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    Post Nations League First Edition U120 119,9AVQ Season 133

    MAIN RULES:
    This is a tournament that wants to emulate the real UEFA Nations League.
    It will be playing in a 3vs3 Format for the U120 National Teams and the U140 Format will allow, 5vs5, 7vs7 or more members.

    Each Federation needs to be created by asking here in the Forum, or in the Official Managers Association - Out Game Government facebook Group, having a Forum post and a Private FB Group created by us.

    Iniitially, a "Manager" will be named Interim President and a second one, vicepresident. The President and Vice needs to be someone aiming to promote the Federation and Manage the National Playoff Rounds to select the best managers, that will join the National Teams.

    The President&vice will have a Direct Spot, one, in the U140 Team and the second in the U120 , as a reward for his effort but, can not be "auto declared" Captain, as the Captain will, earn the Role, by own Merits by Playing the National Playoffs that are allowed and fit inside the rules.
    -SO, IN THIS FIRST EDITION, PRESIDENTS AND VICEPRESIDENTS CAN NOT JOIN THE FIGHT FOR CAPTAINCY.

    This paragraph suspended for now -Presidents/Vices can't be captains.
    The President/Vice can, include himself, in the playoffs to try to, earn that Role as Captain, which basically, allow a particular Manager, to decide who faces whom in the Home Legs -so, Home/Away rounds can have different 1vs1 depending on the captains -
    Of course they can decide to have only a administrative task, without playing so allowing others to represent the country.


    The Interim President, Main Federation Admin, can keep his Place for 4 seasons, that will count as 1st the First season we start playing the U120 nations league. After 4 seasons, or if he leaves, he have to call to Presidential Elections, where more than a sigle manager can be voted to be the Federation President (from now on, Elected President, not Interim), been allowed to suggest between various National Qualify Formats during the campaign, and to have a direct spot inside the U140, and being responsable to manage properly the National Playoffs, delegating tasks if needed.

    We will use the OMA FB Group Inbox to receive the votes. That will need to be validated.

    Presidents May be impeached if after 2 seasons the National Federations wish, needing a request with support that will be sent to the OMA Government, and will need to be endorsed by 2/3 of the Federation Voters, which may need, for transparency, to be added in a census to be allowed to vote, as only National Managers should be allowed to vote.
    We could make this easy by using a goodle form to register people, before call to elections.
    We could too, vote using the Forms.

    FEDERATIONS ELECTORAL SYSTEM


    We will try to have a realistic system, but same time easy to manage to allow managers to represent the nation winning presidential elections so they will have the Role as main Admins of a particular Federation.

    Once the Federation call to it's member to elections, Candidatures need to be created, with a "programm" that will have 5 headlands and, different options that are allowed, and can be selected to configurate the programm:
    These are

    1- PROGRAMM

    1- Presidency Rights
    The President and Vice, can join Directly the U140 and U120 Team, depending on their AvQ and, both can't be in the same squad to participate in the same tournament. This can allow the players to vote for a "strong candidate to be directly inside a squad to represent the country.

    So the options here for the President are-
    -Join the U140 or U120
    -Don't join, so, do Administrative Tasks



    2-Vice Rights
    Same options as Captain, basically. Can reject to play, or join a team that needs to be different than the one selected by the President, as both can't coincide.

    3- National Cup Format - Playoffs to allow managers to earn a spot for the National Team

    Once we "know" if the President/Vice will directly occupy a spot inside the U120 3 or U140 5, the rest of the spots are open to be earned by the national players and by own merit, playing some kind of playoff. It can be:
    -Playoff with a draw per round, consisting in 1 unique leg, till the finale for a particular "place in the team" (2 legs)
    -1 leg and till some point 2 legs.
    -Groups of 3 Teams could be accepted at some point, giving the spot to the best manager of the 3.
    -We need to count the spots pending to cover, so if, there are only 2 spots to cover (+3rd for the president) we could allow a qualify Round teaming managers in groups of 2, so the best 2, ern the place.

    4- Captaincy
    The Captain have a Role in these tournaments, and is, to decide "who faces whom" in the Home Matches.
    Thats a strategic role that needs to be won by merit by playing the National Playoffs and, winning a Place inside the National Team.
    President and Vice have a direct spot in each one of the tteams if they want but they can't be captains.

