have a tough puzzle here to... 11-13-2013, 11:26 AM
TheReal Cupfinale. I will play... 11-13-2013, 03:04 PM
aster No way to counter this... 11-14-2013, 02:26 AM
aster I ended up beating him 2-1 at... 11-15-2013, 11:07 AM
Marcusf1981 Maybe someone can explain,... 11-13-2013, 05:39 PM
Stefan Radu Do NOT trust this list, it... 11-13-2013, 09:16 PM
Охрименко Дмитрий Awesome? Thanks everyone! 11-14-2013, 10:56 AM
haos To counter 3W-1-3W-1-2 is... 11-15-2013, 03:10 PM
askel35 Vs 4-2-3-1 - how to deal with... 11-15-2013, 10:21 PM
ahmadowskianaya try 442 ND or 451V 11-16-2013, 12:44 AM
morpheuz hello managers, anyone can... 11-17-2013, 10:11 AM
Daniel Haikal ;) Sent from my LT22i... 11-17-2013, 05:47 PM
Jerry Vuotila Heya! Any ideas how I... 11-19-2013, 10:25 AM
Ryan Townsend Formation, orders and tactics... 11-19-2013, 04:44 PM
djpitt Can anyone help me with... 11-20-2013, 09:50 AM
Krile007 Regarding those formations... 11-20-2013, 04:01 PM
kd18 I used this table twice and... 11-20-2013, 06:37 PM
dhanxxx my opponent use this weird... 11-21-2013, 03:37 PM
dhanxxx my opponent use this weird... 11-21-2013, 03:36 PM
TheReal How would you beat 3-5-2... 11-21-2013, 05:20 PM
TheReal Guys i would really need help... 11-26-2013, 01:46 PM
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zimon how to beat: 1) 4-5-1 Vstyle... 11-22-2013, 02:57 PM
Chester FC I think 1) 4-3N-3 2)... 11-23-2013, 05:24 PM
Reborn from the crypt Hey every toppers fans... ... 11-26-2013, 01:10 AM
TheReal 3N-3N-1-3N is an illegal... 11-26-2013, 01:48 PM
Uncle Roma 15620 Help me people! ;)... 11-26-2013, 10:46 AM
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Krile007 It not sick formation, he... 12-02-2013, 02:02 AM
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  1. 05-05-2013 #11
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    I had a VERY big problem today with a guy playing the 3N-2(DML/DMR)-2MC-1-2 but instead of 3 DC's he had DR-DC-DL how do u counter that? I posted a topic about this, although it has about 32 reviews, no one has been kind enough to answer my thought on how to counter him. Today i lost to him 0-3 and he was playing with 10 players from the 4th minute (his AMC got a red card). Unfortunately i was at work, i could not see the match (which he did getting the 8%) or else the second he was left with 10 players i would have changed from normal to attacking.

    He had 1 DC and 2 MC's in front of him. Imagine the gap between his DC and the 2 MC's! So i put 2 strikers and an AMC with arrows forward to exploit this gap by having his 1 DC deal with 3 players. And although he was playing with 10 for 86 minutes i lost 0-3. Explain that if u can
    The post is called: URGENT Countering 3N-2(DML/DMR)-2MC-1-2 form. but instead of 3 DC's he has DL-DC-DR. PLEASE help me out, tomorrow i play the revans and although i know i have almost zero chances of turning a 3-0 home defeat, i would like to know what i did wrong...

    Thanks to ANYONE who provides me with an answer.
    P.S. Read the first post, so that u can see how my formation was and tell me what happened?
    Thanks again
    Last edited by Kilgharrah; 05-05-2013 at 06:49 PM.
    ...but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror...
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