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    Quote Originally Posted by Potemy View Post
    Screenshots would be much more helpful, but I'm glad you've found an alternative formation which works for you.
    look at the difference .. both cup and league teams had almost same average
    both players watch the match, but keep in your mind that my possession at home could be be better with 352, but i got 5% home advantage , so it is more 50-50 really without it , while away one you need to add 5% more bcz my mate was playing at home

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    Which orders did you use with 4 1 4 1 ? I have to face the same formation as you today, I really need to win. Arrows on DL and DR ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shwanko07 View Post
    look at the difference .. both cup and league teams had almost same average
    both players watch the match, but keep in your mind that my possession at home could be be better with 352, but i got 5% home advantage , so it is more 50-50 really without it , while away one you need to add 5% more bcz my mate was playing at home

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    Sorry for the bump, but I'll have 2 important games wich the opponents are using 4-5-1 flat and in the thread of "Table of Counter Formations - What to use?", says the best formation against is 3-5-2 Flat or 3-5-2 V-Style.

    By the screenshots above, it seems 4-1-4-1 give us a better results than 3-5-2 Flat or 3-5-2 V-Style.

    I need some suggestions/advices from somebody, about wich one I must to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shwanko07 View Post
    look at the difference .. both cup and league teams had almost same average
    both players watch the match, but keep in your mind that my possession at home could be be better with 352, but i got 5% home advantage , so it is more 50-50 really without it , while away one you need to add 5% more bcz my mate was playing at home

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    Quote Originally Posted by casper™ View Post
    Sorry for the bump, but I'll have 2 important games wich the opponents are using 4-5-1 flat and in the thread of "Table of Counter Formations - What to use?", says the best formation against is 3-5-2 Flat or 3-5-2 V-Style.

    By the screenshots above, it seems 4-1-4-1 give us a better results than 3-5-2 Flat or 3-5-2 V-Style.

    I need some suggestions/advices from somebody, about wich one I must to use.
    UP... Anyone, please?...
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    can you put screen shot of your team ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pini Shavili View Post
    can you put screen shot of your team ?
    Sure, here it is.

    Q. Teams. (I'm on the right side).



    My team.



    Opponent team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pini Shavili View Post
    can you put screen shot of your team ?
    Screenshots added in the previous post.
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    well..... its hard game so......

    i would go... 3W - 1DMC - 3N-1AMC-2

    ST - ST
    AMC
    MC - MC - MC
    DMC
    DL DC DR
    GK
    attacking
    throw the middle
    own half
    short pass
    man to man

    offside Trap : ON
    counter : OFF

    he will attack you throw the flanks
    your strong side with is the middle with your AMC + 2 ST's

    Put Red arrow on your AMC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pini Shavili View Post
    well..... its hard game so......

    i would go... 3W - 1DMC - 3N-1AMC-2

    ST - ST
    AMC
    MC - MC - MC
    DMC
    DL DC DR
    GK
    attacking
    throw the middle
    own half
    short pass
    man to man

    offside Trap : ON
    counter : OFF

    he will attack you throw the flanks
    your strong side with is the middle with your AMC + 2 ST's

    Put Red arrow on your AMC
    Really hard game. He lost the 2nd leg in the semi-finals and his opponent has used also 4-5-1 flat.

    What about 4-1-4-1?

    Quote Originally Posted by shwanko07 View Post
    look at the difference .. both cup and league teams had almost same average
    both players watch the match, but keep in your mind that my possession at home could be be better with 352, but i got 5% home advantage , so it is more 50-50 really without it , while away one you need to add 5% more bcz my mate was playing at home

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    4-1-4-1 is also good formation

    but.......i would say its more defensive because you got 5 players at the back so if you want to play defensive with counters attacks go for it playing only with 1 ST is risky your attack will be based only on him.

    I like attacking formation batter because its 1 game only you wont get 2nd chance so either go ALL IN or play safe.

    4-1-4-1

    i would play

    Defensive
    throw the flanks
    own half
    long pass
    man to man

    Offside Trap : OFF
    counter attack : ON
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