sdw thank u alot,really nice thread, today i have a match in semifinal and he use 43N3N once i used 4-1-4-1 and lost 2 times,now i think abot 4-1-3n-2 or 4-4-1-1 what u think??thanks again
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sdw thank u alot,really nice thread, today i have a match in semifinal and he use 43N3N once i used 4-1-4-1 and lost 2 times,now i think abot 4-1-3n-2 or 4-4-1-1 what u think??thanks again
i am using Butterfly Formation. How can i orders with that formation bro? I like orders Defence & Counter, please help me.!!! Thanks you so much
4-5-1 V style is counter formation for 4-3-3Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmadowskianaya
Press your own half,mixed passes in both of flanks.With counter attacks,no offside traps.Attacking mentality or normaln,it's your choise.It depends from the opponent.Use red arrows on your aml/amr.If he has AML/AMR use blue arrows on your DML/DMR.If he hasn't,use red arrows of your dml/dmr.Quote:
Originally Posted by wanboo237
i used 442ND and i make later a change to 43N12 and i won in his stadion...thxQuote:
Originally Posted by sdw
thanks for your article
Hi sdw,
Thanks for the great thread. It has helped me in advancing my team. Wonder if you have any counter formations for 3N-1DMC-4FLAT-2 and 5FLAT-1DMC-3MC-2? Thanks in advance! :)
First formation : This formation is made to counter stron AMC and attack the flanks.This formation is counter-attack of 4-3N-1-2.When someone has 3N (DC's) and doesn't have any wings,you can counter him with AML/AMR.4-3N-2(AML/AMR)-1 is good for countering this formation.4-5-1 V style is good too.The best which I can suggest you is the butterfly - 3 DC's,DML and DMR,2 MC's,AML and AMR,Striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pegasus FC
sdw i have another important question,tomorrow i play final with stronger than me,he use 4-3N-1-2, how to counter this?i think about 451V or 442ND...need ur help and thx:)
Dont use 451V.There is no sense but everytime I use 451V vs. this formation I loose from weaker opponents.Try 3DC's,DMC,ML,MC,MC,MR,2 ST(or AMC and one ST).Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmadowskianaya
3DC's?and he have strong 2ST's??
what about 4-1-3N-2?:)
Butterfly - 3 DC,DML and DMR,2 MC's,AML and AMR,one ST.Attack him from the flanks.He doesn't have chances even he's more stronger than you.4-1-3N-2 is the easiest formation to counter.
Great job.
Using your phillosophy about counter formations, I am trying to imagine which formation would be more effective to fight against next formation.....
DR---DC---DL
-----DMC----
MR---MC---ML
---AMC-AMC--
------ST-----
(reverse)
------ST------
---AMC-AMC--
ML---MC---MR
-----DMC-----
DL---DC---DR
(-----GK-----)
Maybe it can be called a (christmas) tree.
Allways supossing could be using attacking arrows for middlewings.
Any suggestion from you?
My suggestion trying to use your phillosphy as I understand, could be next ones...
having not any MR and not any DMR at my list players (I have for the others positions)
with 3 strikers...
--ST-ST-ST--
--------------
---MC--MC---
---DMC-DMC-
DL---DC---DR
with red arrows for wingsbacks?
or better...
with 2 strikers
---ST---ST--
--AMC-AMC--
-----MC-----
--DMC-DMC--
DR---DC---DL
and again red arrows?
or...
---ST---ST---
--------------
ML---MC---(MR) (dont have MR but may be using it excepcionally)
--DMC-DMC---
--DC-DC-DC--
red arrows for middelwingers?
or just enought 1 st with 2 amc maybe like this...
------ST------
--AMC--AMC--
ML---MC---(MR)
--DMC--DMC--
--DC-DC-DC-- (or DL---DC---DR)
red arrows at middlewingers?
Some of these looks like a tree as well.
Thank you if still are answering at this thread.
Cheers.
Guys.
I have a decisive match in the UCL Final.
My opponent has:
DL DC DC DR
DMC
ML MC MR
ST ST
How can I beat him? The teams are in the same level.
i think that the main weakness is the wide defensive line. Therefore I would go 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 or 4-2-3-1 (narrow AMs).Quote:
Originally Posted by LesterMind
Hi guys !
I also have a FINAL today against a team with this tactic:
DR--DC--DC--DL
------DMC------
---MC-MC-MC---
------AMC------
-------ST-------
I have a slightly higher team quality, but we're both 5*.
What would you play ?
