Players Losing Condition

Hi Managers,

Until Thursday last week, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking were using as much condition as own half pressing and zonal marking respectively. In our opinion, and we believe you would all agree with this, it was not logical. Thus, we decided to fix this and, from now on, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking use more of your players' condition.

This change makes the game more realistic but obliges you to take more decisions before and during the game, the latter especially giving a match-watching Manager an advantage over an absent one. For instance, if your team leads 3-0 at the 60th minute, which means the victory is almost secured, you should consider switching to own half pressing and/or zonal marking (of course, if these tactics were not used already) in order to rest your players and start preparing for the next game. Also, if your next opponent's team is weaker than yours, you could start the match with less tiring tactics and see how it goes before you decide to use more condition-burning ones.

All things considered, we're convinced this modification was needed and that it improves the game experience. Our intention was to bring more realism to Top Eleven and by no means to make you use more Rests!...

Be cautious when choosing your tactics! ;)

Fredi :)

This explanation was good :) :cool:

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Originally Posted by Fredi

Hi Managers,

Until Thursday last week, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking were using as much condition as own half pressing and zonal marking respectively. In our opinion, and we believe you would all agree with this, it was not logical. Thus, we decided to fix this and, from now on, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking use more of your players' condition.

This change makes the game more realistic but obliges you to take more decisions before and during the game, the latter especially giving a match-watching Manager an advantage over an absent one. For instance, if your team leads 3-0 at the 60th minute, which means the victory is almost secured, you should consider switching to own half pressing and/or zonal marking (of course, if these tactics were not used already) in order to rest your players and start preparing for the next game. Also, if your next opponent's team is weaker than yours, you could start the match with less tiring tactics and see how it goes before you decide to use more condition-burning ones.

All things considered, we're convinced this modification was needed and that it improves the game experience. Our intention was to bring more realism to Top Eleven and by no means to make you use more Rests!...

Be cautious when choosing your tactics! ;)

Fredi :)

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So does that mean when the 28 week long season, will stop aging our players 1 year (52 weeks) ? Because that would be realistic....

[QUOTE=Fredi;362790]Hi Managers,

Until Thursday last week, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking were using as much condition as own half pressing and zonal marking respectively. In our opinion, and we believe you would all agree with this, it was not logical. Thus, we decided to fix this and, from now on, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking use more of your players' condition.

This change makes the game more realistic but obliges you to take more decisions before and during the game, the latter especially giving a match-watching Manager an advantage over an absent one. For instance, if your team leads 3-0 at the 60th minute, which means the victory is almost secured, you should consider switching to own half pressing and/or zonal marking (of course, if these tactics were not used already) in order to rest your players and start preparing for the next game. Also, if your next opponent's team is weaker than yours, you could start the match with less tiring tactics and see how it goes before you decide to use more condition-burning ones.

All things considered, we're convinced this modification was needed and that it improves the game experience. Our intention was to bring more realism to Top Eleven and by no means to make you use more Rests!...

Be cautious when choosing your tactics! ;)

Fredi :) I'm losing ~40% condition a match ... Are you considering increasing the condition refresh to 10% / 3 hrs? Otherwise it is unmanageable without purchasing packs and ultimately tokens. This change is a shady move to increase revenue!!!!

this is a ridiculous change.

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Originally Posted by Fredi

Hi Managers,

Until Thursday last week, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking were using as much condition as own half pressing and zonal marking respectively. In our opinion, and we believe you would all agree with this, it was not logical. Thus, we decided to fix this and, from now on, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking use more of your players' condition.

This change makes the game more realistic but obliges you to take more decisions before and during the game, the latter especially giving a match-watching Manager an advantage over an absent one. For instance, if your team leads 3-0 at the 60th minute, which means the victory is almost secured, you should consider switching to own half pressing and/or zonal marking (of course, if these tactics were not used already) in order to rest your players and start preparing for the next game. Also, if your next opponent's team is weaker than yours, you could start the match with less tiring tactics and see how it goes before you decide to use more condition-burning ones.

All things considered, we're convinced this modification was needed and that it improves the game experience. Our intention was to bring more realism to Top Eleven and by no means to make you use more Rests!...

Be cautious when choosing your tactics! ;)

Fredi :)

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Sure it makes sense to drain more during a game, but 12-15 hours later on the next match day there's no reason why my 22 year old midfielder should still be hovering around 65%. The recovering time doesn't seem to match up

I changed my mind... Period... I don't like this change... Period...

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Originally Posted by Fredi

Hi Managers,

Until Thursday last week, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking were using as much condition as own half pressing and zonal marking respectively. In our opinion, and we believe you would all agree with this, it was not logical. Thus, we decided to fix this and, from now on, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking use more of your players' condition.

This change makes the game more realistic but obliges you to take more decisions before and during the game, the latter especially giving a match-watching Manager an advantage over an absent one. For instance, if your team leads 3-0 at the 60th minute, which means the victory is almost secured, you should consider switching to own half pressing and/or zonal marking (of course, if these tactics were not used already) in order to rest your players and start preparing for the next game. Also, if your next opponent's team is weaker than yours, you could start the match with less tiring tactics and see how it goes before you decide to use more condition-burning ones.

All things considered, we're convinced this modification was needed and that it improves the game experience. Our intention was to bring more realism to Top Eleven and by no means to make you use more Rests!...

Be cautious when choosing your tactics! ;)

Fredi :)

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I use low pressing and zonal marking AND my players now lose 40% condition, while they used to lose 25-30%.

Is this your realism at work?

Just lies. You just want us to buy health packs.

