Rules for success

A few short rules for success:

Management
Play with legal formation, use player on right position. Preorganize your subs, penalty takers, corner takers and free kick takers. Formation, you say? There is no perfect formation, play balanced.

Support your team:
Waste some cash on tockens (makes mama Nordeus happy) and buy good players or "TANK", remove players with red cards from start 11. Heal injuries on key players only (otherwise this will for sure drain your tockens), moral boost your players and have well rested players on the pitch.

Support others (Friends)
Avoid friends on the same level, also make sure your fiends dont have friends on your level. Make your fiends support your games.

What to buy:
Useful skills on players: Free kick takers, corner takers (either foot)
Helpful skills on players: One on one scorer, one on one stopper, shadow striker, arial defence, defencive wall.
Useless skills on players: Penalty stopper, penalty kick specialist, dribbler, playmaker.

Still dont win?? Do not get greedy, you´ll never win it all! Have you ever seen a player winning all three trophies season after season? It just wont happen. Mother Nordeus share to us all.

Good luck!

Oh I almost forgot. Are you an experienced player with many trophies? Then, you will sooner or later go on setback after setback no matter how great team you have, as I told you, Nordeus share to us all.
When this occure this game only eat your money and give nothing in return.

I am Vagablue, level 17, won it all and lost it.

Overall, a pointless post. Nordeus was able to give these same advices (apart the last part) long time ago. Not that any of these were really useful.

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

Useless skills on players: Penalty stopper, penalty kick specialist, dribbler, playmaker.

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what is wrong with penalty stopper, playmaker etc. shouldnt your goal keeper be able to stop penalties?

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Originally Posted by lashawn246810

what is wrong with penalty stopper, playmaker etc. shouldnt your goal keeper be able to stop penalties?

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This is the bull**** I was referring to in the "true or false" thread, its his opinion and he doesn't have any proof that they a useless!

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

Oh I almost forgot. Are you an experienced player with many trophies? Then, you will sooner or later go on setback after setback no matter how great team you have, as I told you, Nordeus share to us all.
When this occure this game only eat your money and give nothing in return.

I am Vagablue, level 17, won it all and lost it.

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So once I have a bad season I should just quit as top 11 will just drain my tokens and I wont win anything?

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Originally Posted by herdo

This is the bull**** I was referring to in the "true or false" thread, its his opinion and he doesn't have any proof that they a useless!

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Well, I Do! -
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...-football.html

until now, I have never purchased tokens, and I really enjoy this game without buying tokens :-)

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Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree

Overall, a pointless post. Nordeus was able to give these same advices (apart the last part) long time ago. Not that any of these were really useful.

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"A long time ago" might be yesterdays news to experienced players. This post is mainly written to new players as there are so many new posts filled with anger and frustration over questionable results. And I belive that is what forum is all about, sharing experiences and hopfully help Nordeus be part of the discussion and develop the game.

When it comes to you, as an experienced player, there is probably not one post that is not pointless, as you know it already.

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Originally Posted by itayfranko

Well, I Do! -
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...-football.html

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Ive had such season my self, look at my profile pics...
My original statment was: "Have you ever seen a player winning all three trophies season after season?"
Is that season after season?
No, it is a season.

The proof is there, right infront of you.
Just go look in everyones trophy room. Look at friends, top players in leuages and cups.
Top players usually have 1 st leuage och 1 st champions and seldom a cup 1st.
Average players have a little of everything but mainly cup winners.

I urge you all to go trophy room hunting, and please come back when summun your statistics. :)

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

"A long time ago" might be yesterdays news to experienced players. This post is mainly written to new players as there are so many new posts filled with anger and frustration over questionable results. And I belive that is what forum is all about, sharing experiences and hopfully help Nordeus be part of the discussion and develop the game.

When it comes to you, as an experienced player, there is probably not one post that is not pointless, as you know it already.

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So why give new players false information, or information that is skewed to your point of view?

Playmaker and dribbler are useful SAs for the most part, but just because you cant see tangible results like a corner or freekick, doesnt mean that its useless.

Waste some cash on Tokens?!? I want what you have been smoking. I would tell new players the exact opposite - dont waste your cash buying tokens because once you do, you will feel obligated to continue buying tokens for the upkeep of your team because you dont want your money to be wasted, OR, you will get sucked into the token trap of Nor-de-ass, where they cause injuries and allow unwanted friendlies and schedule games close together so you will waste tokens and waste money.

