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Narf How to counter 4-4-2 04-26-2013, 11:53 AM
Maranwe Like you I have never had... 04-26-2013, 12:32 PM
Morgan O\'Bree I never failed to win using... 04-26-2013, 12:40 PM
Narf Actually, a Z-shaped... 04-26-2013, 01:16 PM
Sniperz I use 4-5-1 Flat. Result i... 04-26-2013, 04:08 PM
mlie88 i use dis formation, but lost... 04-27-2013, 11:35 AM
LaKu I got placed in a really... 07-29-2014, 01:52 PM
Narf Can't use 4-5-1 flat,... 04-26-2013, 05:19 PM
Michael Unonk I will have a match the next... 04-27-2013, 01:48 PM
Narf That would be nice mate,... 04-27-2013, 02:48 PM
Michael Unonk as I said, I'll post the... 04-27-2013, 03:07 PM
kateleya michael, may i know did u put... 04-27-2013, 03:15 PM
Michael Unonk i did blue arrow to 2dc and... 04-27-2013, 03:35 PM
kateleya mixed passing or short... 04-27-2013, 03:38 PM
shwanko07 ok .. played 4-1-4-1 vs 442... 05-22-2013, 12:03 PM
Michael Unonk yeah, sometime this game... 05-22-2013, 02:20 PM
Belgji Secret of 4-4-2 classic 12-23-2013, 01:56 AM
Narf Well, congrats. :) For me... 04-27-2013, 03:17 PM
Michael Unonk mixed passing 04-27-2013, 03:42 PM
kateleya thx. bro 04-27-2013, 03:44 PM
Narf LOL, I used the same tactics... 04-27-2013, 04:01 PM
Michael Unonk Maybe u should play normal... 04-27-2013, 04:05 PM
Narf Yeah, I will. :) But I've... 04-27-2013, 04:22 PM
Narf Changed my mind in the last... 04-27-2013, 05:42 PM
Michael Unonk congratz bro.... 04-27-2013, 06:41 PM
chewbacca27 Hi, any experience using... 04-27-2013, 09:13 PM
Narf A bot using 4-4-2? That's a... 04-27-2013, 09:31 PM
Fazil Table of counter formation... 04-27-2013, 09:47 PM
chewbacca27 My team has better quality in... 04-27-2013, 09:51 PM
Mister M just played an away match... 04-29-2013, 01:38 PM
Michael Unonk Nice job bro... well, my... 04-29-2013, 02:47 PM
Mister M just had another match... 05-02-2013, 01:15 PM
Dayan Petrow Conceded a goal during the... 12-13-2013, 11:45 AM
dimology 4-5-1V might fail if the... 04-29-2013, 03:24 PM
Michael Unonk 4-4-2 classic also can be... 04-29-2013, 08:33 PM
Hear_break_kid u can use 4-1-2-1-2 narrow... 04-29-2013, 08:43 PM
Top Yid I used your formation and... 04-30-2013, 04:23 PM
Michael Unonk good job for ya all :D 05-02-2013, 01:25 PM
memoooo butterfly with red aml/amr... 05-03-2013, 07:02 AM
Michael Unonk I thought it still work, the... 05-03-2013, 04:05 PM
Denis Larion Champions league final: I... 05-03-2013, 03:33 PM
Denis Larion To mention also that I set... 05-03-2013, 04:04 PM
Michael Unonk for me, reward is just a... 05-03-2013, 04:06 PM
shwanko07 highly disagree mate .. big... 05-22-2013, 12:08 PM
essokimo narrow diamond does not work... 05-03-2013, 04:45 PM
czopor rly? narrow vs 4-4-2 in... 05-19-2013, 09:58 AM
ahmadowskianaya 7027 this is my way to beat... 05-23-2013, 06:14 PM
Kukilon Won against my main... 05-23-2013, 06:33 PM
Sherif Kamal Ahmed ppl are talking about... 05-27-2013, 12:40 AM
kaelsux Hello everyone .. i have a... 06-17-2013, 03:48 PM
kaelsux ok .. seems that no one will... 06-17-2013, 04:16 PM
dragna I just played a slightly... 06-17-2013, 07:03 PM
