For lvl 17 i'd say:
4*: around 95-100M
5*: 103-104M+
Even though i have a 4* at 103, which train very quick (almost 8 training point for 1 condition).
Here's a graph of the earned training points (need 100 for one skill point) for one condition point:
I simply look at the condition before training, then after training, let's say the guy went from 95 to 85 and earned 40 training points, i know that for one condition point, he earns around 4 training points.
Obviously, you need to do this many many times to have accurate ratings.
(Earned training points)/((Condition before training - condition after training))
Long process, but this way i know which ones i should keep and which ones i should sell (or try to sell... the market is a pain since 2 seasons, only 5 mins left each time you go there -_-).


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