I am all for freedom of speech, but I disagree with people giving out ****ty advice - advice that contradicts many of the posts here.

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Originally Posted by herdo

This is the bull**** I was referring to in the "true or false" thread, its his opinion and he doesn't have any proof that they a useless!

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Here is one proof of useless penalty stopper

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

Ive had such season my self, look at my profile pics...
My original statment was: "Have you ever seen a player winning all three trophies season after season?"
Is that season after season?
No, it is a season.

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what did this post have to do with itayfranko posting that he has a proof that PK stopper is a useless specialty?

Even a world class penalty stopper.

Of cause this is an opinion of mine from 17 seasons of experience. Not the universal truth. But is there any truth here, its a forum based on opinions. And I stick to my opinion.

If you still dont take my word, go buy a penalty stopper :D

Look at new post

I dont give new players fals information. I give new players part of my 17 seasons of experiences. And if my 17 seasons isnt worth mentioning all this is false.

I am curious, you are very fast responding and frequently posting here. Do you work for Nordeus?

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Originally Posted by magic3

what did this post have to do with itayfranko posting that he has a proof that PK stopper is a useless specialty?

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Look at pics

Forum is about sharing experiences and opinions. You may choose to ignore or listen to opinion. And obiously you ignore it.

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Originally Posted by cracicot

So why give new players false information, or information that is skewed to your point of view?

Playmaker and dribbler are useful SAs for the most part, but just because you cant see tangible results like a corner or freekick, doesnt mean that its useless.

Waste some cash on Tokens?!? I want what you have been smoking. I would tell new players the exact opposite - dont waste your cash buying tokens because once you do, you will feel obligated to continue buying tokens for the upkeep of your team because you dont want your money to be wasted, OR, you will get sucked into the token trap of Nor-de-ass, where they cause injuries and allow unwanted friendlies and schedule games close together so you will waste tokens and waste money.

I am all for freedom of speech, but I disagree with people giving out ****ty advice - advice that contradicts many of the posts here.

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When I stated "waste some cash on tockens and make mother Nordeus happy" I was sarcastic. I give advice from my experiences winning it all. As I mentioned there are a lot of frustration around here when players invest a lot and still loose to less skillfull teams. And my opinion is that you win some and you loose some no matter how good your team is. I dont know if it is a ****ty opinion. What I do know that is my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

I dont give new players fals information. I give new players part of my 17 seasons of experiences. And if my 17 seasons isnt worth mentioning all this is false.

I am curious, you are very fast responding and frequently posting here. Do you work for Nordeus?

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You ARE giving people false information. I dont care if you had 40 seasons under your belt, when you start giving out information like it was from the bible, then I have to say something. Lets go through this:

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

Management
Play with legal formation, use player on right position.

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Opinion. I have seen too many teams win with illegal formations, and believe me, some of them are pretty strong. But it is typically a good thing to always play a legal formation.

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

Formation, you say? There is no perfect formation, play balanced.

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Opinion. I need your definition of "balanced" as it is quite a relative term. Some like defensive formations like 4-1-4-1 since it is hard to break down, others like 3-6-1 butterfly, or 4-4-2 Narrow diamond for attack. Others will go 4-4-2 classic as it is "balanced" but it all depends on your mentality and objectives in the game. There may be no perfect formation, but there are clearly ones that are far better than the rest.

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

Support your team:
Waste some cash on tockens (makes mama Nordeus happy)

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Nothing pi$$ed me off more than this. I explained why in an earlier post in this thread...no need to rinse and repeat.

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

Make your fiends support your games.

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Please enlighten me on how to do this gracefully. Should I just blackmail them? Beat the pulp out of them so they support me?

And of course, the other reason for my attention to this thread:

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

What to buy:
Useful skills on players: Free kick takers, corner takers (either foot)
Helpful skills on players: One on one scorer, one on one stopper, shadow striker, arial defence, defencive wall.
Useless skills on players: Penalty stopper, penalty kick specialist, dribbler, playmaker.

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Freekick, corner, 1v1 scorer, shadow striker, aerial defence and defensive wall are all useful or very usefull depending on your experiences. I am sure 1v1 stopper is useful as I would rather have it on my GK than not have it, just in case it is useful.

BUT penalty stopper, penalty specialist, dribbler and playmaker are useless? Because one player posts a thread that completely justifies you posting this opinion, does not mean that it applies to every managers experience in this game. I would bet my life that there are managers that have won trophies in penalties because their GK with penalty SA stopped a penalty or two, OR, their penalty specialists came through for them and won the trophy because they scored when others didnt.

