I've had enough

[Golden Boys FC]

Why do so many people complain about this game? Some you win, some you lose.

I keep reading about how the game is "fixed" to make you buy tokens. I do not agree. Look at these facts.

1: People who BUY tokens, win and lose matches.
2: People who DON'T BUY tokens, win and lose matches.
3: Higher quality teams, win and lose matches.
4: Lower quality teams, win and lose matches.
5: Token buyers get many injuries.
6: Non-token buyers get many injuries.

Now, doesn't this just seem evenly balanced?

I do not believe injuries are based upon how many tokens you have. I believe the recurring injuries players have, is based on how quickly you heal players. I buy a few tokens each season, but don't use them on ANY of the different packs. I currently have 229 red packs and have not used a single one of them on my players this season. I had 5 injuries in the first 7 days, but NONE since.

And just to finish. If higher quality teams were to always win, then it would no longer be a game. It would then come down to just who spends the most. THEN, it would be a fix.

Agree 100%

[gazbert]

£60? ~750T? You would normally have a ****load of boosters and a whole team of 18/19 y.o. scouts from power training.

Will you buy another £60 worth of tokens next season?

No I won't be spending anymore money my team is level 2 so I can't buy young scouted players I only get offered 22 year olds + so I
Just use transfer windows my average team age is 20.1 I have 1 25 year old who I will sell so my age will be around 19.8 then
Like I have stated I really enjoy the game but its a money maker so I will stick with what I have now I still have 523 tokens saved so that will do me

[July Fourth]

For anyone that thinks the game is a fix.... they need to play the game for about 20 seasons and then make a judgement.

I've played this game long enough, I've played it as a non-token buyer, a token farmer and a token buyer and had many results good and bad and seen a lot of things unfold as I go up through the levels, but after many seasons and 4 different accounts of playing... I believe the game is totally fair for everyone.

With the number of seasons I've played I've won many leagues and this season I've been no certainty to win the league along side another token buyer in my league and a non-token rank outsider still has a chance of winning the league.

[gazbert]

Agree 100%

Yes every team does lose your right but how often is the point here
I've lost 4 games this season and drew 4 I'm currently third just 3 points behind but the teams I've lost to never watch there game have no care for there team and there quality is below 15 I'm 30.1 so it's not realistic is it to lose 3-4 games to teams like that
The game is so unrealistic I won a game 14-0 the other day that's stupid no one wins 14-0 in real life

Also the games that great that they allow cheats to play doing token and money hacks they should remove these people surely they can catch them out

[gazbert]

For anyone that thinks the game is a fix.... they need to play the game for about 20 seasons and then make a judgement.

I've played this game long enough, I've played it as a non-token buyer, a token farmer and a token buyer and had many results good and bad and seen a lot of things unfold as I go up through the levels, but after many seasons and 4 different accounts of playing... I believe the game is totally fair for everyone.

With the number of seasons I've played I've won many leagues and this season I've been no certainty to win the league along side another token buyer in my league and a non-token rank outsider still has a chance of winning the league.

I see you always have positive things to say so answer me this what team in real life wins 14-0 also if the game is not all about making money why have they now taking off the videos for free packs

And surely they dont need to charge has much has they do for tokens its just pure greed just like the candy crush game that gets kids addicted to spend money its all a big money making scheme they don't care about these forums because they know we are all addicted now and it's not easy to delete the game

[cracicot]

Why do so many people complain about this game? Some you win, some you lose.

I keep reading about how the game is "fixed" to make you buy tokens. I do not agree. Look at these facts.

1: People who BUY tokens, win and lose matches.
2: People who DON'T BUY tokens, win and lose matches.
3: Higher quality teams, win and lose matches.
4: Lower quality teams, win and lose matches.
5: Token buyers get many injuries.
6: Non-token buyers get many injuries.

Now, doesn't this just seem evenly balanced?

