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    League Match - 23

    FCB 4 - 3 Fearless

    FCB - 39.8, 3-5-2v/4-4-2ND/4-4-2 classic | Fearless - 25.8, 4-1-3-1-1/5-3-1-1/4-2-1-2


    Very close game, we thought for a moment that we lost the match but our defense stood strong and did not give the 1st draw or lose in this season in league. We never changed our formation these many times in FCB history.

    We beat this team in the away match with 3-1 and thought we gonna make it again but they proved that we underestimated them.

    We injured their DMC at 2' but no bookings for us. We got goal by Master from Carrillo by a corner at 16' but with in no time they scored a goal and equalized the score with 1-1. Opponent manager was present and changed his injured player and his formation too. No more goals were scored till half time but we injured one more player at 43' minute and opponent changed his formation again.

    Just after the half time opponents team scored one more goal at 55' and lead with 2-1 but in no time we scored another goal at 57' and equalized it with 2-2. We scored one goal just in 3 minutes of 2nd goal at 60' and got lead 1st time in the match. We scored one more goal at 69' with clear lead of 4-2.

    Just before end of the match at 86' opponent's player scored and decreased the lead to 4-3 and opponent's players attacked too much in the last moment but our defense stood strong this time and got win for us with 4-3.


    Goals: Master (16'),Pablo saint-pastourz (19', 86'), Prajongsai (55'), Carrillo (57'), Bagavac (60'), Master(69'),

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    Match Report: Toughest match we played in FCB's history. Nearly a defeat but we survived and kept our hopes to finish 26-0-0 1st time in FCB history.
    I see it's not the first time you ought to suffer that much despite the enormous Q difference. Let alone the formation's choiche, are you sure your orders are right? Troll Mou can strike, but not so many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree View Post
    I see it's not the first time you ought to suffer that much despite the enormous Q difference. Let alone the formation's choiche, are you sure your orders are right? Troll Mou can strike, but not so many times.
    I think I have used right orders ...

    these are the ones I have used for it ...

    3n-5-2v: Attacking mentality, down both flanks, own half, short passing, zonal marking, counter attack and offside trap.

    4-4-2 ND: Attacking mentality, through the middle, own half, short passing, zonal.

    and as your suggestions

    4-4-2 classic: Attacking mentality, through the middle, own half, mixed passing, zonal. Red arrows on ST,2 MCs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FCB3 View Post
    I think I have used right orders ...

    these are the ones I have used for it ...

    3n-5-2v: Attacking mentality, down both flanks, own half, short passing, zonal marking, counter attack and offside trap.

    4-4-2 ND: Attacking mentality, through the middle, own half, short passing, zonal.

    and as your suggestions

    4-4-2 classic: Attacking mentality, through the middle, own half, mixed passing, zonal. Red arrows on ST,2 MCs.
    Your 4-4-2 orders look interesting, I usually play with this system over the wings.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Rath View Post
    Your 4-4-2 orders look interesting, I usually play with this system over the wings.
    it was suggested by Morgan to Reddeviljohn to beat 5-2-1-2 X style and I tried that ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FCB3 View Post
    I think I have used right orders ...

    these are the ones I have used for it ...

    3n-5-2v: Attacking mentality, down both flanks, own half, short passing, zonal marking, counter attack and offside trap.

    4-4-2 ND: Attacking mentality, through the middle, own half, short passing, zonal.

    and as your suggestions

    4-4-2 classic: Attacking mentality, through the middle, own half, mixed passing, zonal. Red arrows on ST,2 MCs.
    First problem is the mentality: no need to be offensive set, and truet me it doesnt lift your goal scored BUT, surely lift goals taken. Own half pressing in the 3-5-2 V is ok using a dmc without arrows. But against teams using wingers (Ams or Ms) use full pitch to close their wings and press on.

    Counter and offside should NEVER be used: i dont get what you wrote but seems like you use them on an offensive setup, which is a big NO-NO.
    Red arrow on st should only be used when aying defensively/counter attack setups. But the 4-4-2 centerfolded is somethin i'm pretty proud of having set up, so good boy on using it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree View Post
    First problem is the mentality: no need to be offensive set, and truet me it doesnt lift your goal scored BUT, surely lift goals taken. Own half pressing in the 3-5-2 V is ok using a dmc without arrows. But against teams using wingers (Ams or Ms) use full pitch to close their wings and press on.