    The President will set the requirements to be captain before the National Playoffs start.
    These requirements can be:
    -More points won during playoffs + Goal differance
    -Better scorer inside the squad
    -Better GK inside the squad
    -Match Played between theose who earn a Spot in the National Team and want the place*

    Another Formula easy to check out, but basically this point talk about known rules to win the captincy right.

    The Manager winning a place for the National Team and having the best stats in the fields that are requided to earn the captaincy, will be anmed National U120/140 Captain.

    The same amount of matches will be counted and taken into account for all in the fight for the captaincy.
    So if, to determine for example, "which 8 managers of 10 that wanna join" a pre-playoff is needed to determine who joins and which 2 are eliminated, this extra round stats will not count.


    5- Incentives-
    The candidated can find the way to reward the Managers if they win the Nations League by Private/collaborative sources.

    2- ELECTIONS


    CENSUS
    We will first of all do a list of participants that will vote -census- using a google form, or post. It will be public to try to avoid multi accounts.

    VOTE - FIRST ROUND /SECOND ROUND

    We can use, publicly allowigng to post a reply, giving a specific time to vote. Too we could use the imbox of the own OMA or any other tool.
    If there's a candidate with the 50%+1 of votes will be declared president.

    If Nobody have the 50%+1, the best 2 will fight for the Presidency in a 2nd Roud.

    IMPEACHMENT
    A Impeachment can be required after 2 months since a President won the elections, needing to be requested with support to the OMA Government and will be voted/endorsed by the federation members needing at least a support of 2/3 of the effective voters (those who vote YEA-NAI).


    to edit**

    List of Presidents/Organizers per country - will have a private chat
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    List of Summoned Players per Nation
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    DIVISION A ( 3GROUPS OF 4 NATIONS - First of Group and best second go to the Playoffs Round of Semifinals - 4th Placed Relegated to Division B)
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    DIVISION B (3 GROUPS OF 3 NATIONS - First of Group Promotes to Division A)
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    (Teams initially placed depending on the activity of the Federations/members etc)


    To edi***

    We want something, easy, quick and constant. Transversal reaching out all managers and communities. And of course, to have fun playing something realistic.
    Last edited by khris; 04-26-2020 at 12:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    MAIN RULES:
    This is a tournament that wants to emulate the real UEFA Nations League.
    It will be playing in a 3vs3 Format for the U120 National Teams and the U140 Format will allow, 5vs5, 7vs7 or more members.

    Each Federation needs to be created by asking here in the Forum, or in the Official Managers Association - Out Game Government facebook Group, having a Forum post and a Private FB Group created by us.

    Iniitially, a "Manager" will be named Interim President. The President needs to be someone aiming to promote the Federation and Manage the National Playoff Rounds to select the best managers, that will join the National Teams.

    The President will have a Direct Spot, in the U140 Team, as a reward for his effort but, can not be "auto declared" Captain, as the Captain will, earn the Role, by own Merits by Playing the National Playoffs that are allowed and fit inside the rules.
    The President can, include himself, in the playoffs to try to, earn that Role as Captain, which basically, allow a particular Manager, to decide who faces whom in the Home Legs -so, Home/Away rounds can have different 1vs1 depending on the captains -

    The Interim President, Main Federation Admin, can keep his Place for 4 seasons, that will count as 1st the First season we start playing the U120 nations league. After 4 seasons, or if he leaves, he have to call to Presidential Elections, where more than a sigle manager can be voted to be the Federation President (from now on, Elected President, not Interim), been allowed to suggest between various National Qualify Formats during the campaign, and to have a direct spot inside the U140, and being responsable to manage properly the National Playoffs, delegating tasks if needed.

    We will use the OMA FB Group Inbox to receive the votes. That will need to be validated.