I do not believe injuries are based upon how many tokens you have. I believe the recurring injuries players have, is based on how quickly you heal players. I buy a few tokens each season, but don't use them on ANY of the different packs. I currently have 229 red packs and have not used a single one of them on my players this season. I had 5 injuries in the first 7 days, but NONE since.

And just to finish. If higher quality teams were to always win, then it would no longer be a game. It would then come down to just who spends the most. THEN, it would be a fix.

the most general, vanilla facts ever. Nordeus is like a casino. the house sets it up so that it will win the majority of times.

1. people who go to the casino, win and lose money
2. experienced gamblers win and lose money
3. inexperienced gamblers win and lose money

What I am saying and many others agree on, is that Nordeus has programmed certain thresholds into the game that will cause more injuries or morale issues or whatever they want to, so they can make more money. This shouldnt be a surprise. This game was made to make the owners money, not for our enjoyment. If it were for our enjoyment, they would fix the issues that are causing most of the posts on this forum.

You are 100% correct in that the game will not allow the better team to always win. but it is walking a thin line at the moment because sometimes it is down to who spends the most. Put a Tommy in the CL bracket and you can say that 9 out of 10 times he will win that trophy. That is when it is the manager who spends the most is the manager who wins the most. Please dont be naive and believe that this game does not give serious advantages to those who spend on tokens....yes you can win without buying but it is not the norm. You have to be serious and dedicated and at the end of the day, you have to spend time, much time to do this. Time = Money. Ah, but that is another thread altogether....

The game is skewed to encourage the buying of tokens. That is fact.

[magic3]

The game is skewed to encourage the buying of tokens. That is fact.[/QUOTE]

I think that it is only skewed to higher quality teams and not to the ones who bought tokens. But how do we prove either way? Will someone who is not buying tokens ever have a better team than a token buyer? I don't think so. Maybe the one who farms tokens but doesn't Nordeus make a ton of money on the ones who farm tokens? Yes, it does. So it will be hard to prove anything but in my opinion, it's based on quality, morale etc. and not based on how much money someone spent.

[SSDD]

The game is skewed to encourage the buying of tokens. That is fact.

Spot on!
I used to play a lot on FullTilt before they got scr*wed, I won a lot of money over a period of three months, but in the end lost it in less than a day. What happened? Well... I used to play several tables at a time -3 or 4. So this particular day I got the pocket aces 7 times, went all-in preflop, had a sucker pay up each and every time and... lost all 7 times, including to hands like QTs, JJ and, most notably, the AKo. We flopped a J,8,2 rainbow... but he sucked out really hard- a Q on the turn and a T on the river. It turned out that all the online casinos had their software "fixed", so that many players could receive decent hands and stay in the game for as long as they can... so that the casinos could cash in the rake. I have never played poker online since and I find that it's a lot more difficult to fix the game in real life. Not to mention the excitement of facing your opponent face to face.
So my point is- where there's software and money to be made from this software, the outcome will always be the same- the players will lose and the house will make money out of them. If you really like the game and can afford it- buy tokens. If you really like it and can't afford tokens- just play the game and celebrate every victory over a token player like it's a title. If you don't like or enjoy the game- quit! Simple, right?
GL!

[Shadow]

Well, playing this game 27 months taught me a lot
I played a lot of games and against a lot of managers
And one big conclusion is that if you buy tokens it does not mean that you will win it all.
What is the point if you make 10Q better team and win all. It should always be a element of suprise. Even strongest make mistakes.
Yes game has some unknown factors to us. I saw team playing with DC on goal entire season but making good results. People think if he is DC he has no hands Nobody are forcing anyone to buy tokens, and when you buy tokens there is not a box that tell you Guaranteed win

At the end of a day this is just a game like any other, of course not perfect, but we all hope it would be better every next season.

[SSDD]

Cheers to a fellow Arsenal supporter!
Hopefully I'll have a reason to change the name of one of my strikers to "Higuain" tomorrow!