At the end of the day, I would rather have players with SAs, regardless of the usefulness or not, rather than the same player without the SA......cuz you just never know.

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

Still dont win?? Do not get greedy, you´ll never win it all! Have you ever seen a player winning all three trophies season after season? It just wont happen. Mother Nordeus share to us all.

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"Mother" Nor-de-ass does not share to us all. She gives mostly to those who buy/farm tokens and stack their teams. I do see players winning 2 or 3 trophies EVERY season. It DOES happen.

What you are saying is to not get greedy because you cant win it all? Every start of the season, I get greedy and try to win it all. EVERY SEASON. EVERY. SEASON. What you should be saying is: "Dont get upset when you dont win every trophy every season, because sometimes the NGE just doesnt want you to win. At which point, you come to this forum and post a LOL thread that the game sucks and people are cheating and you are going to stop buying tokens."

And no, I dont work for Nordeus. I am just that good. ;)

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

Even a world class penalty stopper.

Of cause this is an opinion of mine from 17 seasons of experience. Not the universal truth. But is there any truth here, its a forum based on opinions. And I stick to my opinion.

If you still dont take my word, go buy a penalty stopper :D

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I have, for the past 5 seasons. They are useless, believe me.. I KNOW and I have seen that they are only useful in penalty shoot outs which rarely happen.

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Originally Posted by dv8r

I have, for the past 5 seasons. They are useless, believe me.. I KNOW and I have seen that they are only useful in penalty shoot outs which rarely happen.

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dv8r, you are saying that they are useless outside of penalty situations, which is correct, as their SA is not supposed to be useful unless in a penalty situation.

He is saying that they are just plain useless.

@Peter, here is a tip after many years of being on various forums. Do not use sarcasm unless most members know you and your sarcastic tendencies and quote people when you are replying to them. I have no idea who you are talking to, referring to or talking about and I speak English fairly well. Imagine others. For example, I am still not clear if you think PK stopper is useful or useless bc your initial post says useless but then you argue with people who say it's useless as well.

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

When I stated "waste some cash on tockens and make mother Nordeus happy" I was sarcastic. I give advice from my experiences winning it all. As I mentioned there are a lot of frustration around here when players invest a lot and still loose to less skillfull teams. And my opinion is that you win some and you loose some no matter how good your team is. I dont know if it is a ****ty opinion. What I do know that is my opinion.

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IMO you are trying to hard to be july forth lol. Let me give you some advice on this forum, seeing as your are a "noob" here......

Regardless of how many help threads you create, how well you label them (i.e the topic header), people will sign up to this forum to ask questions that have already been covered countless times. It seems to most that it is easier to start a new topic than to use the search facility. Your best option, imo is to answer any of these queries as they come up but I guarantee there will be a point when you get bored of covering the same questions time and time again.

Its like groundhog day, except it lasts 28 days

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

Waste some cash on tockens (makes mama Nordeus happy)

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Are you a Nordeus representative? Telling us to buy "tockens"

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Originally Posted by cracicot

dv8r, you are saying that they are useless outside of penalty situations, which is correct, as their SA is not supposed to be useful unless in a penalty situation.

He is saying that they are just plain useless.

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As dv8r are saying cracicot,, panalty stoppers and acctually penalty takers are only in use on penalty shoot outs. And as they rarely occur, there is no point.

This is going downhill quickly!

And I thought Nordeus was created by a trio of guys? Mother Nordeus sounds really shifty :/

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Originally Posted by Haroon Bhatti

This is going downhill quickly!

And I thought Nordeus was created by a trio of guys? Mother Nordeus sounds really shifty :/

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or Russian. Still...... very shifty.

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

As dv8r are saying cracicot,, panalty stoppers and acctually penalty takers are only in use on penalty shoot outs. And as they rarely occur, there is no point.

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Like I said earlier, I would rather have a GK with the penalty stopper SA, than one without. Just in case......

So enough with the useless opinions. They have their uses even if they are rare. If you go to penalties, I bet you have a thought in your head that dates back to the time when you were about to buy a GK with Penalty SA, but said, "Nah, its useless, I will never use it because its too rare of a situation".....over and over and over as you lose the game on penalties.

Again, they suck when you dont need them, but when you do, they are your heros. Unless you are that guy who couldnt score with them in a penalty shootout, and his GK w/penalty stopper couldnt save his way out of the penalty shot paper bag. OUCH!

