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    Seems like most do not like the randomness of the NGE. Right ?? because your team keeps losing to rubbish teams. The game should be so predictable right ?? No that would be boring and we would be complaining god the game is so predictable .

    Sport is unpredictable !!! especially soccer ( football ) , or we would all be rich winning the pools every week .

    The English Premier League starts next week !! maybe someone from England can post the full fixture list in a new post and we can all give our predictions including win lose or draw and the score ???

    Lets see how predictable it is !!!

    I'm not denying there are some bad results on here sure < all I'm saying is maybe some (me included) like the unpredictability of it all keeps me on my toes as a manager (does that make me a troll ) ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener View Post
    Seems like most do not like the randomness of the NGE. Right ?? because your team keeps losing to rubbish teams. The game should be so predictable right ?? No that would be boring and we would be complaining god the game is so predictable .

    Sport is unpredictable !!! especially soccer ( football ) , or we would all be rich winning the pools every week .

    The English Premier League starts next week !! maybe someone from England can post the full fixture list in a new post and we can all give our predictions including win lose or draw and the score ???

    Lets see how predictable it is !!!

    I'm not denying there are some bad results on here sure < all I'm saying is maybe some (me included) like the unpredictability of it all keeps me on my toes as a manager (does that make me a troll ) ?
    Yep when Manchester city kick off with Aguero in goal and Hart up front or play 5 in defense with 5 defensive midfielders then you can compare the 2. If you compare this game to real life football plesase give the appropriate examples not just football in general. The problem is the match engine cannot comprend what an illegal formation is and penalise the team appropriately when one is selected. It cannot handle it when a team goes down to 8 men and leaves gaping holes in the formation due to no manager or substitute instructions so it counteracts by turning the DRs and DLs into supermen. When you defensive gets skinned by the DC who plays a blinding cross behind the defence to the DR makes you wonder why we do not see Terry running down the wings more often.

    The match engine is to be blamed it is not complex enough to manage all the variables and will give out a result based on many hard encoded factors. What happens in the game will have little or no effect or what the predetermined calculation will be. There may be a little randomness to the calculation but not much. I do little on tactics and normally just change the team because of injuries the enjoyment for me is the trading and developing of players. The gaming side has no interest to me at all because i have little control over that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie1001 View Post
    Yep when Manchester city kick off with Aguero in goal and Hart up front or play 5 in defense with 5 defensive midfielders then you can compare the 2. If you compare this game to real life football plesase give the appropriate examples not just football in general. The problem is the match engine cannot comprend what an illegal formation is and penalise the team appropriately when one is selected. It cannot handle it when a team goes down to 8 men and leaves gaping holes in the formation due to no manager or substitute instructions so it counteracts by turning the DRs and DLs into supermen. When you defensive gets skinned by the DC who plays a blinding cross behind the defence to the DR makes you wonder why we do not see Terry running down the wings more often.

