DON'T remove friendlies...

... Until you create a better training system.

Those who don't agree with me can go Ferrari FXXK themselves. It's probably those who want their chances of success in this game to be the same as those who spend a lot of time on friendlies, which is not fair.

For those, who don't like seeing dozens of matches in their menu: I don't like seeing all those matches, too. Ask for a new tab for friendlies or something like that, don't ask to delete the whole friendly training, until there is a better training system.

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lol
ok no, but you know, it's not very creative.
You guys must understand how the forum works.
The "weapon" we have here is to make suggestions.
First ofc is to spot the issue and why the players of the game have this behavior.
For example why so many people is tanking and how can we improve this.

Why people started playing so many friendlies and how can we improve this.
The ideas of the Suggestions forum (and from other languages too) are forward to the devs from Voldara
and (at least) attract their attention.
Whatever we write here in posts between, is just a chit chat.

The only thing I like about friendlies, is that finally people stopped making tanking posts every 2 days.

lol
that's why I mentioned that above.
We forgot it :rolleyes:

So, a better training system basically should allow unlimited training in exchange of 0 condition consumption. Im gonna write this in my report.

It would be more easy just give all us 9*s x25... And job done.

There are hints in the forum that this method of training certain skills to a high level will be closed "sooner than later", (and I'm not quoting anyone here).
So as someone else in the forum has also posted "fill your boots", again, not quoting anyone.
Amazing that a trick that has been ther all along is now causing such a stir.
With highly developed players from the GK trick still around for another 6 months or so (if tanking), we now going to have players developed through frendlies floating around for the next year or more.

Yes Chris, I agree that Ferrari should've given that car a more creative name ;)

I created this thread as a response to that recent thread about limiting friendlies without bringing a better training system.

I also think that you admins or moderators have the power to move those 2 threads to suggestions section as you say it would've been better if they were there.

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Originally Posted by KenoticFC

The only thing I like about friendlies, is that finally people stopped making tanking posts every 2 days.

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It is called the art of distraction. If Im right, this occur now cuz before the friendlies had injuries + condition consumption in the earliest versions of the game...

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Originally Posted by Altiplano

There are hints in the forum that this method of training certain skills to a high level will be closed "sooner than later", (and I'm not quoting anyone here).
So as someone else in the forum has also posted "fill your boots", again, not quoting anyone.
Amazing that a trick that has been ther all along is now causing such a stir.
With highly developed players from the GK trick still around for another 6 months or so (if tanking), we now going to have players developed through frendlies floating around for the next year or more.

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That's caused by Nordeus' management or devs not giving those problems higher priority. I'd be glad if they fixed upselling exploit, heavy tanking, association draw manipulation, a very old bug which happens when the association match has to be decided by penalties, training by friendlies (if they bring better training system) ,... But I guess it's more important to bring new challenges and other "useful" stuff.

Friendly training needs no skill and knowledge about the game at all. My 5 year old son could be the best team in his level when he has the time to set up friendlys all day long.

That's the problem I got with it. Even GK training took more skill. You had to manage your ressources (green packs) and train the right players with it, even though the drills didn't matter. But its more than friendlys. You pay nothing and gain a lot, completely unbalanced.

It destroys the game for the casual players. GK training was more casual friendly. Now its spend a lot of time or go ferrari yourself.

I remember that @nikolgiorgos used the exact same phrase for GK training
and we all know how that ended... :D

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Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M

Friendly training needs no skill and knowledge about the game at all. My 5 year old son could be the best team in his level when he has the time to set up friendlys all day long.

That's the problem I got with it. Even GK training took more skill. You had to manage your ressources (green packs) and train the right players with it, even though the drills didn't matter. But its more than friendlys. You pay nothing and gain a lot, completely unbalanced.

It destroys the game for the casual players. GK training was more casual friendly. Now its spend a lot of time or go ferrari yourself.

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It's definitely not easier than GK training.

You can either spend 9-15 red packs for healing injured player or you can buy a new player to replace him for 1 token. So you have to spend crazy amount of red packs per season or roughly 150 or 200 tokens if you prefer to spend tokens.

Not to mention the amount of time you have to spend on doing all this, changing formation tactics and set piece takers before normal matches and making sure your main 11 players will not be subbed to replace injured players in your starting squad for friendlies. If that happens and your important players are used in many friendlies in a day, you will have to spend green packs to boost their condition before normal matches. If you miss that, you may ruin your chances in the cup or CL.

Or maybe I'm missing some easier way of using friendlies?

I will be sincere , i'm doing this too ( this friendly "training " ). But if they ask me , do you like it ? i would say absolutely No. What i saw in this years of playing (5) is that Nordeus is really slow, or better say not "reactive" , to find and fix some exploit that we ( players ) can use. If they ask me, why you are doing this ? To survive , the training system doesn't help at his current state.... and when you see your rivals bump from 115 to 120 in 1 day ( ! ) well.... you need to react somehow. The thing i can suggest is to move the friendly schedules to live matches page, like the last challenge matches.

