dv8r could i ask why is hexagon better than butterfly in this situation? I thought butterfly is a formation that heavily attacks in flanks which would easily destroy 4-1-3n-2. I know your pretty good in counters so could you point out my mistake? Just want to learn a bit more.

kaukasgr: you could take a look at july fourth's table of counter formations (sticky) unless there is some major things to take into consideration. they work pretty well for me