Hi do you think that is there any difference (i mean chemistry ) if you play the same formation all the time..or you change it very often.
and second question im gonna play against stronger opponent wich is playing 413W2 what formation do you thing i should play ? thank you ! (i was thinking about 3W3W2AML,AMR2)
how can i beat 4-3W-1-2 is 4-1-4-1 good ?
No,you'll stop his attack but you'll hardly score.Use 3N-3(DML/DMR/DMC)-2-1-1Quote:
Originally Posted by Radu Nedelcu
This is very weak formation cuz he loose one player(his central MC).I used it on the past and the central MC had 4 rating.And I lost from weaker opponent.Soo...dont think so much,you'll beat this guy only if you have DMC.Attackin him from the flanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by misterr
Reverse tactics are not the countering formations.If he has strong DMC,why you put AMC?Put AML and AMR.The philosofy is to fill your defense according to his attack and use your attack according to his holes in the defense.For an example : he has strong DMC,your AMC is not necessary.He doesn't have DL and DR,so use AML and AMR.Or for an example in the defense : he has strong AMC,always use DMC in that case.Or he has AML and AMR.Use DL and DR without arrows or blue arrows.Quote:
Originally Posted by LesterMind
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdw
Yes, but if the opponent has DR and DL (as the example I was asking) and just 1DC but with 1DMC... then...? 2 or 3 ST? and any AMs...??
I think 3 ST with some kind of wings like ML and MR could be very effective to fight against the example.
My tip : never use 3 ST.This will make your formation in the middle weaker and he'll gain ball possession.If he has only one DC use 2 ST.If he use DL,DC,DR,DMC you can have 2 ST and good midfield like ML,MC,MC,MR.4-4-2 is good against this.Quote:
Originally Posted by LesterMind
thanks for this thread man!
But regarding the 4-1-2-1-2 narrow diamond. I've tried using 4-5-1 V against it the last two seasons and ever since the game-engine update 2 seasons ago, I always lose even if I have a better team.
Dont know man.I always beat this formation.What mentality do u use?Quote:
Originally Posted by hullabaloo
how can i beat 4-2MC-3W(AML/AMC/AMR)-1 ? he is level 7 and i;m level 6.... it;s a cup match
Hardly,cuz he's more stronger than you.Try 4-1-2-1-2 narrow diamond.Quote:
Originally Posted by crystynel
How would you counter a maple leaf, as you posted in a different topic?
A maple leaf like this one:
--------ST------ST----------
------------AMC-------------
--ML--------------------MR--
----------DMC----DMC--------
--DML--------DMC----------DMR-
Same quality players
Dont use AML and AMR because he'll stop them easily.He has not midfield.You'll easy gain possession if you have good midfield.Your purpose is to get the center and stop him in attack.He has AMC,so you must have DMC,it's recommended!Think about your own tactic,you're the manager.My tip : use 4-1-4-1Quote:
Originally Posted by Stretch them
please help me against this formation : 4-4-2 ... i know it;s a usual form.. but my opponent use this form like this :
DR--DC--DC--DL
-MC-MC-MC-ML
-----ST-ST----
he is a little stronger than me.
can 4-4-1-1 counter this ? or to use 4-4-2 the classic formation and play right flank
thank you
Thank you. Is 4-3-3 also a idea? since he only has one DC ?Quote:
Originally Posted by sdw
Yes it's good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stretch them
Strange formation.May you wanted to write he has ML(not MR like you wrote).Quote:
Originally Posted by crystynel
So he has ML,not MR.In any case,try 4-5-1 V style.
yes.. he has ML and he doesnt have MR... sorry :)
i don't have AMR... should i play 4-1-4-1 ... wiht AML and MR with red arrow ?
Just put the MR as AMR position without arrows.It's not fatal to change the position.Before 1 week I didnt have MR and use MC instead.After the match this MC's was the man of the match and he scored 2 goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by crystynel
ok . .thank you very much and i will post the result after the game .
any suggestions for the orders and arrows? i will play home
You can use 4-4-1-1.DL,DC,DC,DR,ML(he doesn't have MR,so your ML will have free space to attack,use red arrow on this player),MC,MC,DMR(you can use DMR,not MR,to stop his attack from the flank),AMC(he doesn't have DMC),1 striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by crystynel
Red arrows on your DL,ML,AMC.
I played before and got to about level 11+ then took a long break from the game.
Started again this week and a lot of players seem to be playing the 3-2W-3-2
----DC DC DC----
DMR---------DML
----MC MC MC
------ST ST
Any suggested formation against this?
Thanks
Simmo
4-5-1 vQuote:
Originally Posted by craig simmonds