How to beat 4-5-1 V-Style

[pcmacdaniel]

I've had success using the narrow diamond against the 4-5-1 V. In theory the ND shouldn't be that effective, but its done well for me.

I would think the 3W-4-3 would be very effective countering the 4-5-1 V although I haven't personally tried it. According to the counter formations table its the counter to the 4-1-4-1. Isn't the 4-1-4-1 very similar to the 4-5-1 V?

Attacking, down the flanks, whole pitch pressing, hard tackling, short passing, man marking, no counter, yes offsides.

nevermind, just saw this topic was from over a year ago!!!

[John Naish]

I've had success using the narrow diamond against the 4-5-1 V. In theory the ND shouldn't be that effective, but its done well for me.

I would think the 3W-4-3 would be very effective countering the 4-5-1 V although I haven't personally tried it. According to the counter formations table its the counter to the 4-1-4-1. Isn't the 4-1-4-1 very similar to the 4-5-1 V?

Attacking, down the flanks, whole pitch pressing, hard tackling, short passing, man marking, no counter, yes offsides.

nevermind, just saw this topic was from over a year ago!!!

4-4-2 classic works quite well in countering 4-5-1V style.

[TacticalMaster]

4-5-1V is in fact a counter formation on 4-4-2. My last cup game against a stronger team I won 8-0 Against a 4-4-2 using 4-5-1V. Also I always lost with 4-4-2 against any 4-5-1V team

[John Naish]

4-5-1V is in fact a counter formation on 4-4-2. My last cup game against a stronger team I won 8-0 Against a 4-4-2 using 4-5-1V. Also I always lost with 4-4-2 against any 4-5-1V team

So it is. Despite that I've always found that 4-4-2 is quite effective against 4-5-1 V if you set it up correctly with the right orders.

[pcmacdaniel]

4-4-2 classic works quite well in countering 4-5-1V style.

I've actually been using the 4-5-1 V style to counter the 4-4-2 classic, and its provided me with very good results so far. It's basically total madness tactics and arrows out of the V.

What arrows orders do you use with the 4-4-2 classic? I'm thinking I might give it a try against the 4-5-1 v in a friendly match in a friendly or something.

[John Naish]

I've actually been using the 4-5-1 V style to counter the 4-4-2 classic, and its provided me with very good results so far. It's basically total madness tactics and arrows out of the V.

What arrows orders do you use with the 4-4-2 classic? I'm thinking I might give it a try against the 4-5-1 v in a friendly match in a friendly or something.

Yeah - like someone pointed out earlier, that's what should happen - maybe I've just been lucky, or guessed their orders correctly? I wouldn't advise using 4-4-2 against 4-5-1V when you consider that 4-5-1V is meant to counter 4-4-2.