i usually use 4-4-2 with red arrods on ML and MR
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i usually use 4-4-2 with red arrods on ML and MR
u can use
---ST--ST---
----AMC-----
--MC--MC---
----DMC-----
DL-DC--DC-DR
red arrow for DL and DR,Blue arrows for MC's,red arrows for AMC,ST's
normal,through the middle,hard tackle,own half,NO COUNTER ATTACK,NO OFFSIDE,ZONAL...
OR u can use...
-----ST-----
AML-----AMR
---MC-MC---
-----DMC----
DL-DC-DC-DR
Red arrows on DR and DL..Blue arrows on MC's,red arrows on AML,AMR and ST
with the same tactics..
Both the formation are very effective against 4-4-2 Classic..but see ur team and see this two formation,,..think which one will pick ur strong and quality players..
than choose that
best of luck... :D
I'm sorry I expressed myself in a wrong way I use the 4-4-2 and I want to know how to put orders to play at the best. Tomorrow I play with an opponent in the cup a little weaker than me and he uses a 5-3W-2. I drew 3-3 at home, I used these orders:
Team mentality: Normal
Focus passing: Down both flanks
Pressing style: Own alf
Tackling style: Normal
Passing style:Mixed
Marking style: Zonal
Fource counterattacks yes
Play offside trap no.
Can you tell me if I should change something? I use the red arrows on ML and MR
thanks a lot!
Short passing for flat formations and so this means no counter attack and no counter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghab
teams are flat as 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 3-4-3, 5-3-2, etc. .. just do not use the DMC or AML / C / R? in these cases, then I should put short passes, no Fource counterattacks and no Play offside trap. Other orders then you believe are right?
thank you very much dv8r!!!
That is correct, it's best to use short passing with formations without DM or AM players. And for 4-4-2, you should be using down both flanks with it as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghab
Sorry i am italian and i dont understand very well english can you explain in oder words?
I think you wos saing this:
----ST---ST----
ML↓-MC-MC-MR ↓
DL--DC--DC--DL
------GK-------
i put in this way the arrods?
Arrows go up, you play red arrows on ML and MRQuote:
Originally Posted by ghab
tomorrow i'll play vs an 5-3W-2 in cup. these are our team.
my team
Attachment 5668Attachment 5669
hes team
Attachment 5670
it's ok?
Yes it should be ok
another question, if i wont to play moer in attack or in difens how i can i use the arrowds?
thanks a loot!!!!
If you want more attack, add red arrows to your striker and also DL/DR
If you want more defence, add blue to your DC
thanks dv8r!! You is the best!!!
I always played 3-1-4-2 flat with long passing :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dv8r
That's not considered "flat" though.Quote:
Originally Posted by FC Barcelona
Usually when we say flat, it's based on the colour of the position.. So yours would effectively be a variation of 3-5-2, not a 3-5-2 flat but just 3-1-4-2. That's from my understanding anyway
Ok, i get it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dv8r
Isn't it better to paly through the middle? since he already got the flanks covered. In the middle its 2 against 1?Quote:
Originally Posted by ghab
4-4-2 is played with down both flanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Awglan
I won 1-0 thanks a lot dv8r u is the best!!!!
anyone how about to counter 4-1-2-1-2ND....?? anyone have good idea...?
come è meglio schierare la formazione contro un avversario che gioca con questo modulo???
3-1-4-2 DC-DC-DC-DMC-ML-MC-MC-ML-ST-ST
4-5-1 vQuote:
Originally Posted by Michael Unonk
----DR----DC----DC----DL---
----MR---MC----MC----ML---
----(up)--------------(up)--
----------------------------
--------ST------ST---------
attacking, mixed, own half, hard, mixed, zonal
no counter, no offside
I always win >3-0 sometimes 1-0 league and cup unbeaten. :o
If i meet a team using AM or DM should i use long passing or mixed passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by dv8r
btw the formation 4-5-1 v shaped also through the middle???
Doesn't make a difference, I don't think so anyway...Quote:
Originally Posted by ghab
Thanks a lot!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dv8r
Hi dv8r, I often agree with you on most things but do you have any experience/knowledge to support this?Quote:
Originally Posted by dv8r
I play the 4-5-1V with short passing and I always get above 80% passes completed.
Flat formations are best used with the short passing, I don't understand why but it does work for me. For me, short passing for 4-5-1 v does not work as effectively as mixed passing. A former user, Adel Gamal also said the same thing and justified his reasons for saying it but the thread is gone now so I can't retrieve it.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Pistolero
I assumed short passing wouldn't work with teams using 4-3-3, 4-5-1 flat, 4-4-2 because there is no link between DC and CM and ST.Quote:
Originally Posted by dv8r
I just go by his judgement because he's very experienced. I have tested short passing with attacking tactics involving AML/AMR and the passes are usually cut out, change to mixed and we scored more.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Pistolero
Ohhhhh, I don't play attacking unless I need a goal. When I go attacking, I change to mixed to pick up the tempo :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dv8r
I like to play attacking, it's my style... Hardly ever normal these days, although I might use that for the CL final should I get thereQuote:
Originally Posted by El Pistolero
If I used 3-4-1-2 or 4-2-2-2 I would consider going attackive but my 4-5-1V is a balanced tactic.
Hello everybody ! :)
I am looking for advices to improve orders of my 4-4-2 formation.
Usually I play with this orders :
- defensive mentality
- through both flanks
- own half
- hard tackle
- mixed passing
- zonal marking
- counter attack
- no offside trap
About mentality, tackle and counter attack, it depends on your opponent and about your player characteristics, so I don't discuss this items.
In the past, I didn't play with red arrows on ML and MR, but you are alright and it seems be a good idea.
But I can't make a choice about passing. dv8r gives as advice to play with short passing, July Fourth gives as advice in his guide named 'July Fourth's Unofficial Top Eleven Guide' to play with long passing, and on the previous forum I received as advice to play with mixed passing.
So I am a bit lost. :D
Hello everyone!
I would like to know which orders the best for the 4-4-2-classic formation.
What I have played the following:
Home:
----ST---ST----
-ML-MC-MC-MR-
DL--DC--DC--DL
------GK-------
Team mentality: Offensive
Focus passing: Down both flanks
Pressing style: Whole pitch
Tackling style: Hard
Passing style: Short
Marking style: Zonal
Fource counterattacks: Yes
Play offside trap: No
Away:
----ST---ST----
-ML-MC-MC-MR-
DL--DC--DC--DL
------GK-------
Team mentality: Normal
Focus passing: Down both flanks
Pressing style: Own half
Tackling style: Hard
Passing style: Mixed
Marking style: Zonal
Fource counterattacks: No
Play offside trap: No
If you have any other ideas, please share them with me! ;)
