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    As I roughly understand (sorry that I am carefully read whole your message), your suggestion is fixing a level as top level. Clubs will stop promotion upon reaching this. I honestly thought about it long time ago.

    Unlimited level is a characteristic of this game. This attaches some people who may not want to play after reaching top level. I personally prefer to keep as present.

    I think fixing top league level is possible, but this will ruin the unrealistic but smoothly-running system of T11. The supply of new players, actually I mean norgen should be greatly reduced, So top level teams can complete to buy from a limited poll of players. Moreover, out of contract players should consider to join another team even if the original team offer a new contract. There should be even more other changes are required.

    I don't think it is good to change the fundamental characteristics of a game because some people enjoy them. I don't mean I want you to quit but I honestly think people who do not like such system may find another suitable game to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookizzz View Post
    As I roughly understand (sorry that I am carefully read whole your message), your suggestion is fixing a level as top level. Clubs will stop promotion upon reaching this. I honestly thought about it long time ago.

    Unlimited level is a characteristic of this game. This attaches some people who may not want to play after reaching top level. I personally prefer to keep as present.

    I think fixing top league level is possible, but this will ruin the unrealistic but smoothly-running system of T11. The supply of new players, actually I mean norgen should be greatly reduced, So top level teams can complete to buy from a limited poll of players. Moreover, out of contract players should consider to join another team even if the original team offer a new contract. There should be even more other changes are required.

    I don't think it is good to change the fundamental characteristics of a game because some people enjoy them. I don't mean I want you to quit but I honestly think people who do not like such system may find another suitable game to play.

    I really respect you can play this game for 5 years. I know you actually have your way to play this game.
    The very top level teams already have a limited transfer market (from what it seems). Some get only 3 or 4 stars 'nordgens'. If they reduce the number of 'nordgens', this game will cost users more money as there will be more competition for players in the transfer market (more people bidding for the same player, more knock-out rounds, more bidding wars and so on); there will also be an increase in the need to buy from the scouts' list. This would be a business move rather than an improvement in the game. Despite what it seems to be, there is still a lack of quality 'nordgens' for mid-levels, and sometimes even in the lower levels; there are many days that there were only 3 or 4 stars 'nordgens' or 'nordgens' having mostly certain specific positions, hence a lack of other positions. It is already difficult enough to build a proper team using the auction market only. Also, take into consideration that many people have other things to do; they can't spend most of their time on such a game, looking for players, bidding and so on. So, there is no need to make it more difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    The very top level teams already have a limited transfer market (from what it seems). Some get only 3 or 4 stars 'nordgens'. If they reduce the number of 'nordgens', this game will cost users more money as there will be more competition for players in the transfer market (more people bidding for the same player, more knock-out rounds, more bidding wars and so on); there will also be an increase in the need to buy from the scouts' list. This would be a business move rather than an improvement in the game. Despite what it seems to be, there is still a lack of quality 'nordgens' for mid-levels, and sometimes even in the lower levels; there are many days that there were only 3 or 4 stars 'nordgens' or 'nordgens' having certain specific positions. It is already difficult enough to build a proper team using the auction market only. Also, take into consideration that many people have other things to do; they can't spend most of their time on such a game, looking for players, bidding and so on. So, there is no need to make it more difficult.
    I am sorry if I mislead you. In this thread, I did not aim to suggest to reduce norgens. I just discussed about changes required if a fixed top level is implemented. In that situation, I suppose there will be plenty of top level teams because these teams cannot promote any more. I am sorry that my points above were not thoroughly considered, I did not carefully explain my assumptions, and these points have not yet been able to form a real detail plan. Since I do not really support implementing top level, I do not want to further consider, explain or suggest relating to this.

    Though I do not suggest to reduce norgen, I don't like norgens which suddenly appear from nowhere. Some norgens are fine for increasing supply on players in auction markets. But I rather want Nordeus to provide more academy players. If teams do not use these academy players, they can release them, or sign & sell them. Then these releasing or selling players can supply some players instead of norgens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cookizzz View Post
    I am sorry if I mislead you. In this thread, I did not aim to suggest to reduce norgens. I just discussed about changes required if a fixed top level is implemented. In that situation, I suppose there will be plenty of top level teams because these teams cannot promote any more. I am sorry that my points above were not thoroughly considered, I did not carefully explain my assumptions, and these points have not yet been able to form a real detail plan. Since I do not really support implementing top level, I do not want to further consider, explain or suggest relating to this.

