There should be relegation of teams

[ThichDaBongFC]

Eg if Rooney from Man U drops together with Man U to the lower league

What if Rooney and ManU WANT to be relegated to lower level league so they could nominate the whole league, CL.. and even CUP (depend on how many level they "down rate" or in another word, how many star they gain)

There will be managers, some one like you or me, instead of trying to build his team stronger, want to play with some one weaker, win titles, get better trophy room Now I'm talking realistic because tanking isn't good enough )))

[Marc Symons]

What if Rooney and ManU WANT to be relegated to lower level league so they could nominate the whole league, CL.. and even CUP (depend on how many level they "down rate" or in another word, how many star they gain)

There will be managers, some one like you or me, instead of trying to build his team stronger, want to play with some one weaker, win titles, get better trophy room Now I'm talking realistic because tanking isn't good enough )))

Thats a pathetic statement. Wanting to always play weaker teams so that you can win? really? - As for your Man utd theory - thats even more pathetic.

[Maxtax]

Nope, why should they gain a star? The players are just given their stars back.

That is what will be totally unrealistic!

Reminder:
The game is constructed in levels not in divisions, relegation needs divisions, relegation in a game levels could not occur, levels are not existed in real soccer where relagation happens.

[littledude072]

not to mention, who would spend a few months just to get better going back and forth between leagues when they couldve gotten much better by getting promoted the previous seasons? promotions mean more money and skill points. i think not making the CL is punishment enough for some people. lower the promotion to just 4, and probably 3-4 demotees should be good enough
you should know this well that tanking a season doesnt automatically mean youll be 1st in last place. as with the other random 80-20% somehow the illegal formations could win, and probably get promoted

[dv8r]

Notwithstanding that playing for one season in every six would be utterly pointless, that could never be.

Every time you dropped a division/level through relegation your players would gain a star by the proposed system. For your example to work 6*, 7* and 8* teams would have to be relegated first - which is extremely unlikely to happen!

Untrue. You have 2 separate teams in your squad, 11 players of low quality (about 2* or 3*) who will manipulate the cup and the remaining to use for future seasons. You leave all your strong players on the bench apart from the cup... and there you have it, a way to exploit the relegation system. Oh, and you do get an easy cup each season

not to mention, who would spend a few months just to get better going back and forth between leagues when they couldve gotten much better by getting promoted the previous seasons? promotions mean more money and skill points. i think not making the CL is punishment enough for some people. lower the promotion to just 4, and probably 3-4 demotees should be good enough
you should know this well that tanking a season doesnt automatically mean youll be 1st in last place. as with the other random 80-20% somehow the illegal formations could win, and probably get promoted

You'd be surprised what people can do. I pointed out the flaws and people will think the same as me...completely possible that they'll get relegated a few seasons in a row, use their weak team for the league and their strong team for the cup. People already manipulate the cup, what makes you think they won't do something like getting relegated to manipulate the league and CL too?

[Killerbee]

People already manipulate the cup, what makes you think they won't do something like getting relegated to manipulate the league and CL too?

Eh, people manipulate the cup in ways that are not negative for their team in general. Keeping quality low and buying new players after the cup drawing is not the same as getting relegated in order to promote again.
I do agree with the point that people are going to abuse this. But then again, my opinion is that abuse should be punished in a certain way and not necessarily the system that they abuse. Considering the amount of people that play this game and the lack of visible effort on the side of Nordeus, I don't think it's likely for them to be able to deal with abuse in any form though.

[4am]

dv8r: Not quite sure what you mean by this...

Untrue. You have 2 separate teams in your squad, 11 players of low quality (about 2* or 3*) who will manipulate the cup and the remaining to use for future seasons.

If, as widely suggested, the Cup draw is based upon your 14 strongest players then the 2* and 3* won't be taken into consideration. Or am I missing your point?

[dv8r]

dv8r: Not quite sure what you mean by this...


If, as widely suggested, the Cup draw is based upon your 14 strongest players then the 2* and 3* won't be taken into consideration. Or am I missing your point?

The point I'm trying to make is... You have 22 players in your squad. The first 11 will consist of 2* or 3* players and you'll use this 11 to get yourself relegated. The other 11 players would be stronger and this will be your future first 11 (after a few seasons). You only play the weaker players in the league to get relegated with and the stronger players in the cup so at least you have something to aim for.

What would happen is... when you get relegated, everyone would have to gain a star to reflect transitioning between leagues. Your stronger players would probably be 6*, then 7* and then 8* and then 9*. Your weaker team will get stronger too but you can easily sell these players and replace with 3* players. Eventually you'll get yourself a fully 9* squad for your first team.

It's a bit hard to explain but I hope you understand. The cup format is irrelevant in this discussion

[4am]

It's a bit hard to explain but I hope you understand.

Perfectly clear; thanks for the explanation.

It still won't get you anywhere though. If you tank for three seasons, it'd take another three seasons to return to your starting point. However those players are now six years older...

[Marc Symons]

dV8r is spot on - It wouldn't work, and his explanation is exactly what i was thinking.