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    Hey, I have to beat 4-5-1 Flat.

    I tried this:
    4-5-1
    I haven't faced 4-5-1 flat often, but when I did I used the formation 3-5-2.

    3-5-2 against the 4-5-1 flat would be best used with long passing with zonal marking. Attacking tactics should be focused on long balls. This requires a forward with good pace and speed.

    4-5-1 is similar to the 4-5-1 V Style... 3-5-2 is also effective against the V style.

    but this don't work last time.

    I see some matches were 4-4-2 was used, but I don't know the orders.

    Any other Ideas how to beat 4-5-1 Flat????

    I would like to get advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elric78 View Post
    Hey, I have to beat 4-5-1 Flat.

    I tried this:
    4-5-1
    I haven't faced 4-5-1 flat often, but when I did I used the formation 3-5-2.

    3-5-2 against the 4-5-1 flat would be best used with long passing with zonal marking. Attacking tactics should be focused on long balls. This requires a forward with good pace and speed.

    4-5-1 is similar to the 4-5-1 V Style... 3-5-2 is also effective against the V style.

    but this don't work last time.

    I see some matches were 4-4-2 was used, but I don't know the orders.

    Any other Ideas how to beat 4-5-1 Flat????

    I would like to get advise.

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    elric78
    when i played against a 4-5-1 i used this formation and won

    DL up ....DC....DC......DR up
    MC.......MC.......MC
    AML......................AMR
    ..............ST...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoggie View Post
    when i played against a 4-5-1 i used this formation and won

    DL up ....DC....DC......DR up
    MC.......MC.......MC
    AML......................AMR
    ..............ST...............
    Wich tactics do you use?

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    Ignore my post try this

    DC....DC...DC
    ML...MC... MC....MC....MR
    up up
    ST.........ST.
    attack
    both flanks
    long balls
    no counter attack and no offside.
    i also used a 3-5-2 and won 6-0

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    Cup Final Against 4-3-3 wide. He uses 3 DCs instead of a DL.

    ST-ST-ST

    ML----MC----MR

    ---DC-DC-DC-DR

    I was thinking of these formations:
    1. 4-5-1V -> (both flanks) or 4-1-3MC,MC,ML-1(AMR)-1 -> (right flank)
    2. 4-4-2 narrow diamond

    What do you suggest? The match is today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aqprox View Post
    Cup Final Against 4-3-3 wide. He uses 3 DCs instead of a DL.

    ST-ST-ST

    ML----MC----MR

    ---DC-DC-DC-DR

    I was thinking of these formations:
    1. 4-5-1V -> (both flanks) or 4-1-3MC,MC,ML-1(AMR)-1 -> (right flank)
    2. 4-4-2 narrow diamond

    What do you suggest? The match is today.

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    Cup Final vs 4-1-3-2 Wide (Means with ML/MR)
    I think I should use 3-2-2-3
    -ST-ST-ST
    --MC-MC--
    DML---DMR
    -DC-DC-DC-
    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jad Assaf View Post
    Cup Final vs 4-1-3-2 Wide (Means with ML/MR)
    I think I should use 3-2-2-3
    -ST-ST-ST
    --MC-MC--
    DML---DMR
    -DC-DC-DC-
    What do you think?
    I'll answer you only because it's a great match and I hope you won the trophy

    If you saw the 1st page you will find this :
    4-1-3-2 Wide
    4-1-3-2 Wide 3

    DL-DC-DC-DR
    DMC
    ML-MC-MR
    ST-ST

    Countered by 3-2-2-2-1

    DC-DC-DC
    DML(UP)-DMR(UP) (If using DL/DR as DML/DMR, remove the red arrows)
    MC-MC
    AML-AMR (Red arrows if AML/AMR also play as strikers and you want some extra punch)
    ST

    Short passing, through the flanks, attacking mentality, zonal marking,
    pressing whole pitch with offside trap.
    OR
    Own Half, counter attack, defensive, mixed passing

    Other formations known to beat 4-1-3-2 Wide 3:

    3-1-4-2 and 3-1-4-1-1 using normal mentality, zonal marking, own half, short passing, normal tackling, no counterattack and no offside trap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adel Gamal View Post
    I'll answer you only because it's a great match and I hope you won the trophy

    If you saw the 1st page you will find this :
    4-1-3-2 Wide
    4-1-3-2 Wide 3

    DL-DC-DC-DR
    DMC
    ML-MC-MR
    ST-ST

    Countered by 3-2-2-2-1

    DC-DC-DC
    DML(UP)-DMR(UP) (If using DL/DR as DML/DMR, remove the red arrows)
    MC-MC
    AML-AMR (Red arrows if AML/AMR also play as strikers and you want some extra punch)
    ST

    Short passing, through the flanks, attacking mentality, zonal marking,
    pressing whole pitch with offside trap.
    OR
    Own Half, counter attack, defensive, mixed passing

    Other formations known to beat 4-1-3-2 Wide 3:

    3-1-4-2 and 3-1-4-1-1 using normal mentality, zonal marking, own half, short passing, normal tackling, no counterattack and no offside trap.
    But the problem is that I have no AML/AMC/AMR...
    And if I use 3-1-4-2 I won't be defending the flanks...
    But thanks for answering btw =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoggie View Post
    Ignore my post try this

    DC....DC...DC
    ML...MC... MC....MC....MR
    up up
    ST.........ST.
    attack
    both flanks
    long balls
    no counter attack and no offside.
    i also used a 3-5-2 and won 6-0
    OK. Thanks, I will try this and let you know what happend