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    Seems like most do not like the randomness of the NGE. Right ?? because your team keeps losing to rubbish teams. The game should be so predictable right ?? No that would be boring and we would be complaining god the game is so predictable .

    Sport is unpredictable !!! especially soccer ( football ) , or we would all be rich winning the pools every week .

    The English Premier League starts next week !! maybe someone from England can post the full fixture list in a new post and we can all give our predictions including win lose or draw and the score ???

    Lets see how predictable it is !!!

    I'm not denying there are some bad results on here sure < all I'm saying is maybe some (me included) like the unpredictability of it all keeps me on my toes as a manager (does that make me a troll ) ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener View Post
    Seems like most do not like the randomness of the NGE. Right ?? because your team keeps losing to rubbish teams. The game should be so predictable right ?? No that would be boring and we would be complaining god the game is so predictable .

    Sport is unpredictable !!! especially soccer ( football ) , or we would all be rich winning the pools every week .

    The English Premier League starts next week !! maybe someone from England can post the full fixture list in a new post and we can all give our predictions including win lose or draw and the score ???

    Lets see how predictable it is !!!

    I'm not denying there are some bad results on here sure < all I'm saying is maybe some (me included) like the unpredictability of it all keeps me on my toes as a manager (does that make me a troll ) ?
    first we are talking about why people leaves, not about why you are here enjoying the game.
    2nd: the problem is not that weaker teams sometimes win against higher qualities ones. the problem is that teams without managers, playing illegal, with out of position players, win games or even draw. HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS??
    3rd: you really didnt deny about bad results happening? strange, you wrote this
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    Not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing here apart from you drew away from home 2-2 and his goalkeeper was in a striker position and his defender was in goal . So he suffered possession for out of place players . You have slightly better quality than him, but an away draw in the league is not a bad result is it ?????. I can remember the good old days when a keeper got injured and a striker went in goal he would get a great ovation every time he touched the ball.
    There are more things than just quality and possession when playing this game
    4th: so basicly you like randomness.... so why are you managing a team if everything you do does not have any influence over results???
    5th: Again you are comparing real life with top11. and you are also doing it wrong. Really sport is so unpredictable?? Yeah you're right. Bolt may lose against me, if i decide to challenge him in a 100m race. Cardiff City won every premier league championship it took part. Rich club not always win. look at it, PSG arrived last in France League. Juventus finished mid table in Italy. Chelsea and City were close to relegation. Real Madrid and Barca failed to get CL spot....What about removing salami slices from your eyes?
    6th: If you are not a troll then....
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlTaut View Post
    first we are talking about why people leaves, not about why you are here enjoying the game.
    2nd: the problem is not that weaker teams sometimes win against higher qualities ones. the problem is that teams without managers, playing illegal, with out of position players, win games or even draw. HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS??
    3rd: you really didnt deny about bad results happening? strange, you wrote this

    4th: so basicly you like randomness.... so why are you managing a team if everything you do does not have any influence over results???
    5th: Again you are comparing real life with top11. and you are also doing it wrong. Really sport is so unpredictable?? Yeah you're right. Bolt may lose against me, if i decide to challenge him in a 100m race. Cardiff City won every premier league championship it took part. Rich club not always win. look at it, PSG arrived last in France League. Juventus finished mid table in Italy. Chelsea and City were close to relegation. Real Madrid and Barca failed to get CL spot....What about removing salami slices from your eyes?
    6th: If you are not a troll then....
    1st - You are talking about why people leave, many others are talking about other things. It's called engaging in a conversation
    2nd - it happens in real life, but you don't seem to either want to accept or understand that.
    3rd - he did write that
    4th - the op never said that, you said it, I'm confident that the op has had influence over his teams performance
    5th - there are many, many examples in real life where the result was not as predicted
    6th - the op is not a troll, although you are acting more like one......
    7th - there is no 7th point
    8th - please refer to point 7
    9th - please refer to point 7 & 8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener View Post
    Seems like most do not like the randomness of the NGE. Right ?? because your team keeps losing to rubbish teams. The game should be so predictable right ?? No that would be boring and we would be complaining god the game is so predictable .

    Sport is unpredictable !!! especially soccer ( football ) , or we would all be rich winning the pools every week .

    The English Premier League starts next week !! maybe someone from England can post the full fixture list in a new post and we can all give our predictions including win lose or draw and the score ???

    Lets see how predictable it is !!!

