the first on is not a defensive formations. he's using his def midfielders as attacking threats there. for the second one after he changed, use 3 at the back(left back, centre back, right back), 1 defensive midfielder(centre), 1 midfielder(centre), 4 attacking midfielders(left, right, 2 centre either side of his dmc), 1 striker. use up arrow on ur two wide attacking midfielders.