    The match engine is to be blamed it is not complex enough to manage all the variables and will give out a result based on many hard encoded factors. What happens in the game will have little or no effect or what the predetermined calculation will be. There may be a little randomness to the calculation but not much. I do little on tactics and normally just change the team because of injuries the enjoyment for me is the trading and developing of players. The gaming side has no interest to me at all because i have little control over that.
    again proving my point thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener View Post
    again proving my point thank you
    that comment prooves our point, not yours. just to let you know.
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    Even if it is the game that makes you lose ? regardless of what the manager does ( I still don't believe that ) . Surely the fun is to turn tht around in your favour ? Seems when I read these types of posts they have a familiar theme . didnt change anything from when winning played same formation , same players etc. tactics don't matter. It dosnt happen to Man Utd . Please it's a soccer management game, that gives you the ability to change most things in your team !!! .
    It's still a pass time game not a buy the best quality team win all job done game ( If it was that would be boring ) . So a season can go wrong and all the poor teams beat you, thats the time to get smart and get to work changing things surely ??? . You dont have to spend money to enjoy it , seems too many players just expect to win because they have better quality players ,
    , and the last I looked these top teams like Man Utd , Barcelona etc. Do not play the same players week in week out nor the same formations , nor copy the opponents formation . Unless you are oon the top tear of this game you would be better off comparing your team to non league teams? sunday league teams at 1st then very slowly work yourself up to lets say Accrington Stanley ( who are they ) .
    Seriously the game is fun without winning trying to turn it round this happens a lot in real football too just ask Portsmouth for example. if the manager dosnt do anything they get sacked unlike this game we carnt ( shame in some cases) .
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlTaut View Post
    that comment prooves our point, not yours. just to let you know.
    Already forgot what you wrote?
    Yes my point that people compare their teams too highly like Man City Not sunday league teams unless they are in the top tear of the football pyramid . You really dont want to or are not intelligent enough to understand my point , or maybe just maybe because i'm not sure what country your from . just maybe you dont have sunday league there ???????
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie1001 View Post
    Yep when Manchester city kick off with Aguero in goal and Hart up front or play 5 in defense with 5 defensive midfielders then you can compare the 2. If you compare this game to real life football plesase give the appropriate examples not just football in general. The problem is the match engine cannot comprend what an illegal formation is and penalise the team appropriately when one is selected. It cannot handle it when a team goes down to 8 men and leaves gaping holes in the formation due to no manager or substitute instructions so it counteracts by turning the DRs and DLs into supermen. When you defensive gets skinned by the DC who plays a blinding cross behind the defence to the DR makes you wonder why we do not see Terry running down the wings more often.

    The match engine is to be blamed it is not complex enough to manage all the variables and will give out a result based on many hard encoded factors. What happens in the game will have little or no effect or what the predetermined calculation will be. There may be a little randomness to the calculation but not much. I do little on tactics and normally just change the team because of injuries the enjoyment for me is the trading and developing of players. The gaming side has no interest to me at all because i have little control over that.
    well said! people are making this game more complicated than it actually is, and Norduus is laughing all the way to the bank. the t11 fanboys are quite disillusioned when you point out the cracks in this games armor, so watch out for trolls!

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    Quote Originally Posted by foulmouthbiotch View Post
    well said! people are making this game more complicated than it actually is, and Norduus is laughing all the way to the bank. the t11 fanboys are quite disillusioned when you point out the cracks in this games armor, so watch out for trolls!
    exactly, people make this game more complicated than what it is. The real thing is that this is just a Bull**** game. A bad product (only few pros, like team customization, make it survive). But apparently many people still are thinking that managing here is influential. Sadly that the facts show the contrary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlTaut View Post
    exactly, people make this game more complicated than what it is. The real thing is that this is just a Bull**** game. A bad product (only few pros, like team customization, make it survive). But apparently many people still are thinking that managing here is influential. Sadly that the facts show the contrary.
    For me... Games need to last longer than 8 minutes.

    PvP is another reason why it survives although most of the time your playing bots/inactive/semi-active teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by July Fourth View Post
    For me... Games need to last longer than 8 minutes.

    PvP is another reason why it survives although most of the time your playing bots/inactive/semi-active teams.
    yeah, maybe 15 minutes, but first Nordeus should improve the NGE. I'm not asking for something complex, but a bit of logic is needed
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlTaut View Post
    yeah, maybe 15 minutes, but first Nordeus should improve the NGE. I'm not asking for something complex, but a bit of logic is needed
    We build our teams, pay loads of tokens and we only see our players in action for a short period of time via text commentary. There's plenty of time during our days and of course I'd like T11 to move to the next level and thats create a in-game feel that's close to CM03/04. Your right NGE sucks, churning out all sorts of scores and injuries.

    Injury rate needs to be reduced by around 25% I feel. NGE needs tinkered with so that illegal formations and teams playing many players OOP don't win or draw games.
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