kaelsux about the 5-3-2 .. am against... 06-17-2013, 07:29 PM
AuroraXXI The best way to beat 4-4-2... 06-18-2013, 06:03 AM
sdw I think the same but I think... 06-19-2013, 06:13 PM
AuroraXXI That fadhul17's match. I just... 06-20-2013, 08:47 AM
czopor 4-4-2 vs 4-1-2-1-2. 28.5 vs... 06-19-2013, 05:05 PM
kaelsux ok .. this is strange .. i... 06-19-2013, 08:04 PM
sdw 4-5-1 beats 4-4-2. 06-19-2013, 08:18 PM
ahmadowskianaya not always, i draw 1-1 in... 07-09-2013, 07:03 PM
Mr Mercury Paper beats rock. But maybe... 06-19-2013, 08:33 PM
Aris Mistakidis Well guys i playing... 06-20-2013, 05:52 AM
mazen79 sometime this game engine is... 06-20-2013, 07:31 PM
Christian Pedersen Hi guys! This is an active... 06-21-2013, 10:49 AM
Christian Pedersen I played, and won 2-1 at... 06-22-2013, 08:11 AM
Geodude chrillan oldboys based on... 07-08-2013, 09:03 AM
opopofc i would also like some... 07-08-2013, 09:50 PM
hullabaloo i used 3-4-1-2 and won 5-0 vs... 06-23-2013, 11:40 AM
HaHaSa it doesnt care how to play.... 06-23-2013, 12:18 PM
opopofc First hello to y ou all. I ... 07-08-2013, 09:37 PM
Maranwe Problem with 4-4-2 is its... 07-09-2013, 07:18 PM
Pini Shavili i would say go for ... 07-19-2013, 09:32 AM
meis I have hard time dealing with... 12-13-2013, 02:31 PM
Gullible Casper 4 5 1 v Work well for me... 12-22-2013, 01:59 PM
Philip L. Willis Against 4-4-2 classic, ND or... 07-16-2014, 04:02 AM
Philip L. Willis Strange but has a good ending. 07-16-2014, 04:29 PM
Stefanut Stefanut 3-4-12 or 4-5-1 V-Style , ,... 07-17-2014, 07:24 AM
Irie_Ites looks like the Luck was on yr... 07-17-2014, 07:42 AM
Bubba http://i58.tinypic.com/34zkj6s... 07-17-2014, 04:14 PM
soccerLover Used 3N-2(dml/dmr)-3N-2 - The... 07-17-2014, 04:22 PM
IGOR I am playing this formation a... 07-19-2014, 04:31 PM
Olaru Lucian Can i use 4-1-4-1 to counter... 07-19-2014, 04:46 PM
Fc bal op t dak THE best is narrow diamond or... 07-19-2014, 05:21 PM
shakiraa Agree with narrow diamond! ... 07-21-2014, 10:43 AM
Irie_Ites doesnt work for me to beat... 07-31-2014, 04:38 PM
Agam Talwar Depends upon what tactics you... 07-31-2014, 07:29 PM
Philip L. Willis ND vs 4-4-2. 07-31-2014, 08:15 PM
Philip L. Willis To V or not to V, that is the... 08-02-2014, 04:43 PM
LaKu I am playing a friendly match... 09-12-2014, 06:49 PM
LaKu Btw if you have the team on... 09-12-2014, 07:02 PM
LaKu Once again I find myself in... 10-21-2014, 07:59 PM
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  1. #1
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    Problem with 4-4-2 is its versatility, which is also its weakness: there are many ways to set up a 4-4-2 without really messing it up, but also no real focus in the formation. Do they attack down the flanks? Mixed? Short, mixed, long passes? It also works with both a defensive and offensive tactic. That makes it difficult to find one single good counter formation. Not even counting individual strengths of weaknesses. It's why I always prepare for trouble when even a weak abandoned bot team has 4-4-2.
    I prepare my squad in such a way that I can make a narrow diamond, a 4-4-2 myself and a V

