Goodbye

I new there was a reason why i decided to leave this game in the first place - after trying a second time i came to the same conclusion, how does a team beat you when your playing exactly the same formation, the other person does not watch the game and you have full possession and your team is far excess better than the other team.

Why buy and spend tokens increasing and making your team better to get the edge on the other players, its pointless. The designers of this game are not interested, all they are after is your money, My friends have come to the same conclusion and now refuse to play. as so many other players. the word is gradually spreading.

money does not mean result`s, tactic`s do

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Originally Posted by spornybol

money does not mean result`s, tactic`s do

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Rubbish. This game isn't advanced enough for tactics to be that influential.


Almost all of it is designed to force people to buy tokens. If i'm improving the medical facilities and the quality of the training and stadium pitch, why are injuries the same frequency and of increasing length ?

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Originally Posted by Barnes10

Rubbish. This game isn't advanced enough for tactics to be that influential.


Almost all of it is designed to force people to buy tokens. If i'm improving the medical facilities and the quality of the training and stadium pitch, why are injuries the same frequency and of increasing length ?

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Tactics are influential to the game. It's not advanced but it's definitely not one-dimensional. What would be the point if the best team always won?

Seriously, no one cares you playing or quiting. Losing is part of the game.

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Originally Posted by Barnes10

Rubbish. This game isn't advanced enough for tactics to be that influential.


Almost all of it is designed to force people to buy tokens. If i'm improving the medical facilities and the quality of the training and stadium pitch, why are injuries the same frequency and of increasing length ?

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Yuppers! agree 1000% I have a lvl 7 infirmary and still get a ton of injuries over 5 days - gone are the days of papercuts and toe-stubbings. its all broken legs and hamstring strain grade 3....what the hell is going on with this game? Are all the games played in the prison yard? Waiting for Burt Reynolds and Sylvester Stallone to show up.

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Originally Posted by dv8r

Tactics are influential to the game. It's not advanced but it's definitely not one-dimensional. What would be the point if the best team always won?

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How about the best team just winning MOST of the time? How about that? No? oh yeah, this is T11, the best team wins only some of the time.

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Originally Posted by sallycantskate

Seriously, no one cares you playing or quiting. Losing is part of the game.

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Losing is only part of the game for one of two teams. And I care who plays or quits. It shows how long this game will survive and I love to watch a sinking ship as long as I have front row seats.

Even if it is the game that makes you lose ? regardless of what the manager does ( I still don't believe that ) . Surely the fun is to turn tht around in your favour ? Seems when I read these types of posts they have a familiar theme . didnt change anything from when winning played same formation , same players etc. tactics don't matter. It dosnt happen to Man Utd . Please it's a soccer management game, that gives you the ability to change most things in your team !!! .
It's still a pass time game not a buy the best quality team win all job done game ( If it was that would be boring ) . So a season can go wrong and all the poor teams beat you, thats the time to get smart and get to work changing things surely ??? . You dont have to spend money to enjoy it , seems too many players just expect to win because they have better quality players ,
, and the last I looked these top teams like Man Utd , Barcelona etc. Do not play the same players week in week out nor the same formations , nor copy the opponents formation . Unless you are oon the top tear of this game you would be better off comparing your team to non league teams? sunday league teams at 1st then very slowly work yourself up to lets say Accrington Stanley ( who are they ) .
Seriously the game is fun without winning trying to turn it round this happens a lot in real football too just ask Portsmouth for example. if the manager dosnt do anything they get sacked unlike this game we carnt ( shame in some cases) . anyway just my thoughts try having fun without spending money buddy, no need to leave because your not winning .

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Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener

Even if it is the game that makes you lose ? regardless of what the manager does ( I still don't believe that ) . Surely the fun is to turn tht around in your favour ? Seems when I read these types of posts they have a familiar theme . didnt change anything from when winning played same formation , same players etc. tactics don't matter. It dosnt happen to Man Utd . Please it's a soccer management game, that gives you the ability to change most things in your team !!! .
It's still a pass time game not a buy the best quality team win all job done game ( If it was that would be boring ) . So a season can go wrong and all the poor teams beat you, thats the time to get smart and get to work changing things surely ??? . You dont have to spend money to enjoy it , seems too many players just expect to win because they have better quality players ,
, and the last I looked these top teams like Man Utd , Barcelona etc. Do not play the same players week in week out nor the same formations , nor copy the opponents formation . Unless you are oon the top tear of this game you would be better off comparing your team to non league teams? sunday league teams at 1st then very slowly work yourself up to lets say Accrington Stanley ( who are they ) .
Seriously the game is fun without winning trying to turn it round this happens a lot in real football too just ask Portsmouth for example. if the manager dosnt do anything they get sacked unlike this game we carnt ( shame in some cases) . anyway just my thoughts try having fun without spending money buddy, no need to leave because your not winning .

