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    Just trying to understand the logic here.

    Hi,

    Today i played a game which stunned me.
    I played more of these games before but i always found an excuses that i could blame the bad play on.

    Today tho, today was different and i want you, the experts and veterans among us to help me find the logic in the below screens.

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    My thought going into the match was:

    -attack through the middle, short passing, normal mentality with full pitch pressing, man mark, no counter, no trap.

    I jumped into the match around the 20th minute.
    First thing i did, was checking the stats, he had 80% possession, i could not understand why.

    *Isn't that midfield related ? "possession" ? like who ever got best or more in midfield, wins possession.. ( that was the case when i played Hattrick before )
    *also, lets say that is not the case, how can he get 80% and i get 20%? is it really because of both his DL/DR ? could these 2 defenders be such a big factor in this game ? ( see i am trying to find the excuses again!!! )

    Anyway,

    The game just hit the 50 minute mark, thats where i had to do something about the 80/20 possession that has not changed since minute 1 and i have not even mentioned the shots my Goalie had to face.... That poor guy is havinng nightmares about this game!

    What i changed was:

    zonal marking
    pressing only own half
    long balls forward
    play counter

    The 80/20, stayed till the 90th minute and game ended in a 0-0. Looking at the stats i would say. Im glad i got away with 1 point.

    What is your view on this?
    Schoool me please, i am new to this game and would love to understand this engine, that lets my 5star team be outclassed by schoolyard boys

    btw: Moral was at 100%, i have a payout bonus for a win in the competition and their condition was all above 90%.

    Thanks in advance.

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    You're extremely lucky that you didn't lose 'cause your formation was illegal...

    See here: http://forum.topeleven.com/formation...ion-rules.html
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    Thank you!
    You sir, have schooled me Today!

    Greetings.

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    Illegal formation, also I don't know why you would attack through the middle as he is basically running the same middle set up. Down both flanks and mixed passing is the way to go against a formation like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aossy Pro View Post
    Thank you!
    You sir, have schooled me Today!

    Greetings.
    Haha no problem!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frac7ure View Post
    Illegal formation, also I don't know why you would attack through the middle as he is basically running the same middle set up. Down both flanks and mixed passing is the way to go against a formation like this.
    Thanks for your input,

    Would attack on flank still work even tho i only have players playing narrow?

    I had no players that can play in flanks at that moment. I could have just placed my midfielders in the wrong position and played them AML AMR i guess.
    But again, i had no idea my my formation was illegal and assumed since my team is stronger i could just press the middle with short passing and keep possession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aossy Pro View Post
    Thanks for your input,

    Would attack on flank still work even tho i only have players playing narrow?

    I had no players that can play in flanks at that moment. I could have just placed my midfielders in the wrong position and played them AML AMR i guess.
    But again, i had no idea my my formation was illegal and assumed since my team is stronger i could just press the middle with sort passing and keep possession.
    Ummm I'm not sure as I think thats a middle based attacking formation, I played 1 midfielder out of place (MR as AMR) and he did a amazing job, although that was only 1 spot ahead of his original position so it didn't really make a huge difference. I think if you didn't have a illegal formation you would've won since your team is better. When the wings are open like this running MR and ML is a huge advantage in my opinion.

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    Your formation was illegal 'cause you hadn't set up any players on the wings...
    (You HAVE to set up at least 2 players on the wings or otherwise your formation is illegal) ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Marco View Post
    Your formation was illegal 'cause you hadn't set up any players on the wings...
    (You HAVE to set up at least 2 players on the wings or otherwise your formation is illegal) ;-)
    Yea, i pretty much got that from your first reply Mr.
    and No! you have only schooled me once Today! :P

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    Haha well I wasn't sure if you got it
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