    I'm not denying there are some bad results on here sure < all I'm saying is maybe some (me included) like the unpredictability of it all keeps me on my toes as a manager (does that make me a troll ) ?
    Yep when Manchester city kick off with Aguero in goal and Hart up front or play 5 in defense with 5 defensive midfielders then you can compare the 2. If you compare this game to real life football plesase give the appropriate examples not just football in general. The problem is the match engine cannot comprend what an illegal formation is and penalise the team appropriately when one is selected. It cannot handle it when a team goes down to 8 men and leaves gaping holes in the formation due to no manager or substitute instructions so it counteracts by turning the DRs and DLs into supermen. When you defensive gets skinned by the DC who plays a blinding cross behind the defence to the DR makes you wonder why we do not see Terry running down the wings more often.

    The match engine is to be blamed it is not complex enough to manage all the variables and will give out a result based on many hard encoded factors. What happens in the game will have little or no effect or what the predetermined calculation will be. There may be a little randomness to the calculation but not much. I do little on tactics and normally just change the team because of injuries the enjoyment for me is the trading and developing of players. The gaming side has no interest to me at all because i have little control over that.
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    speaking about things not linked with the thread means going OT.
    about the 2nd point i never saw it happening in real life.

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    Another one for you guys....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlTaut View Post

    Another one for you guys....
    You should add that his Q wasnt one where an illegal stronger team beats it anyways. My AVG Q is 62 while his is 56. On top of that, all my players were out of role and under 30% fitness. Also, we fielded young 5* instead of the full 7* team to let them gain exp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie1001 View Post
    Yep when Manchester city kick off with Aguero in goal and Hart up front or play 5 in defense with 5 defensive midfielders then you can compare the 2. If you compare this game to real life football plesase give the appropriate examples not just football in general. The problem is the match engine cannot comprend what an illegal formation is and penalise the team appropriately when one is selected. It cannot handle it when a team goes down to 8 men and leaves gaping holes in the formation due to no manager or substitute instructions so it counteracts by turning the DRs and DLs into supermen. When you defensive gets skinned by the DC who plays a blinding cross behind the defence to the DR makes you wonder why we do not see Terry running down the wings more often.

    The match engine is to be blamed it is not complex enough to manage all the variables and will give out a result based on many hard encoded factors. What happens in the game will have little or no effect or what the predetermined calculation will be. There may be a little randomness to the calculation but not much. I do little on tactics and normally just change the team because of injuries the enjoyment for me is the trading and developing of players. The gaming side has no interest to me at all because i have little control over that.
    again proving my point thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie1001 View Post
    Yep when Manchester city kick off with Aguero in goal and Hart up front or play 5 in defense with 5 defensive midfielders then you can compare the 2. If you compare this game to real life football plesase give the appropriate examples not just football in general. The problem is the match engine cannot comprend what an illegal formation is and penalise the team appropriately when one is selected. It cannot handle it when a team goes down to 8 men and leaves gaping holes in the formation due to no manager or substitute instructions so it counteracts by turning the DRs and DLs into supermen. When you defensive gets skinned by the DC who plays a blinding cross behind the defence to the DR makes you wonder why we do not see Terry running down the wings more often.

    The match engine is to be blamed it is not complex enough to manage all the variables and will give out a result based on many hard encoded factors. What happens in the game will have little or no effect or what the predetermined calculation will be. There may be a little randomness to the calculation but not much. I do little on tactics and normally just change the team because of injuries the enjoyment for me is the trading and developing of players. The gaming side has no interest to me at all because i have little control over that.
    well said! people are making this game more complicated than it actually is, and Norduus is laughing all the way to the bank. the t11 fanboys are quite disillusioned when you point out the cracks in this games armor, so watch out for trolls!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener View Post
    again proving my point thank you
    that comment prooves our point, not yours. just to let you know.
    Already forgot what you wrote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener View Post
    Even if it is the game that makes you lose ? regardless of what the manager does ( I still don't believe that ) . Surely the fun is to turn tht around in your favour ? Seems when I read these types of posts they have a familiar theme . didnt change anything from when winning played same formation , same players etc. tactics don't matter. It dosnt happen to Man Utd . Please it's a soccer management game, that gives you the ability to change most things in your team !!! .
    It's still a pass time game not a buy the best quality team win all job done game ( If it was that would be boring ) . So a season can go wrong and all the poor teams beat you, thats the time to get smart and get to work changing things surely ??? . You dont have to spend money to enjoy it , seems too many players just expect to win because they have better quality players ,
    , and the last I looked these top teams like Man Utd , Barcelona etc. Do not play the same players week in week out nor the same formations , nor copy the opponents formation . Unless you are oon the top tear of this game you would be better off comparing your team to non league teams? sunday league teams at 1st then very slowly work yourself up to lets say Accrington Stanley ( who are they ) .
    Seriously the game is fun without winning trying to turn it round this happens a lot in real football too just ask Portsmouth for example. if the manager dosnt do anything they get sacked unlike this game we carnt ( shame in some cases) .
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