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How about stopping to compare the real world with this game? This game for sure can provide some fun, but it does so only because of the team customization. The NGE is rubbish. Full 1-2 stars teams with all players out of position winning games against full 5 stars teams with manager there. St put on GK position that are getting 8-9 rating. teams with illegal formations capable to win against stronger teams with manager and right tactic.... should i go forward? cmon open your eyes.... if it wasnt for team customization i wouldnt be here for sure

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Originally Posted by CarlTaut

How about stopping to compare the real world with this game? This game for sure can provide some fun, but it does so only because of the team customization. The NGE is rubbish. Full 1-2 stars teams with all players out of position winning games against full 5 stars teams with manager there. St put on GK position that are getting 8-9 rating. teams with illegal formations capable to win against stronger teams with manager and right tactic.... should i go forward? cmon open your eyes.... if it wasnt for team customization i wouldnt be here for sure

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I'm sorry I thought I did !!! the real world unless you are on the top level of this game is the sunday league where players dont turn up for hangover, arrested the night before , have injuries like Carnt be bothered to play so have a bad gut. . You've been there right ???? I could go on and on .every one seems to think they are barcelona and so easy to blame the NGE whatever that means , It was my opinion . You tell me to open my eyes ?? really its a free facebook game !!!!!! how are mine shut ????? your the one blaming the game not me Thats like telling me my cow dosnt moo on Farmville !!!! seriously I was just saying the fun is not necessarily in the winning

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Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener

I'm sorry I thought I did !!! the real world unless you are on the top level of this game is the sunday league where players dont turn up for hangover, arrested the night before , have injuries like Carnt be bothered to play so have a bad gut. . You've been there right ???? I could go on and on .every one seems to think they are barcelona and so easy to blame the NGE whatever that means , It was my opinion . You tell me to open my eyes ?? really its a free facebook game !!!!!! how are mine shut ????? your the one blaming the game not me Thats like telling me my cow dosnt moo on Farmville !!!! seriously I was just saying the fun is not necessarily in the winning

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You were comparing real world with this game... dont bother how you are trying to turn your comment...

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Originally Posted by CarlTaut

You were comparing real world with this game... dont bother how you are trying to turn your comment...

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I was for sure !! but your grammer confused me. I never tried to turn my comment why would I it was my opinion

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Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener

Even if it is the game that makes you lose ? regardless of what the manager does ( I still don't believe that ) . Surely the fun is to turn tht around in your favour ? Seems when I read these types of posts they have a familiar theme . didnt change anythi..

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Better you play other game that as you think fairness. ive heard theres one game that that point results depends on real fbl value per players. so you wont argue bout that. if you dont mind.. :p

you know, i thought my comment was clear enough.... but maybe i'm wrong. I'm not a native english speaker.... anyway, since maybe i wasnt clear, i repeat my thought.

You said people to stop complain about low qualities teams winning against higher ones. You justify this comparing real world results to the results of Nordeus engine. Then you say that top11 it's still a fb game, we shouldnt expect too much. the conclusion you bring is: play for fun, without spend money.

here is my answer. 1) most of the people here complain for strange results, like the ones i wrote on my 1st comment. So not only low qualities teams winning against higher qualities, but instead low quality teams without any managers controlling them, or with players out of position or with illegal formation. 2) you admit this game just a fb game. then why do you compare real world football with top11? 3) you accused me of being there, with a Barca/Man Utd team, expecting to win every game. FALSE, never spent money. 4) Your conclusion is right. 5) Before arguing against people not thinking the game is good enough you should play for at least 5-6 season still.

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Originally Posted by CarlTaut

you know, i thought my comment was clear enough.... but maybe i'm wrong. I'm not a native english speaker.... anyway, since maybe i wasnt clear, i repeat my thought.

You said people to stop complain about low qualities teams winning against higher ones. You justify this comparing real world results to the results of Nordeus engine. Then you say that top11 it's still a fb game, we shouldnt expect too much. the conclusion you bring is: play for fun, without spend money.

here is my answer. 1) most of the people here complain for strange results, like the ones i wrote on my 1st comment. So not only low qualities teams winning against higher qualities, but instead low quality teams without any managers controlling them, or with players out of position or with illegal formation. 2) you admit this game just a fb game. then why do you compare real world football with top11? 3) you accused me of being there, with a Barca/Man Utd team, expecting to win every game. FALSE, never spent money. 4) Your conclusion is right. 5) Before arguing against people not thinking the game is good enough you should play for at least 5-6 season still.

