How to Win Against Any Formation?

[Adel Gamal]

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[Adel Gamal]

Sorry guys the MDKII need to make me a joke for everyone, so I'm out and I'll force him delete all my contributions before he ban me forever.

I'm so sorry for the wasted time here in this forum.

He removed my signature for the 4th time because he is sure it was against the rules and disrupting regular forum posts, but i know it isn't.

NOW DELETE THE TOPIC COMFORTABLY.

[mancrot]

how about 3-1-2-2-2?

---ST---ST---
AML------AMR
---MC--MC---
----MDC-----
DL---DC---DR

I lose 3 times

[zareali94]

I need help with what formation to use against
-----------st-------------
Aml----------------Amr
------mc-mc-mc-------
---------------------------
Dc----Dc----Dc----Dc
And what's the best tactics to use against it.

3-2-3-2


DC-DC-DC
DML-DMR
MC-MC-MC
ST-ST

The 3-2-3-2 can be beaten by the 4-4-2 Classic. The 4-4-2 is not thought to be an ideal formation to use, however it is one of the most balanced formations in football.
Best used with normal mentality, down both flanks, short passing, zonal marking with normal tackling. No counterattack and no offside trap.

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4-1-3-2 Wide
4-1-3-2 Wide 3

DL-DC-DC-DR
DMC
ML-MC-MR
ST-ST

Countered by 3-2-2-2-1

DC-DC-DC
DML(UP)-DMR(UP) (If using DL/DR as DML/DMR, remove the red arrows)
MC-MC
AML-AMR (Red arrows if AML/AMR also play as strikers and you want some extra punch)
ST

Short passing, through the flanks, attacking mentality, zonal marking,
pressing whole pitch with offside trap.
OR
Own Half, counter attack, defensive, mixed passing

Other formations known to beat 4-1-3-2 Wide 3:

3-1-4-2 and 3-1-4-1-1 using normal mentality, zonal marking, own half, short passing, normal tackling, no counterattack and no offside trap.

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4-2-2-2


DL--DC-DC--DR
----MC-MC----
AML--------AMR
------ST--ST----
Some people however may change the MC-MC to a DMC-DMC, don't worry too much about this as it will not effect the formations provided and would enhance your ball possession.

Effective formation to counter the 4-2-2-2 would be the 3-2-2-2-1:
Tested in great match and it work well.

-----------ST----------
AML-------------AMR
--------MC-MC-----
DML------------DMR
-----DC-DC-DC-----

Flat Formation, but possible add down arrows on DML and DMR to boost defence if required.
Short or mixed passing, down both flanks, with fast defenders use offside trap, pressing whole pitch in attacking mentality OR
normal or defensive mentality, pressing own half with force counter and mixed passing.

4-5-1V Motivated

-------------ST-----------
AML----------------AMR
-----MC--------MC-------
--------DMC(UP)--------
DL(UP)---DC---DC-----DR(UP)

The 4-5-1V Style Motivated is also another option to use against the 4-2-2-2 formation.

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3-1-4-1-1

DC-DC-DC
DMC
ML-MC-MC-MR
AMC
ST

Countered by:

4-5-1V Style

Orders: defensive mentality, long passing, through the flanks, pressing own half,
force counterattack, zonal marking.

4-5-1 V Style Motivated

DL(Up)-DC-DC-DR(Up)
DMC
MC-MC
AML(Up)-AMR(Up)
ST

Orders: normal mentality, mixed passing, through the flanks, rest remains same.

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4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond


----ST----ST--
------AMC----
----MC--MC---
------DMC-----
DL-DC-DC-DR

The Narrow Diamond is a very effective attacking formation, however the vulnerability of this formation is the lack anything to protect the flanks.

A 4-5-1 V Style formation can take advantage of the flanks of the diamond with an AML and AMR as well as defend against the AMC by using a DMC.

4-5-1 V Style:

---------ST--------
AML---------AMR
-----MC--MC---
------DMC-----
DL-DC-DC-DR

Another variation on countering the narrow diamond would be by using the 4-3-2-1:

4-3-2-1

---------ST-------
AML---------AMR
---MC-MC-MC---
--DL-DC-DC-DR--

Although there is no DMC with the 4-3-2-1 it is still a very effective attacking formation to counter the Diamond with, mainly because of the strong middle as well as having attacking flanks.
If during the match you feel the AMC is taking advantage, then a simple (DOWN) arrow would be placed on the middle MC which in turn effectively would be turning this formation into a 4-5-1 V Style.

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4-3-2-1


--------ST---------
AML---------AMR
---MC-MC-MC----
--DL-DC-DC-DR--

An excellent attacking formation and strong in wing attack..

Can be countered by:

3-2-3-2:

-------ST---ST-----
----MC-MC-MC---
DML---------DMR
----DC-DC-DC----

A logical choice formation to use against the 4-3-2-1.. 3 DC to block 1 lone striker, a DML and DMR to block attacks from the flanks coming from the AML and AMR, 3 midfield to keep control and 2 strikers to go for goal.

3-2-2-2-1:

ST
AML-AMR
MC-MC
DML-DMR
DC-DC-DC

Fight fire with fire, 3 DC again to block a lone striker.. DML and DMR to block the AML's and AMR's which can feed passes up your own AMLs and AMRs to take advantage of the lack of wing defence and one lone striker to go between the 2DC..

There is no such thing as the perfect formation, however you can look for areas exposed in certain formations and take advantage.

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Finally this topic copied from an old topic was in the old forum for top eleven and i copied it here so as to benefit all from it and any added information or suggestion in this matter will be appreciated and I'm here for anyone want to ask about any counter formation.

[dv8r]

I need help with what formation to use against
-----------st-------------
Aml----------------Amr
------mc-mc-mc-------
---------------------------
Dc----Dc----Dc----Dc
And what's the best tactics to use against it.

You quoted it already...
4-3-2-1


--------ST---------
AML---------AMR
---MC-MC-MC----
--DL-DC-DC-DR--

An excellent attacking formation and strong in wing attack..

Can be countered by:

3-2-3-2:

-------ST---ST-----
----MC-MC-MC---
DML---------DMR
----DC-DC-DC----

A logical choice formation to use against the 4-3-2-1.. 3 DC to block 1 lone striker, a DML and DMR to block attacks from the flanks coming from the AML and AMR, 3 midfield to keep control and 2 strikers to go for goal.

3-2-2-2-1:

ST
AML-AMR
MC-MC
DML-DMR
DC-DC-DC

Fight fire with fire, 3 DC again to block a lone striker.. DML and DMR to block the AML's and AMR's which can feed passes up your own AMLs and AMRs to take advantage of the lack of wing defence and one lone striker to go between the 2DC..

There is no such thing as the perfect formation, however you can look for areas exposed in certain formations and take advantage.

[zareali94]

yes ive seen this and thanks, but what orders and tactics should i be using

[dv8r]

yes ive seen this and thanks, but what orders and tactics should i be using

With 3-2-2-2-1, depending on opponent you use normal if same quality or worse, and attacking if better. Focus passing down both flanks, mixed passing style, no counter, no offside trap, normal tackling, zonal marking and own half pressing.

[dimdim1]

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4-1-3-2 Wide
4-1-3-2 Wide 3

DL-DC-DC-DR
DMC
ML-MC-MR
ST-ST

Countered by 3-2-2-2-1

DC-DC-DC
DML(UP)-DMR(UP) (If using DL/DR as DML/DMR, remove the red arrows)
MC-MC
AML-AMR (Red arrows if AML/AMR also play as strikers and you want some extra punch)
ST

Short passing, through the flanks, attacking mentality, zonal marking,
pressing whole pitch with offside trap.
OR
Own Half, counter attack, defensive, mixed passing

Other formations known to beat 4-1-3-2 Wide 3:

3-1-4-2 and 3-1-4-1-1 using normal mentality, zonal marking, own half, short passing, normal tackling, no counterattack and no offside trap.

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no AMR,or AML,or AMC,or DML,or DMR in my team.
does the 3-5-2 works against it?..
i have musc better team from the opponent (25-13),but i need to win with a lot of goals so that i can play with subs in the second game

[Grand_Sable]

Adel - I think other Managers would like to see more tactics on other and unusual formations like 5-1-2-1-1 or 5-1-3-1 and so forth - Is it possible you could edit and update your thread. Wading through 118 pages of threads on this site to find what your looking for takes forever.

[wepes2012]

3-2-3-2


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4-2-2-2


DL--DC-DC--DR
----MC-MC----
AML--------AMR
------ST--ST----
Some people however may change the MC-MC to a DMC-DMC, don't worry too much about this as it will not effect the formations provided and would enhance your ball possession.

Effective formation to counter the 4-2-2-2 would be the 3-2-2-2-1:
Tested in great match and it work well.

-----------ST----------
AML-------------AMR
--------MC-MC-----
DML------------DMR
-----DC-DC-DC-----

Flat Formation, but possible add down arrows on DML and DMR to boost defence if required.
Short or mixed passing, down both flanks, with fast defenders use offside trap, pressing whole pitch in attacking mentality OR
normal or defensive mentality, pressing own half with force counter and mixed passing.

4-5-1V Motivated

-------------ST-----------
AML----------------AMR
-----MC--------MC-------
--------DMC(UP)--------
DL(UP)---DC---DC-----DR(UP)

The 4-5-1V Style Motivated is also another option to use against the 4-2-2-2 formation.



Finally this topic copied from an old topic was in the old forum for top eleven and i copied it here so as to benefit all from it and any added information or suggestion in this matter will be appreciated and I'm here for anyone want to ask about any counter formation.

for 4-5-1V motivated
I face a team in Semi and final using the same formation.
Semi result: 1st leg(0-0), 2nd leg(2-0) against a weaker team.
Final : a team similar skills level to mine

1.What team mentality should I be using and what about counter attacking?
2.any arrow on AML/AMR?

A)my aml/amr is slower and weaker than their DL and DR
B)His aml/amr are weaker than mine