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The first one used many right orders, while the second one used many wrong orders. The effect of randomness can make matters better or worst.

If the opponent used the right orders with that formation, it is expected that you will not beat that formation using your 'standard' 4-5-1(V) and other variants, at least not easily, even if you have advantage in quality; even 3N-3MC-2W-1 is not good enough. 3N-2W-3N-2 is a defensive formation that is meant to block a maximum of flank attacks in the final third. It is also very strong in the midfield region. The 2 wingers and the ST are doubly marked; defensive wingers and side DCs mark the offensive wingers, and all the 3 DCs can mark the ST. The overall effective marking is 2 defenders per attacker.

There is at least one counter formation for each formation in this game. In most cases, there are at least 2 counter formations. Saying that there is no counter for a particular formation is wrong. This can only happen if there is a flaw in this game or the people who were involved in the creation of this game deliberately programmed it so that there is no counter for particular a formation.

I will tell you why you feel that this formation has no counter. It is because you used the wrong approach each time you faced it. You may have won occasionally because the opponent used wrong orders while you had the quality advantage, and also there is the contribution of what you call the 'roll of dice'.

I can tell you for sure that there is one definite counter (guaranteed unless there is a fault or failure) for this formation and there is another decent one. I have tested those myself several times. The definite counter formation for this formation is not found on those tables of counter formations shared on this forum or elsewhere on the internet, but the decent one is found in some of those.