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    i would say go for

    4-2-2-2

    St St
    AmL AmR
    mc - mc
    dl -dc -dc - dr
    gk
    normal / throw flanks / own half / normal tackling / mixed pass / zone




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    I have hard time dealing with this 4-4-2 flat formation. In my lv 31 league, there are about 6 or 7 teams using it. I had a decent result using 3N-3W-3N-1 aka 3-6-1 formation.
    Last edited by meis; 12-13-2013 at 02:34 PM.

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    4 5 1 v Work well for me against 4 4 2. Won 1-3 away today
    "If you don't concede any goals you'll win more games than you lose" - Wayne Bridge

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    Against 4-4-2 classic, ND or 3-5-1V, we will see.

    How to counter 4-4-2-screenshot-www.topeleven.com-2014-07-16-11-51-45-league-post-against-dilshod.pngLeading my league, facing the second place team, we are equal is almost all aspect, he is slightly stronger in attack I am slightly strongly in defense, he plays 4-4-2 most of the time, but he is also a weird formation manager, a good one.

    How to counter 4-4-2-screenshot-www.topeleven.com-2014-07-16-11-16-21-vs-dilshod.jpg
    I'm mostly Narrow Diamond, he knows that, I will play a 3-5-1V against him. But will decide, watching what he is up to 3/4 minutes before play time, "Know your enemy, know yourself"~ Sun Tzu, Art of War. I have home and more than likely possession advantage, my entourage is formidable. Nice to have friends, (Note; Possession will not win you a match, but it doesn't hurt!).

    How to counter 4-4-2-screenshot-www.topeleven.com-2014-07-16-11-13-35-dilshod.jpg
    As he is a strange formation player, I may just change to Narrow Diamond, by half time, if I feel uncomfortable. I will waste an AMC by doing that! I do not play players out of position, I'm pretty sure you will loose possession % when you do that. When you are even with the enemy, all the little things matters. Nothing guarantees a win, except luck, not even if you have 2/3 stars over them. We will see in 2 hours!
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    In football it is better to be Lucky than Good.

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    Strange but has a good ending.

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    I'm mostly Narrow Diamond, he knows that, I will play a 3-5-1V against him. But will decide, watching what he is up to 3/4 minutes before play time, "Know your enemy, know yourself"~ Sun Tzu, Art of War. I have home and more than likely possession advantage, my entourage is formidable. Nice to have friends, (Note; Possession will not win you a match, but it doesn't hurt!).

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    As he is a strange formation player, I may just change to Narrow Diamond, by half time, if I feel uncomfortable. I will waste an AMC by doing that! I do not play players out of position, I'm pretty sure you will loose possession % when you do that. When you are even with the enemy, all the little things matters. Nothing guarantees a win, except luck, not even if you have 2/3 stars over them. We will see in 2 hours!

    Well I'd push the time back twice into the next day and he still turned up! LOL... he is on to me, brought his own entourage, not bad and neutralized half of mines. Has only a 7% advantage at home, the worst I have ever had.
    He started weird and ended even more weird with his formations, voodoo management, but he still lost. I went with a 4-5-1V and kept it all game. He was expecting a Diamond and the V may have thrown him off. I was lucky.
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    3-4-12 or 4-5-1 V-Style , , 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly , 4-4-1-1 , 3-1(DMC)-2N(MC)-3W(AML/AMR/AMC)-1 ,

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    looks like the Luck was on yr side, i`ve lost my last games against 442classic with 451v, so i dont believe in 451v anymore....442 is the best
    or
    u can try 3-5-2 with aml/amr,

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    This worked more than 4-5-1 V-S
    ...anyway, i'm in love with 4-5-1 V-S, so it's about your choice!

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    Used 3N-2(dml/dmr)-3N-2 - The home match is in 2 days, so any suggestions are welcome
    Lost 1:2 away for CL match against much better quality team ( my team Q 36.2 & his team Q 39.4 ).
    Against 4-4-2 I used 3N-2(dml/dmr)-3N-2. I can't used narrow diamond because his DCs,MCs and Sts are stronger and also 4-5-1V because its never works for me. With 4-5-1V I always lost against lower quality team . With 3n-2-3n-2 my order was :
    team mentality : defensive
    focus passing : down both flanks
    Pressing style : Own half
    Tackling style : Hard
    Passing style : mixed
    Marking style : Zonal
    Force counterattacks : ON and No offside trap.
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