    Though I do not suggest to reduce norgen, I don't like norgens which suddenly appear from nowhere. Some norgens are fine for increasing supply on players in auction markets. But I rather want Nordeus to provide more academy players. If teams do not use these academy players, they can release them and sign & sell them. Then these releasing or selling players can supply some players instead of norgens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cookizzz View Post
    I am sorry if I mislead you. In this thread, I did not aim to suggest to reduce norgens. I just discussed about changes required if a fixed top level is implemented. In that situation, I suppose there will be plenty of top level teams because these teams cannot promote any more. I am sorry that my points above were not thoroughly considered, I did not carefully explain my assumptions, and these points have not yet been able to form a real detail plan. Since I do not really support implementing top level, I do not want to further consider, explain or suggest relating to this.

    Though I do not suggest to reduce norgen, I don't like norgens which suddenly appear from nowhere. Some norgens are fine for increasing supply on players in auction markets. But I rather want Nordeus to provide more academy players. If teams do not use these academy players, they can release them, or sign & sell them. Then these releasing or selling players can supply some players instead of norgens.

    Haa The Academy !!!!


    That is another spot that turns me down in this game from day one !

    If i remember correctly i signed one player from my Academy or formation Center once in all my time playing this game !
    The reason is simple in fact, you get 2 players from time to time not sure how many days exactly if 10 or 12...one is good quality that is around 5 stars and the other usually is 3 to 4 stars...Now the best player costs you 25 to 30 tokens to sign...I mean What ????

    Its from my Academy for God sake !

    I can easily take those 25 tokens and save them and spend from 5 to 8 tokens buying a similar or better youngster at the market !


    Academy youngsters should be a lot cheaper then that...its another Rip off in this game ..Gladly I saw that one sooner and prevented myself from signing this players at such a price...

    Its like you play a war game...they make you build a Tank factory so that you can start building your tanks and then make you pay for each tank you want to build in that factory !...Ballacks !


    But then...it is just another thing that I see along side with all the others that are making me just backing off this game !
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    More like: they make you built a factory that will produce relatively low quality, useless products, and on top of that they charge you absurd amount of tax for each product that comes out if you want to be able to use those products.

    The youth academy, as it is, is a big waste of time and tokens; it is a guaranteed loss for almost all users. The only one that benefits from it is Nordeus; they benefit from the signing, selling or release of such players, and also to a lesser extent, they benefit from the need for upgrading the youth facilities due to it preventing the upgrade of other facilities by level restrictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    More like: they make you built a factory that will produce relatively low quality, useless products, and on top of that they charge you absurd amount of tax for each product that comes out if you want to be able to use those products.

    The youth academy, as it is, is a big waste of time and tokens; it is a guaranteed loss for almost all users. The only one that benefits from it is Nordeus; they benefit from the signing, selling or release of such players, and also to a lesser extent, they benefit from the need for upgrading the youth facilities due to it preventing the upgrade of other facilities by level restrictions.


    I avoided posting in this forum cause I knew that I would post this things...and usually this guys are deaf , blinded and do not speak ever....

    Its a damn wast of time posting on this kind of forums...No matter what they say in this Boards headlines , its about the only info you get...

    Been looking for Dev replies around this boards and didn't found one...

    Pathetic...since we are costumers ...and eventually we are the ones that provide them their jobs !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joao Morgado View Post
    I avoided posting in this forum cause I knew that I would post this things...and usually this guys are deaf , blinded and do not speak ever....

    Its a damn wast of time posting on this kind of forums...No matter what they say in this Boards headlines , its about the only info you get...

    Been looking for Dev replies around this boards and didn't found one...

    Pathetic...since we are costumers ...and eventually we are the ones that provide them their jobs !
    Firstly, at least an appropriate Nordeus staff member must be assigned to read the suggestions and collect feedback, which is unlikely here, though I see some improvements now as I see Moi replying at some of the forum posts compared to before where there was no one.

    Secondly, they must be ready to consider your suggestions.

    Thirdly, it must be relatively easy for them to implement it (feasibility). Things that will require the modification or rebuilding of a good fraction of the system will likely not given priority unless there is a major issue or there is an intention for a major change or upgrade in the future.

    Fourthly, they will likely to consider what benefits (most likely business benefits) any of the suggested changes will bring to the company.
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