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    Quote Originally Posted by gizzmo View Post
    Congrats for the time spent but I am probably missing something there as I do not understand what is guiding you in the decision making. I have tried to make a duel between 4-4-2 ND and 4-5-1V or 3-5-2V respectively and the sheets told me that in both case I was weaker overall. I never ever lost with those two tactics (acknowledged as very good counters in the forum) vs 4-4-2 ND on equal quality terms. The logic seemed to be there as I was obviously told I was weaker in center and better in the flanks, but... What did I do wrong ?
    First of all remember it reflects my mentality, which is defense first. So I weight strikers as 2 players in order to ensure that I mark them with two defenders (double marked). Now for how I use it:

    Formation Spreadsheet-1.jpg

    I will first plug in the opponent's formation. What I see against 4-4-2 is that it is defensively vulnerable up the middle. I also see offensively, it is slightly stronger up the middle. I also notice that (based on the numbers to the right) is an 8 (def), 4 (mid), 8 (atk). It's very balanced offensively and defensively. An attack with 8 is very hard to defend as that means you'll need 8 players within the midfield and defense to be safe. Again, you don't necessarily have to put that 8 back there, but remember I am defense first.




    Formation Spreadsheet-2.jpg

    So with 4-5-1v, what I see that it covers defense well with 7.75. What I personally aim for is at least a 5 in that box. I also look for the absolute value of the attack number to be a smaller number than defense number. In this case, 6.75 is less than 7.75. The lower the attack number, the more likely you are to get goals. So it ok in attack. On the top again, the opponent attack has 8 players vs your defense of 7. This is why I choose high press in this case. To keep the ball in the opponent pitch since your defense doesn't have enough people to cover his attack.




    Formation Spreadsheet-3.jpg

    For 3-5-2v, I see that defense is much lower than my criteria of 5. So it is a very offensive formation (obviously). However, the defense is 3.5 vs attack of 2.5. So that's still good. It is extremely strong on attack since it's 2.5 (anything below 5 is very offensive imo. Additionally, it is still 0 in the mid (neutral). I look for anything greater than 0 in the mid to make sure I don't have ball possession issues. Again, the defense count is much lower than the opponent attack count. So the key is to high press. Also short passing to maintain possession.




    Formation Spreadsheet-4.jpg

    Personally, I used to go ND. Solid defense (7.75), neutral middle (0), great offense (4.25). Again, high press since defense count lower than opponent attack count.




    Formation Spreadsheet-5.jpg

    More recently, I've gone with this odd formation (which I call the middle finger). Extreme on defense (11), very strong mid (4.25), ok attack (7.75). I equal the attack count, so I can go low press.


    Also, the reason I have two sets in the sheet is to be able to do side by side comparisons of different formations. I will also plan the night before for the next day. One side, I'll have my first game and I'll have my second game set on the right side. This way, next day, when I'm struggling to fit the game in during work, I don't even have to think about how I set my formations.
    Last edited by motrin; 10-20-2016 at 11:21 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motrin View Post
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    Personally, I used to go ND. Solid defense (7.75), neutral middle (0), great offense (4.25). Again, high press since defense count lower than opponent attack count.
    the ('3.5') number at the upper left of the last table, does it hold any meaning? i believe it is the sum of all the numbers in the pitch.

    So meaning higher than >0 is favourable? >0 should mean higher possession right?

    last night i played a game with that 'number' equal to 0, and guess what? the result draw 0-0. On side note, my defence is 10, and my attack is -10
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    Quote Originally Posted by woopypooky View Post
    last night i played a game with that 'number' equal to 0, and guess what? the result draw 0-0. On side note, my defence is 10, and my attack is -10
    Out of curiosity, how many shots on goal/target did you have? I'd guess not too many. Seems like you had a very defensive formation.

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