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    Any ideea how to defeat

    --DC-DC-DC---
    DML-DMC-DMR
    -----MC-------
    AML------AMR
    -----ST------

    Thanks!

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    How to play vs 4-1-4-1, much better opponent?

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    How to beat:
    ----ST----ST----
    -------AMC------
    ML------------MR
    -----------------
    DL-DC-DC-DC-DR
    -------GK-------

    I would be pleased for some advise?
    Should I use 4-5-1 V Style?

    I got this game away my opponent has 19.4 Str, i got 25.4

    Regards

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    I am playing 3W-5-2 V formation soon.

    -----ST----ST---
    AML----------AMR
    ----MC-----MC---
    -------DMC------
    DL-----DC------DR

    Am I right in using the butterfly formation to counter it? If not, what's the best formation to counter it? Never come across this formation before...


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    Need help against 4-3-2-1 (formation & tactic help)

    I need help with what formation to use against
    -----------st-------------
    Aml----------------Amr
    ------mc-mc-mc-------
    ---------------------------
    Dc----Dc----Dc----Dc
    And what's the best tactics to use against it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Adel Gamal View Post
    3-2-3-2


    DC-DC-DC
    DML-DMR
    MC-MC-MC
    ST-ST

    The 3-2-3-2 can be beaten by the 4-4-2 Classic. The 4-4-2 is not thought to be an ideal formation to use, however it is one of the most balanced formations in football.
    Best used with normal mentality, down both flanks, short passing, zonal marking with normal tackling. No counterattack and no offside trap.

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    4-1-3-2 Wide
    4-1-3-2 Wide 3

    DL-DC-DC-DR
    DMC
    ML-MC-MR
    ST-ST

    Countered by 3-2-2-2-1

    DC-DC-DC
    DML(UP)-DMR(UP) (If using DL/DR as DML/DMR, remove the red arrows)
    MC-MC
    AML-AMR (Red arrows if AML/AMR also play as strikers and you want some extra punch)
    ST

    Short passing, through the flanks, attacking mentality, zonal marking,
    pressing whole pitch with offside trap.
    OR
    Own Half, counter attack, defensive, mixed passing

    Other formations known to beat 4-1-3-2 Wide 3:

    3-1-4-2 and 3-1-4-1-1 using normal mentality, zonal marking, own half, short passing, normal tackling, no counterattack and no offside trap.

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    4-2-2-2


    DL--DC-DC--DR
    ----MC-MC----
    AML--------AMR
    ------ST--ST----
    Some people however may change the MC-MC to a DMC-DMC, don't worry too much about this as it will not effect the formations provided and would enhance your ball possession.

    Effective formation to counter the 4-2-2-2 would be the 3-2-2-2-1:
    Tested in great match and it work well.

    -----------ST----------
    AML-------------AMR
    --------MC-MC-----
    DML------------DMR
    -----DC-DC-DC-----

    Flat Formation, but possible add down arrows on DML and DMR to boost defence if required.
    Short or mixed passing, down both flanks, with fast defenders use offside trap, pressing whole pitch in attacking mentality OR
    normal or defensive mentality, pressing own half with force counter and mixed passing.

    4-5-1V Motivated

    -------------ST-----------
    AML----------------AMR
    -----MC--------MC-------
    --------DMC(UP)--------
    DL(UP)---DC---DC-----DR(UP)

    The 4-5-1V Style Motivated is also another option to use against the 4-2-2-2 formation.

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    3-1-4-1-1

    DC-DC-DC
    DMC
    ML-MC-MC-MR
    AMC
    ST

    Countered by:

    4-5-1V Style

    Orders: defensive mentality, long passing, through the flanks, pressing own half,
    force counterattack, zonal marking.

    4-5-1 V Style Motivated

    DL(Up)-DC-DC-DR(Up)
    DMC
    MC-MC
    AML(Up)-AMR(Up)
    ST

    Orders: normal mentality, mixed passing, through the flanks, rest remains same.

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    4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond


    ----ST----ST--
    ------AMC----
    ----MC--MC---
    ------DMC-----
    DL-DC-DC-DR

    The Narrow Diamond is a very effective attacking formation, however the vulnerability of this formation is the lack anything to protect the flanks.

    A 4-5-1 V Style formation can take advantage of the flanks of the diamond with an AML and AMR as well as defend against the AMC by using a DMC.

    4-5-1 V Style:

    ---------ST--------
    AML---------AMR
    -----MC--MC---
    ------DMC-----
    DL-DC-DC-DR

    Another variation on countering the narrow diamond would be by using the 4-3-2-1:

    4-3-2-1

    ---------ST-------
    AML---------AMR
    ---MC-MC-MC---
    --DL-DC-DC-DR--

    Although there is no DMC with the 4-3-2-1 it is still a very effective attacking formation to counter the Diamond with, mainly because of the strong middle as well as having attacking flanks.
    If during the match you feel the AMC is taking advantage, then a simple (DOWN) arrow would be placed on the middle MC which in turn effectively would be turning this formation into a 4-5-1 V Style.

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    4-3-2-1


    --------ST---------
    AML---------AMR
    ---MC-MC-MC----
    --DL-DC-DC-DR--

    An excellent attacking formation and strong in wing attack..

    Can be countered by:

    3-2-3-2:

    -------ST---ST-----
    ----MC-MC-MC---
    DML---------DMR
    ----DC-DC-DC----

    A logical choice formation to use against the 4-3-2-1.. 3 DC to block 1 lone striker, a DML and DMR to block attacks from the flanks coming from the AML and AMR, 3 midfield to keep control and 2 strikers to go for goal.

    3-2-2-2-1:

    ST
    AML-AMR
    MC-MC
    DML-DMR
    DC-DC-DC

    Fight fire with fire, 3 DC again to block a lone striker.. DML and DMR to block the AML's and AMR's which can feed passes up your own AMLs and AMRs to take advantage of the lack of wing defence and one lone striker to go between the 2DC..

    There is no such thing as the perfect formation, however you can look for areas exposed in certain formations and take advantage.

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    Finally this topic copied from an old topic was in the old forum for top eleven and i copied it here so as to benefit all from it and any added information or suggestion in this matter will be appreciated and I'm here for anyone want to ask about any counter formation.
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    I need help with what formation to use against:
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    Thank you

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    I need help with what formation to use against:
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    Quote Originally Posted by forzamilan View Post
    I need help with what formation to use against:
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    It doesn't help you posting twice or more, just take a look at 1st Page of this thread and search for 3-5-2 and you're done

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    I need help with what formation to use against : 4-3-3 , i dont have any ML valid and i dont have AML, AMR and AMC .

    can i play also 4-3-3 or :
    DR---DC-----DC-----DL
    MR--MC----MC--MC
    ----ST---ST

    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogdan99 View Post
    I need help with what formation to use against : 4-3-3 , i dont have any ML valid and i dont have AML, AMR and AMC .

    can i play also 4-3-3 or :
    DR---DC-----DC-----DL
    MR--MC----MC--MC
    ----ST---ST

    Thank you
    You should really think about of buying an ML/AML. Right against a 4-3-3 you could abuse the lack of wingers. In your case check out the stats of the players (yours/opponent) and fight fire with fire. Play a hard offensive attacking 4-3-3, whole pitch, offside trap and counter attack.

    Good luck