    Counter and offside should NEVER be used: i dont get what you wrote but seems like you use them on an offensive setup, which is a big NO-NO.
    Red arrow on st should only be used when aying defensively/counter attack setups. But the 4-4-2 centerfolded is somethin i'm pretty proud of having set up, so good boy on using it
    Thanks for the suggestions

    so In attacking we can not use red arrow on ST and is whole press is for only 3-5-2v or can we use whole press while we attacking down the flanks

    when we have to use own-half and whole pitch

    when we have to use counter attacks and offside trap ... I read that off side trap can be used if your defenders are fast enough ...isn't it ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FCB3 View Post
    Thanks for the suggestions

    1)so In attacking we can not use red arrow on ST and is whole press is for only 3-5-2v or can we use whole press while we attacking down the flanks

    2)when we have to use own-half and whole pitch

    3)when we have to use counter attacks and offside trap ... I read that off side trap can be used if your defenders are fast enough ...isn't it ?
    1)you shouldnt use attacking mentality unless you're in a pinch at some point during a match. Alwais use normal mentality, unless you gotta recover some goal difference. Attacking ment doesnt make you score more, but DOES make you take more. Expecially counters.
    Arrows should be used to spot the opponent's weaknesses: ie if he uses a 3n-5-2 flat, red arrows on amr aml spot his lack there. A red arrow on striker should be used ONLY when you play defensive style, long passing and own half pitch, with counters on. Thats because if you noticed diring counters 80% of times who has a red arrow gets the ball. So red arroing your st while defending will most likely get him the ball on a counter instead of any other junk.

    2) i alwais played full pitch pressing bu lately i noticed half works well if you field a DMC or dmr/dml. Although, when opponents has counters for them i switch to full pitch. IE: i use 3n-1-4-2 VS his 3-5-2 V: his aml/amr can push my DMC to too much work so i swith to whole pitch pressing to cut them out. On the opposite, using a dmr/dmc sistem against a opponent with a AMC could press too muchyour own half, hence you go full pitch.
    Also, i usually prefer full pitch at home, while own half playing away, as to take less counters.

    3)that's the problem of your team spot on: how can an offensive team play counter? It's like using a knife which can't cut.
    OFFSIDE can be used when the opponent uses a flat display (no amc amr aml) and when your defenders are stronger then his attacking players, but its utility is not yet to be noticed. Never use it until Nordeus tweaks it.

    COUNTERS are meant for a ultra defensive play: you press own half against someone using an offensive setup, waiting to counter him. An offensive team isnt supposed to even counter since if it's you making the game there's no chanche you would start a counter with a long ball from YOUR defense. Just try figure it, it's like Barca would play 11 men in defense and long pass on counters. Doesnt match really.
    Use counters when you wanna keep a score, or when your opponent is losing by 2+ goals and gets auper offensive in te second half. But remember to use a normal or defensive mentality or else you'll play confusedly.

    In the end your orders should be:
    3-5-2V
    -normal mentality
    -own half pressing
    -through flanks
    -mixed passing
    -normal tackle
    -NO offside, NO counter

    4-4-2:
    -normal mentality
    -full pitch pressing
    -middle/flanks on your choiche
    -mixed passing
    -normal tackle
    -no counter, no offside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree View Post
    1)you shouldnt use attacking mentality unless you're in a pinch at some point during a match. Alwais use normal mentality, unless you gotta recover some goal difference. Attacking ment doesnt make you score more, but DOES make you take more. Expecially counters.
    Arrows should be used to spot the opponent's weaknesses: ie if he uses a 3n-5-2 flat, red arrows on amr aml spot his lack there. A red arrow on striker should be used ONLY when you play defensive style, long passing and own half pitch, with counters on. Thats because if you noticed diring counters 80% of times who has a red arrow gets the ball. So red arroing your st while defending will most likely get him the ball on a counter instead of any other junk.

    2) i alwais played full pitch pressing bu lately i noticed half works well if you field a DMC or dmr/dml. Although, when opponents has counters for them i switch to full pitch. IE: i use 3n-1-4-2 VS his 3-5-2 V: his aml/amr can push my DMC to too much work so i swith to whole pitch pressing to cut them out. On the opposite, using a dmr/dmc sistem against a opponent with a AMC could press too muchyour own half, hence you go full pitch.
    Also, i usually prefer full pitch at home, while own half playing away, as to take less counters.

    3)that's the problem of your team spot on: how can an offensive team play counter? It's like using a knife which can't cut.
    OFFSIDE can be used when the opponent uses a flat display (no amc amr aml) and when your defenders are stronger then his attacking players, but its utility is not yet to be noticed. Never use it until Nordeus tweaks it.

    COUNTERS are meant for a ultra defensive play: you press own half against someone using an offensive setup, waiting to counter him. An offensive team isnt supposed to even counter since if it's you making the game there's no chanche you would start a counter with a long ball from YOUR defense. Just try figure it, it's like Barca would play 11 men in defense and long pass on counters. Doesnt match really.
    Use counters when you wanna keep a score, or when your opponent is losing by 2+ goals and gets auper offensive in te second half. But remember to use a normal or defensive mentality or else you'll play confusedly.

    In the end your orders should be:
    3-5-2V
    -normal mentality
    -own half pressing
    -through flanks
    -mixed passing
    -normal tackle
    -NO offside, NO counter

    4-4-2:
    -normal mentality
    -full pitch pressing
    -middle/flanks on your choiche
    -mixed passing
    -normal tackle
    -no counter, no offside.
    you taught me so much in orders...previously you taught me how to select the Fast trainers and now this one ... Thank you very much ...
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