Now that is some nice discussion here. Just posting here so I get notified when someone posts here. Huehuehue.

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Originally Posted by dv8r

Are you a Nordeus representative? Telling us to buy "tockens"

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Dont you feel the sarcasm in "making mama nordeus happy"?

My experience is that best team tend to win most cups and leagues. And the only 2 ways to get great players is to "tank" or to buy tockens. If you have any anther way to build a great team I am glad hearing about it? After all Nordeus is a business, making enough money to hire José Mourinho! Someone is for sure feeding Nordeus. Mourinho doesent come for free thats for sure.

And for the record I am a player nothing else.

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Originally Posted by Haroon Bhatti

This is going downhill quickly!

And I thought Nordeus was created by a trio of guys? Mother Nordeus sounds really shifty :/

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You may be right, but as they take care of us here, they are like our mothers. :D

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

Dont you feel the sarcasm in "making mama nordeus happy"?

My experience is that best team tend to win most cups and leagues. And the only 2 ways to get great players is to "tank" or to buy tockens. If you have any anther way to build a great team I am glad hearing about it? After all Nordeus is a business, making enough money to hire José Mourinho! Someone is for sure feeding Nordeus. Mourinho doesent come for free thats for sure.

And for the record I am a player nothing else.

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you can farm tokens. There are people who have earned 500+ tokens in a season from farming..

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Originally Posted by dv8r

I have, for the past 5 seasons. They are useless, believe me.. I KNOW and I have seen that they are only useful in penalty shoot outs which rarely happen.

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Exactly, and when it finally comes down to a penalty shoot out and you loose with a "world class" (7 star) penalty stopper,like in the example on the pics. Whats the point having a penalty stopper?

Ok craciot, I give you this: if I where to choose between a penalty shoot stopper or one without any skills at the same price and same amount of tockens, you have my vote.

Basically I dont try to convince anyone but Nordeus. Penalty stopper or one on on stopper? I mean, develop the skills Nordeus. like: line goalkeeper and arial keeper or something like that. Let the skills actually make some difference!

Please enlighten me on how to do this gracefully. Should I just blackmail them? Beat the pulp out of them so they support me?

I thought you didnt care if I had 40 seasons under my belt. :D It is rather simple actually, 1) choose a lot of friends, the important thing is to find friends that support their own team. 2) when you find friends that is supporting during matches you just support them - and beleive me they will support your team to. Yuo¨¨ou never know when and there are no garantees - but statisticly the more friends you have and support - the greater are the chances that they support you -

I have found great friends here

[QUOTE=cracicot;127003]You ARE giving people false information. I dont care if you had 40 seasons under your belt, when you start giving out information like it was from the bible, then I have to say something. Lets go through this:

To win you have to have a great team with good players - and to have good players there is only two ways what I know about: "Tank" or buy tockens. I know it may not be sportsman like to buy your players but if you like winning trophys - its the way to do it. I dont understand whats false info about that?

I gave you my formula to win trophys in "Rules of success", I am sure people gladly listen to other peoples furmula to.

Vagablue

Warning: Sarcastic post.

Fortunately, Nordeus has explained today everything we need to know about special abilities and we don't have to argue or discuss which of the abilities are good or bad. Special Abilities in Top Eleven - Be a Football Manager

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Originally Posted by Peter Pirsten

"A long time ago" might be yesterdays news to experienced players. This post is mainly written to new players as there are so many new posts filled with anger and frustration over questionable results. And I belive that is what forum is all about, sharing experiences and hopfully help Nordeus be part of the discussion and develop the game.

When it comes to you, as an experienced player, there is probably not one post that is not pointless, as you know it already.

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that's exactly why this post is useless. The true marks are basic infos that even the newbie of the case would intuitively already know (don't play with ST instead of GK, don't play with health's bars completely empty, and so on) while the other ones are mere declarations based on nothing, which are there just to puzzle the newbies.

Where is the proof that said SAs are useless and others are not? As for me, they all are useful OR not, there is no such a middle way. They either affect the engine or not, it's not like the engine chooses which one to be made effective. Same goes for the second part where he declares that if you have won much, then you're bound to lose matematically.

Basically, his post is none else than a rant masked as advices, but everyone can say "use an umbrella when it rains, or you'll get soaked". Is there any newbie which will get soaked, even being it the very first rainy day of his life? :rolleyes: