Worse and worse

[Theodor Dinu]

This game is getting more and more ridiculous. First, the live match simulation is utter stupidity, I've never seen a real life player escape marking, dash 20 yards one-on-one and then stop to have his marker catch up to him. Then, when he shoots, he gets blocked. Second, I think I've played countless matches vs flat 4-4-2 using 3-4-1-2, 4-5-1 V and 4-3N-2W-1 with absolute random result. I switched to playing 4-4-2 myself, now I lose 80% of the time against a 3 midfield team. I'm close to calling quits on this game, I can't find any fun in it anymore. I don't have the time to watch all the games or to train 4 times a day like it's suggested, switching between formations to counter opponents it's tiring and needs a squad deeper than the Baikal Lake.

[Bunzo]

I´ve won the league & champions league the last six seasons in a row using 4-5-1 v formation.
I cannot remember the last game I lost against 4-4-2….
The problem could be down to the quality of your team & not the formations ?

btw… The live match will never be anywhere near a "real " match

[Theodor Dinu]

Ok, I'll give a glimpse of my last match vs a 4-4-2. Actually 2, because it was a Cup match. 102.1 vs 98.3 overall quality in my favor. Played 4-5-1V first match, away. Lost 2-0. Watched the match, opponent didn't. Home game, played 4-3-2W-1, lost 0-1. Same, watched the match, opponent didn't.
Tactics: Offensive, down the middle, short passing, full pitch pressing, no counters, normal tackling, zonal marking, no offside trap. I've always kept my team quality to an overall 5 star, I've never kept a 3 star player on my team, so most of my team is comprised of 5 star players, a couple of 4 star players and 1-2 scouts. Since the last season, all started going downhill. I remeber 5 seasons ago I managed to achieve the "Unbeaten" badge in the league, now I have inconsistent results, no CL qualification and knocked out of the Cup in the qualifying round. Level 17. Note that since last season top 3 finishing in the league, knock-out stages for CL and last 16, quarters for Cup have been the norm. Level 16 I finished 7th in the League while having the second best overall team quality, went to the quarters of the CL (where I lost vs a 4-4-2) and quarters in the Cup. And guess what, I've been playing 4-5-1V 90% of the time since I started this game, because it's my favorite and tried not to fiddle to much with it. All of the sudden, everything is in shambles. I even kept track of the bonuses for the matches, to keep the players motivated.

[Bunzo]

I use normal,mixed,short,high, counters on,normal,man to man, no off side

Down the middle is a bit daft for 4-5-1 v ?

[Theodor Dinu]

How can it be daft vs a 4-4-2? It's 2MCs and a DMC vs 2 MC. It's a midfield domination.

[Bunzo]

No…. Your strong points are your AML & AMR if you´re playing 4-5-1 v against …so your wingers should be in charge ?
You were playing offensive yes? well use your attacking players then ?

[Awe Imoleayo Peter]

Work on your tactics, read more on tactical suggestions for those formations and play some friendlies to know which is best for your team. Playing down the middle like you did in that match was wrong, it should have been through the flanks. And most people using 4 5 1 has suggested it is a defence/counter formation. Infact I don't play down the middle it looks a bit clustered for me. I play 4 4 2 mostly and its down the flanks and short passing most times .

[Theodor Dinu]

Ok, after today's loss vs another 4-4-2 who is 6.3 below my average using a 3-4-1-2, I finally give up. It's the last straw. Goodbye, Top Eleven!

[Bunzo]

Ok, after today's loss vs another 4-4-2 who is 6.3 below my average using a 3-4-1-2, I finally give up. It's the last straw. Goodbye, Top Eleven!

Cheerio

[Awe Imoleayo Peter]

Ok, after today's loss vs another 4-4-2 who is 6.3 below my average using a 3-4-1-2, I finally give up. It's the last straw. Goodbye, Top Eleven!

I have been beating 4 4 2 with a 3W 2DMC 3W 2St lately, you could give it a try, normal, mixed, mixed, counter on, zonal, low press, normal tackling.