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My reason to compare real world football with this game was a call for more realistic comparison !!!!! Ie sunday League instead of Man utd bacelona where the 8 players that manage to turn up without a manager can and do win games .. I dont remember arguing just passing my oppinion . I believe even though I havnt played for 5-6 seasons I am entitled to one ! Am I not ????

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Originally Posted by dann02

Better you play other game that as you think fairness. ive heard theres one game that that point results depends on real fbl value per players. so you wont argue bout that. if you dont mind.. :p

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I'm sorry but as you quoted me I read this three times and still dont know what your are trying to say,

There is a point to the original comment but it seems to be lost in all the rest of the pish.

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Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener

My reason to compare real world football with this game was a call for more realistic comparison !!!!! Ie sunday League instead of Man utd bacelona where the 8 players that manage to turn up without a manager can and do win games .. I dont remember arguing just passing my oppinion . I believe even though I havnt played for 5-6 seasons I am entitled to one ! Am I not ????

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you are free to say what you want...but mine was a suggestion. who speaks without knowing tell most of the times stupid things. Your comment, honestly, is stupid. You keep comparing real world to this game...so i will do my own comparison. Did you see Manchester Utd with Rooney as Gk and Nani as center back, without Neville on the bench coaching, winning against Chelsea?

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Originally Posted by CarlTaut

you are free to say what you want...but mine was a suggestion. who speaks without knowing tell most of the times stupid things. Your comment, honestly, is stupid. You keep comparing real world to this game...so i will do my own comparison. Did you see Manchester Utd with Rooney as Gk and Nani as center back, without Neville on the bench coaching, winning against Chelsea?

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really ???? lets stop this your missing my point so much ( IN Fact proving it at the same time ) I have seen sunday league sides with the fat overweight striker and someones child in goal and won see ????that type of real football . Too many compare the level they are on in this game to Chelsea Man UTD just as you did . the OP said he will quit because he carnt win . I merely pointed out there is still fun to have without winning its not the be all and end all !!! see my point ???? NO didnt think so

Dont you think to loose against a way weaker team playing the same ticktacks IN A GAME is a little bit unrealistic.??

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Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener

really ???? lets stop this your missing my point so much ( IN Fact proving it at the same time ) I have seen sunday league sides with the fat overweight striker and someones child in goal and won see ????that type of real football . Too many compare the level they are on in this game to Chelsea Man UTD just as you did . the OP said he will quit because he carnt win . I merely pointed out there is still fun to have without winning its not the be all and end all !!! see my point ???? NO didnt think so

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No, i'm not comparing my level to Man Utd, you were the only one comparing this game to real world. and number 2, NO, no one gets your point.... i wont go forward neither. Soon you will understand that people leaves because of teams without managers and players out of position winning against strongers side, not because just losing.

Why was this thread allowed to become a big deal with the OP only having 17 forum posts? I'd understand if it was one of the regulars here that had 1700 posts.

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Originally Posted by CarlTaut

No, i'm not comparing my level to Man Utd, you were the only one comparing this game to real world. and number 2, NO, no one gets your point.... i wont go forward neither. Soon you will understand that people leaves because of teams without managers and players out of position winning against strongers side, not because just losing.

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Woooowooooo this is the point wooooowoooo heres the problem.

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Originally Posted by July Fourth

Why was this thread allowed to become a big deal with the OP only having 17 forum posts? I'd understand if it was one of the regulars here that had 1700 posts.

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dont see why only threads from people with many posts should become big deal...

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Originally Posted by CarlTaut

dont see why only threads from people with many posts should become big deal...

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I'll leave the forum soon, gonna happen one day.

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Originally Posted by July Fourth

I'll leave the forum soon, gonna happen one day.

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Nice way to bring back the thread to OP lol :D

I find this thread most interesting, (civil) debate can be good. I rather see both sides (if I can call it that).

No, Man U wouldn't win that way .... but i can totally see it happening on a sunday at a local park.

So hopefully I can be clear.

Man U in one of the most $$$$ on THE PLANET, and I don't aspire my team for that. But, if ya do, then you have to invest like them, and that takes time, right? And money, and training (how you invest those skill points is critical I think), and trading (looking for that special free agent, getting talented youths) and building facilities (which i think many of the players ignore that aspect).

I have been doing these, but I spend very little money cos i haven't got it, token farming helps me muchly.