    Presidents May be impeached if after 2 seasons the National Federations wish, needing a request with support that will be sent to the OMA Government, and will need to be endorsed by 2/3 of the Federation Voters, which may need, for transparency, to be added in a census to be allowed to vote, as only National Managers should be allowed to vote.
    We could make this easy by using a goodle form to register people, before call to elections.
    We could too, vote using the Forms.



    to edit**

    List of Presidents/Organizers per country - will have a private chat
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -

    List of Summoned Players per Nation
    -
    -
    -
    -


    DIVISION A ( 3GROUPS OF 4 NATIONS - First of Group and best second go to the Playoffs Round of Semifinals - 4th Placed Relegated to Division B)
    -
    -
    -


    DIVISION B (3 GROUPS OF 3 NATIONS - First of Group Promotes to Division A)
    -
    -
    -
    (Teams initially placed depending on the activity of the Federations/members etc)


    To edi***

    We want something, easy, quick and constant. Transversal reaching out all managers and communities. And of course, to have fun playing something realistic.
    Nice idea Khris, but I haven't seen any catch, no sugar... what's in it for us: tokens, greens, or whatever.
    We can all play for free, but to be realistic there has to be handsome rewards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebu View Post
    Nice idea Khris, but I haven't seen any catch, no sugar... what's in it for us: tokens, greens, or whatever.
    We can all play for free, but to be realistic there has to be handsome rewards.


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    It will be a place where to represent the country at different levels of representation, so, as we will have 2 formats, 3vd3 and 5vd5 we can't promise the moon, but as I mentioned in the other thread, for the 2nd division winners, we can send some jerseys, premium basically, and the 3vs3 format winners, can be rewarded time to time with more than jerseys.

    Think that will be few matches too in a high level comp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    It will be a place where to represent the country at different levels of representation, so, as we will have 2 formats, 3vd3 and 5vd5 we can't promise the moon, but as I mentioned in the other thread, for the 2nd division winners, we can send some jerseys, premium basically, and the 3vs3 format winners, can be rewarded time to time with more than jerseys.

    Think that will be few matches too in a high level comp.
    Not a bad idea, is this the Nepal group, it looks like a general group

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebu View Post
    Not a bad idea, is this the Nepal group, it looks like a general group

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    Nigeria here lol check my other reply cause u have the link to facebook, which is here too in this thread I share now

    https://forum.topeleven.com/national...ation-o-m.html

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    Changed this eliminating Presi/Vices to fight for captaincy

    1- PROGRAMM

    1- Presidency Rights
    The President and Vice, can join Directly the U140 and U120 Team, depending on their AvQ and, both can't be in the same squad to participate in the same tournament. This can allow the players to vote for a "strong candidate to be directly inside a squad to represent the country.

    So the options here for the President are-
    -Join the U140 or U120
    -Don't join, so, do Administrative Tasks
    -Play, to join the National Team for own Merits.
    -Or, Have a direct spot (in the U120 squad of 3 managers, or U140 of 5 managers) but, join the playoffs, to try to be the Captain.


    2-Vice Rights
    Same options as Captain, basically. Can reject to play, join a team, fight for a spot, or, get a direct spot, and join playoffs to try to win the right to be the captain.

    3- National Cup Format - Playoffs to allow managers to earn a spot for the National Team

    Once we "know" if the President/Vice will directly occupy a spot inside the U120 3 or U140 5, the rest of the spots are open to be earned by the national players and by own merit, playing some kind of playoff. It can be:
    -Playoff with a draw per round, consisting in 1 unique leg, till the finale for a particular "place in the team" (2 legs)
    -1 leg and till some point 2 legs.
    -Groups of 3 Teams could be accepted at some point, giving the spot to the best manager of the 3.
    -We need to count the spots pending to cover, so if, there are only 2 spots to cover (+3rd for the president) we could allow a qualify Round teaming managers in groups of 2, so the best 2, ern the place.

    4- Captaincy
    The Captain have a Role in these tournaments, and is, to decide "who faces whom" in the Home Matches.
    Thats a strategic role that needs to be won by merit by playing the National Playoffs and, winning a Place inside the National Team.

    So let's imagine that a Pres/vice wants a direct spot in the U120 Team of 3, but, wants to fight to win the right to be the Captain.
    In this case there will be the enough playoffs to allow managers to compete for the 2 open spots that are left, and "if a Pres/Vice wants to win the right to be the Captain, needs to earn a spot and, be the best taking into account, the requirements to be captain.
    These requirements can be:
    -More points won during playoffs + Goal differance
    -Better scorer inside the squad
    -Better GK inside the squad

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    Changed this eliminating Presi/Vices to fight for captaincy

    1- PROGRAMM

    1- Presidency Rights
    The President and Vice, can join Directly the U140 and U120 Team, depending on their AvQ and, both can't be in the same squad to participate in the same tournament. This can allow the players to vote for a "strong candidate to be directly inside a squad to represent the country.

