Suddenly beat by 41212 narrow diamond twice any suggest ?

[Justin Cheong]

First match I use 451v def , low , both flank , zonal , counter on , I lose 2-3
Second match I play against same team I use 352v normal , low , both flank man to man , counter on I lose 0-2 ,
Both I lose in home game , any good ideas to counter this formation ? I suggest counter with 451v before many times but this time doesn't work ?

[Antonio Gustavo Hernandez]

Definetly 4-1-4-1, if you can. Up arrows on DR, DL, MR, ML.

Mentality: Normal

Through the both flanks

Long or mixed passes

No offside or counterattacks

Low press

Normal or hard tackling

Zonal marking

and one more thing when you play with 3-5-2 V, play with offensive tactics. But still this should do better than it.

[gizzmo]

I use 3N-DMC-3N-2WAM-1 (normal/counter/both flanks) with success rate >95%. May become difficult if you are more than 5% behind in terms of quality though. But that's the case for every tactic I guess.

[Toxcatl]

Gizzmo's tactics is ideal. If you want to play more safe, swap one MC with DMC: 3n-2n-2n-2w-1.

[Justin Cheong]

Last time I play against this formation never worry because I use 451v win rate 100% , suddenly defeat twice so amazing . Actually what difference 451v and 4141 ? I am thinking 3132w1 or 3222w1 I will try next time thx bro.

[krabbanstruts]

Gizzmos formation has worked 4 out of 4 times for me against narrow diamond, the only difference is that I have counter off, so normal, mixed passes down both flanks counters off, high press, zonal marking, offside trap off. up arrow on amr and aml. I recommend it.

[Antonio Gustavo Hernandez]

Last time I play against this formation never worry because I use 451v win rate 100% , suddenly defeat twice so amazing . Actually what difference 451v and 4141 ? I am thinking 3132w1 or 3222w1 I will try next time thx bro.

Much This situation changed for me 2 seasons ago, 4-5-1 V and 3-5-2 V started to not work against that and there are actually some posts about it on some top eleven websites, says that while you have 30%-40% chance to win by these formations, you have 50%-60% chance to win by 4-1-4-1. There are actually not many differences when you look at the formations one-by-one, only Ms instead of AMs, but this is Top Eleven mate. You cannot know which formation will actually work before you try Whenever I used 4-1-4-1 I won every match against ND, do not remember the rates of opponents by the way, but they are very close to the rate of my team. I suggest you that try these recommended formations in some friendlies then decide which is better for you. Good luck.

[bixzarm]

For 4 seasons I used 3-1-4-2 (and also 3-4-1-2) with attacking mentality DBF and bring best results...but no more for this season! Now my 3-1-4-2/3-4-1-2 is much better with normal mental setting with mixed focus and style passing.

[Joseph Sjarifudin]

My match against 442 ND

no arrow, use flank and rest normal setting