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Playing someone that has 2 fb 2 dc, lm rm cm cm cm, st st, not I'm set up for 4-1-2-1-2 atm but i don't think that will be too good against the 4-5-1, so I'm asking what would be a good counter to it?
Ah sorry I just found the sticky, not much on the flat but it does have a suggestion of 3-5-2
3-5-2 flat or 3-5-2 V. For future reference, the formation you've described is called 4-5-1 flat.
http://forum.topeleven.com/formation...-what-use.html
Ah nice, why you're here may I ask, is there any basic guidlines for the tactics, mentality etc, for example - play normal mentality if you're about an even team
and is the 3-5-2 flat with a lb and rb or 3 cb?Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcjevans
3-1-3-1-2 (:
lost using those 2 formationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Potemy
it expose your back 4 and flanks even with defensive mentality and counter
Actually, it's a back 3. What arrows and tactics are you using? And what sort of team were you facing?Quote:
Originally Posted by shwanko07
3N at back .. lost at home in cup facing a team 2 points lower than me AVG wise , after drawing 2-2 awayQuote:
Originally Posted by Potemy
my mate who watched this game is my biggest rival in league, unsurprisingly today tried to use the same formation 4-5-1 after watching me losing at home yesterday
what i did is i used 4-1-4-1 .. beat him away 3-0 with ease
so my guess a motivated 4-1-4-1 work better than 352 .. i need to own the mid not only to control the mid but stop them attacking me .. that was where 3-5-2 flopped yesterday.. may be it will work against a team who are far worst or when playing abandoned teams but that means little tbh if you face someone who watch the match..
Hmm I used it today, 3N-1DM-2-2W-2 won 2-0 with over 60% possession, and I wasn't there :)
Screenshots would be much more helpful, but I'm glad you've found an alternative formation which works for you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by shwanko07
look at the difference .. both cup and league teams had almost same averageQuote:
Originally Posted by Potemy
both players watch the match, but keep in your mind that my possession at home could be be better with 352, but i got 5% home advantage , so it is more 50-50 really without it , while away one you need to add 5% more bcz my mate was playing at home
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Which orders did you use with 4 1 4 1 ? I have to face the same formation as you today, I really need to win. Arrows on DL and DR ?
Sorry for the bump, but I'll have 2 important games wich the opponents are using 4-5-1 flat and in the thread of "Table of Counter Formations - What to use?", says the best formation against is 3-5-2 Flat or 3-5-2 V-Style.Quote:
Originally Posted by shwanko07
By the screenshots above, it seems 4-1-4-1 give us a better results than 3-5-2 Flat or 3-5-2 V-Style.
I need some suggestions/advices from somebody, about wich one I must to use.
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Originally Posted by shwanko07
UP... Anyone, please?...Quote:
Originally Posted by casper™
can you put screen shot of your team ?
Sure, here it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pini Shavili
Q. Teams. (I'm on the right side).
http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/821/m2yr.png
My team.
http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/802/q8ap.png
Opponent team.
http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/600/4k08.png
Screenshots added in the previous post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pini Shavili
well..... its hard game so......
i would go... 3W - 1DMC - 3N-1AMC-2
ST - ST
AMC
MC - MC - MC
DMC
DL DC DR
GK
attacking
throw the middle
own half
short pass
man to man
offside Trap : ON
counter : OFF
he will attack you throw the flanks
your strong side with is the middle with your AMC + 2 ST's
Put Red arrow on your AMC
Really hard game. He lost the 2nd leg in the semi-finals and his opponent has used also 4-5-1 flat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pini Shavili
What about 4-1-4-1?
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Originally Posted by shwanko07
4-1-4-1 is also good formation
but.......i would say its more defensive because you got 5 players at the back so if you want to play defensive with counters attacks go for it playing only with 1 ST is risky your attack will be based only on him.
I like attacking formation batter because its 1 game only you wont get 2nd chance so either go ALL IN or play safe.
4-1-4-1
i would play
Defensive
throw the flanks
own half
long pass
man to man
Offside Trap : OFF
counter attack : ON
TY, so much for your great tips. I think I'll go with the 1st option 3W-1-3N-1-2. Thta's what You say, it's only 1 game and I'll go all in. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pini Shavili
TY, Pini Shavili. It works on perfection. I just added also a blue arrow to DMC. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pini Shavili
Half of this victory is yours.
http://imageshack.com/a/img694/1360/bcsy.png
Nice man I'm happy for your win and that you choice to play ALL IN
Sometimes you need to play risky
Congrats for your win :D
Thanks again. It's true for the finals and as You said before we must play ALL IN and I follow your advice, without no fears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pini Shavili
It runs all good, this was a very hard season in CL as in the League (I saw that I won the League 2 minutes ago).
What a glorious day... ;)
Regards and TY for your great advices.
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