    So the options here for the President are-
    -Join the U140 or U120
    -Don't join, so, do Administrative Tasks
    -Play, to join the National Team for own Merits.
    -Or, Have a direct spot (in the U120 squad of 3 managers, or U140 of 5 managers) but, join the playoffs, to try to be the Captain.


    2-Vice Rights
    Same options as Captain, basically. Can reject to play, join a team, fight for a spot, or, get a direct spot, and join playoffs to try to win the right to be the captain.

    3- National Cup Format - Playoffs to allow managers to earn a spot for the National Team

    Once we "know" if the President/Vice will directly occupy a spot inside the U120 3 or U140 5, the rest of the spots are open to be earned by the national players and by own merit, playing some kind of playoff. It can be:
    -Playoff with a draw per round, consisting in 1 unique leg, till the finale for a particular "place in the team" (2 legs)
    -1 leg and till some point 2 legs.
    -Groups of 3 Teams could be accepted at some point, giving the spot to the best manager of the 3.
    -We need to count the spots pending to cover, so if, there are only 2 spots to cover (+3rd for the president) we could allow a qualify Round teaming managers in groups of 2, so the best 2, ern the place.

    4- Captaincy
    The Captain have a Role in these tournaments, and is, to decide "who faces whom" in the Home Matches.
    Thats a strategic role that needs to be won by merit by playing the National Playoffs and, winning a Place inside the National Team.

    So let's imagine that a Pres/vice wants a direct spot in the U120 Team of 3, but, wants to fight to win the right to be the Captain.
    In this case there will be the enough playoffs to allow managers to compete for the 2 open spots that are left, and "if a Pres/Vice wants to win the right to be the Captain, needs to earn a spot and, be the best taking into account, the requirements to be captain.
    These requirements can be:
    -More points won during playoffs + Goal differance
    -Better scorer inside the squad
    -Better GK inside the squad
    Not bad, but if the Pres and Vice will perform administrative functions, then we also want them to be transparent, regular and available, have complete football knowledge. So as to ensure fairness and trust.

    Meanwhile, I have some questions: 1. When is the tournament supposed to start; 2. How many managers are ready. 3. Where do we get information and updates?

    On a second thought, if the President and his Vice can guarantee to be regular and have sufficient knowledge of organising the tournament, then we should give them the benefit of participating without having to play qualifiers or something. Because, if they win or not, they will have to hang arround and organise the tournaments.

    Thanks Khris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebu View Post
    Not bad, but if the Pres and Vice will perform administrative functions, then we also want them to be transparent, regular and available, have complete football knowledge. So as to ensure fairness and trust.

    Meanwhile, I have some questions: 1. When is the tournament supposed to start; 2. How many managers are ready. 3. Where do we get information and updates?

    Thanks Khris

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    Well, actually I select the first ones who will rule each nation, I guess I know experienced managers. Then the next presidents should be voted by the members, so.... just pick a wise election

    The planning is try the U120 in the season 133, because next season, 131 we play Asia, and World Cup... then we need weeks to organize the national Playoffs and organize the event...

    Better stay tuned in this group which is the main one, https://www.facebook.com/groups/816865198819958/
    Then every Federation have a own group too to administrate properly the competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    Well, actually I select the first ones who will rule each nation, I guess I know experienced managers. Then the next presidents should be voted by the members, so.... just pick a wise election

    The planning is try the U120 in the season 133, because next season, 131 we play Asia, and World Cup... then we need weeks to organize the national Playoffs and organize the event...

    Better stay tuned in this group which is the main one, https://www.facebook.com/groups/816865198819958/
    Then every Federation have a own group too to administrate properly the competition.
    Cool, I have sent my request. That general group makes it easier to organise voting and stuffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebu View Post
    Cool, I have sent my request. That general group makes it easier to organise voting and stuffs.

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