Nordeus introduced this change by the backdoor, at the end of a season, and only said something when people started complaining publicly. They just wanted it to go unnoticed.

so played my 2nd game of day and yet another injury you can not tell me that this increase in player`s condition has not had on a knock on effect with injuries Nordeus, how are we suppose too manage rotation of squad even if have the full 22 player quota when you keep injuring player below i have 4 injuries would have been 5 but i sold long term injured player and 3 of the injuries were today

edit; o`k won`t let post picture but you will on English forum in the
Players Condition - NEW thead

Fredi!

Answer to this please! Ok i'm accepting your changings about condition loss. BUUUT!

What about if my player physical attributes are much more higher comparing to opponent(s) player(s)???
If you want to make a good simulator PLEASE CONSIDER THIS!
I have a very good example: My country players (Hungary) having terrible "physical attributes" comparing against any good (west) european player(s)... And we are collapsing after 60-70 minutes... And real life punishing with lacking of concentrate, slowness etc...
POINT-BLANK: punishing with goals to rival team... not to mention to rival players can run after 90 minutes, ergo they suffer LESS condition!

CONSIDER THIS PLEASE! after we could discuss a good and logical change!

THANK YOU! :)

I'm with Gabez on this, I give my players super high physical because I *want* them to play like BVB, so I train them to be like BVB.
But it seems to punish my players the same as someone who puts points all on offense.

Welcome!

I have noticed that players get tired a lot better than before and very little rest.
This is a huge problem! There's a solution. Who should repair this mistake!

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Originally Posted by Fredi

Hi Managers,

Until Thursday last week, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking were using as much condition as own half pressing and zonal marking respectively. In our opinion, and we believe you would all agree with this, it was not logical. Thus, we decided to fix this and, from now on, whole pitch pressing and man-to-man marking use more of your players' condition.

This change makes the game more realistic but obliges you to take more decisions before and during the game, the latter especially giving a match-watching Manager an advantage over an absent one. For instance, if your team leads 3-0 at the 60th minute, which means the victory is almost secured, you should consider switching to own half pressing and/or zonal marking (of course, if these tactics were not used already) in order to rest your players and start preparing for the next game. Also, if your next opponent's team is weaker than yours, you could start the match with less tiring tactics and see how it goes before you decide to use more condition-burning ones.

All things considered, we're convinced this modification was needed and that it improves the game experience. Our intention was to bring more realism to Top Eleven and by no means to make you use more Rests!...

Be cautious when choosing your tactics! ;)

Fredi :)

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Don't get me wrong i am a big fan for top eleven, nice game and nice graphics. Bot lately Top eleven is becoming unplayable for me now, because you guys (top eleven) want us to spend more money than we currently are. But watch this space if that is your motive people will start looking for alternative games that are playable, the game used to be fun but now it is starting bore now. The issue of players losing too much condition and getting injuries from left and right, not fun anymore. if this goes on, i will call it quits. regarding tactics if you change from man-to-man to zonal marking possession becomes low and players score few goals to none, and you end up losing even to low quality clubs. You know what? this is driving me crazy, I am out of here... Top eleven get money every month because of new leagues, cup and championship, people buy tokens to bid for new players. What more do they want? even in those competitions you don't win a single token, rest, morale booster or treatment; and now they're still coming up with new ways of making more money.
one more time if you want the game to be realistic, why do we lose our tokens if lose a bid for a player in real life, i never heard of for example Man united losing something when they lose a bid for a player. So please come up with a better excuse.

Absolutely no rest for the players !!!!!
What the ****?

AGAIN, you say condition will not effect injuries and AGAIN i say COD-WOLLOP`S

What a complete joke this game is now.Nordeus what have you done.You state you want to make the game more realistic,changing tactics make no difference to help players retain fitness.Every game my players are using between 60-70% and with 2 games a day it means I am using at least 20 rest to get my players fit again.Started the season of with 172rest and guess what I only have 51 rest left.You state it is not your intention to make managers spend more money on rests but guess what were going to have to now due to making the game more REALISTIC what a joke.Perhaps you should change the settings for FITNESS gain every 3 hours from 5% to at least 10% as this may help managers get players fit again.
All you have done is upset a lot of people and I for one will be thinking about quitting as I am no longer enjoying this game due to your changes.Perhaps you should think twice before making changes to make more money because this change is totally what you have made it for.

I really need to check this more often. I thought I was going mad seeing all the drain and thinking I am sure using a lot more green packs just to prepare for the next match.....

Yes they should tire more if they press more, maybe very slightly with man marking. But since a day basically represents a week in real time most players should be able to play twice without being so dead by halftime of match 2 that they are useless.

No more matches within 3 hours of each other! Make them recover fast enough to play twice a day without trouble......Now 3 I expect to have to shuffle my lineup, but 2 is the norm for pros now days.

Also why should a CB in zonal marking with a back arrow drain 2x more? Is he pressing high up the pitch while also staying back?

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Originally Posted by spornybol

AGAIN, you say condition will not effect injuries and AGAIN i say COD-WOLLOP`S

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sorry oot.. what is "COD-WOLLOP`S" if I may ask ?

We miss before condition system.

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Originally Posted by Samuro

sorry oot.. what is "COD-WOLLOP`S" if I may ask ?

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https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/codswallop#English

short version: bloody nonsense

The condition issue is so hard to manage!.. Especially if you work during the day and there's only a 3 hour window between some of the games!
I've a squad 20 and I have to rotate every single game! It's impossible to keep a 1st eleven to get consistency! I'm in all 3 competitions still but really, it makes no sense being in all 3! 2 games a day wipes my squad!
I've really noticed it this season and my squad is as strong as it has ever been!

Please read:

http://forum.topeleven.com/news-anno...tml#post364472

:)