Well tankers doesn't have to worry about nothing of all this ×D

indeed it's not easy.
I did some tests those 3 days of the new season and figure out that if I 'm not watching my friendly game and intervene, the motm goes to a random player (a DL/R, DMC, MC) which I don't want and my game was useless.

But still it is better than this boring training system.
I 've been asking for a damn repeat button (for individual training of 1-2 players) two years now
but nothing :(

In my friend list there is manager who develop 9 stars team only with friendlies exploit. This become madness, should be stop immediately!

And one more thing, for what training system was destroyed and now we have to play hundreds friendly games? Do you feel how stupid is this?

Instead of promoting creativity with training ... Nordeus damaged the train system to make the game fair and stop creating mutant :D



The devs are now promoting stupidity by allowing dozens of daily friendlies and letting people have full squads of 9 stars above 300% for free :D


Devs are more narrow minded than I thought ...


Return the train system how it was and stop the abuse of friendlies

What annoys me, is that while I’m playing the game - f.i. training or determining my strategy of the next upcoming match - I’m frequently disturbed by a friendly match being planned to start right away, in about 3 minutes from the moment it’s planned. These matches completely block my game play, since I cannot train my players while the match is being played. I’m not interested in these matches since I didn’t ask for them.

My suggestion is to let friendly matches no longer appear in the game of the manager being challenged. No announcement, no live view, no fixtures list, nothing.

In the mean time, I choose to unfriend any manager that schedules a friendly game against me. This is the only way to keep playing the game without being disturbed.

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Originally Posted by Lukáš Ledecký

... Until you create a better training system.

Those who don't agree with me can go Ferrari FXXK themselves. It's probably those who want their chances of success in this game to be the same as those who spend a lot of time on friendlies, which is not fair.

For those, who don't like seeing dozens of matches in their menu: I don't like seeing all those matches, too. Ask for a new tab for friendlies or something like that, don't ask to delete the whole friendly training, until there is a better training system.

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Not sure why you need a better training system before limiting friendlies, I know this game aint exactly life like but being able to massively increase your players ability by manipulating friendlies isn't something that happens in real football and so I don't know why it should be a feature of TE. Nor do players abilities increase in real football as much as they do by training regularly in this game, so i'm not saying the training is great and I cant compare to how it was previously coz I wasn't around, but I don't see why you need to fix or change training before tidying up the ridiculous friendlies situation, friendlies mid season? you what?

Believe me, at the end we will only be able to play friendlies vs Mourinho's team xD

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Originally Posted by Reece p FC

Not sure why you need a better training system before limiting friendlies, I know this game aint exactly life like but being able to massively increase your players ability by manipulating friendlies isn't something that happens in real football and so I don't know why it should be a feature of TE. Nor do players abilities increase in real football as much as they do by training regularly in this game, so i'm not saying the training is great and I cant compare to how it was previously coz I wasn't around, but I don't see why you need to fix or change training before tidying up the ridiculous friendlies situation, friendlies mid season? you what?

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you speak my mind .... in reality no team or even no player can play more than 2 matches per day in T.E. same cup + league or league + CL/ SL ... +1 friendly maximum should be.

All in all, it is a football manager game rather than friendlies game. So we should stop the stupid friendlies training immediately, otherwise more and more managers will quit and the game will be disappeared.

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Originally Posted by khris

Believe me, at the end we will only be able to play friendlies vs Mourinho's team xD

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I hope not! I've deleted him from both teams!

Yes, do something about friendlies. I spend most of my time on TE deleting multiple friendlies from immensely superior teams who are playing my team so one of their players can get a 4% boost from the MoM bonus. One a day each is all I allow from anyone, and that should be the rule.

Better training system? like what? the gk training glitch? yea i like that one but not with the friendlies abuse, not only bad for honest casual manager but for the system too (game engine running weird right now). im not using friendlies method but last season, i still can create 2 140% players, and save up some green for next season, all you need to do is buy the right player and click those ads.

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Originally Posted by Flow

Better training system? like what? the gk training glitch? yea i like that one but not with the friendlies abuse, not only bad for honest casual manager but for the system too (game engine running weird right now). im not using friendlies method but last season, i still can create 2 140% players, and save up some green for next season, all you need to do is buy the right player and click those ads.

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But a 140% player with balanced skills is worthless unless you have hundreds of greens to feed him with every season.
What you need is an 80% player with white skills at 340% and grey skills at minus 1%. Associations and draw manipulation prove this.
The training system with the GK trick and the hidden restrictions in skill development has removed the ability to train players to fool the game engine.
So, for now, we're currently left with dozens of frendlies being played by teams trying to get or keep white skills above 300%, and when this "glitch" is removed Top Eleven will turn into Who Has The Biggest Wallet Eleven? (Token buyers), or Who Is Happy To Tank 4 Seasons Out Of 5 Eleven?
Currently the game is FUBAR or SNAFU (chose your acronym) and we are all being dazzled with rubbish (being polite, here) challenges.