Maybe after more seasons, my team really will have relation to its name sake. (I always have the biggest park in my league, the least suspensions; a couple of my goals) And I only get upset by weaker side on the uber rare occasion, and it's never been a blow out (walkover) since first season. I strive for the best goal diffential, rather than place in league.

I got trolled in my first season, but after figuring out the game a bit more I haven't been seeing those really bizarre results. Maybe trolls don't like Cali! :)

I do wish the bots were less numerous, that is the number one problem with this game. Inactive accounts should be removed/put in pause/whatever out of the league after a month.
Who wants to lose to crappy robot!

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Originally Posted by July Fourth

I'll leave the forum soon, gonna happen one day.

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DON'T GO i have sweetys puppys and lots of pish complainants lololol

Im now lvl 11 i dont know how boring this forum for lvl 21s but eveythings the same ;)

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Originally Posted by Cat Harrison

I find this thread most interesting, (civil) debate can be good. I rather see both sides (if I can call it that).

No, Man U wouldn't win that way .... but i can totally see it happening on a sunday at a local park.

So hopefully I can be clear.

Man U in one of the most $$$$ on THE PLANET, and I don't aspire my team for that. But, if ya do, then you have to invest like them, and that takes time, right? And money, and training (how you invest those skill points is critical I think), and trading (looking for that special free agent, getting talented youths) and building facilities (which i think many of the players ignore that aspect).

I have been doing these, but I spend very little money cos i haven't got it, token farming helps me muchly.

Maybe after more seasons, my team really will have relation to it's name sake. (I always have the biggest park in my league, the least suspensions; a couple of my goals) And I only get upset by weaker side on the uber rare occasion, and it's never been a blow out (walkover.) I strive for the best goal diffential, rather than place in league.

I got trolled in my first season, but after figuring out the game I haven't been seeing those bizarre results.

I do wish the bots were less numerous, that is the number one problem with this game. Innactive accounts should be removed/put ipause/whatever out of the league after a month.
Who wants to lose to carppy robot!

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this is an interesting comment. I quote this. there's no fun for people losing from much weaker bots side after much time and efforts. And Sadly i saw and experienced things like this too many times after 11 seasons. and many users, in the game for more seasons, saw how not so rare these results are. And if you ask me a team with no manager, all out of position players, and illegal formations should ALWAYS lose. or at least 99,9999% of the times. Here it happens too often

Yes there should be massive possession penalty for OOP/illegal formation to like 20 percent or something to where the results aren't stupid

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Originally Posted by thon

DON'T GO i have sweetys puppys and lots of pish complainants lololol

Im now lvl 11 i dont know how boring this forum for lvl 21s but eveythings the same ;)

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I'm not going anywhere anytime soon, But there will be a time where I will go tired of T11. Plus the forum lacks higher level players from posting regularly, I believe there is only myself and Shadow thats above L20 that posts regularly here.

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Originally Posted by Cat Harrison

I find this thread most interesting, (civil) debate can be good. I rather see both sides (if I can call it that).

No, Man U wouldn't win that way .... but i can totally see it happening on a sunday at a local park.

So hopefully I can be clear.



I do wish the bots were less numerous, that is the number one problem with this game. Inactive accounts should be removed/put in pause/whatever out of the league after a month.
Who wants to lose to crappy robot!

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Yes thats true however , through a season if you always won against bots, so will your opponents . Isn't it just as good when the manager your playing against ( closely in the league ) loses unexpectedly to one of these teams . Wow never thought he/she would lose or draw against them !! . Yes it happens to us all ( seems more to some than others ) ?? im not sure of that maybe some underestimate there poor opponent .

(sorry for late reply I had a game to play ) btw won it 8-0 other manager was not present.

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Originally Posted by July Fourth

Why was this thread allowed to become a big deal with the OP only having 17 forum posts? I'd understand if it was one of the regulars here that had 1700 posts.

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Not sure what you mean by a big deal ????? we are having a forum discussion about why people leave and there reasons

Thats what this forum is for right ?????????

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Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener

Yes thats true however , through a season if you always won against bots, so will your opponents . Isn't it just as good when the manager your playing against ( closely in the league ) loses unexpectedly to one of these teams . Wow never thought he/she would lose or draw against them !! . Yes it happens to us all ( seems more to some than others ) ?? im not sure of that maybe some underestimate there poor opponent .

(sorry for late reply I had a game to play ) btw won it 8-0 other manager was not present.

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I think almost all prefers to know they will win every game against those teams, even if the opp will do the same.
About the frequency of this result.... just post you 1 result i suffered just this week.
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this is my game, i watched it.

Yes you surely got trolled. It shouldn't happen so often, and wouldn't if inactive teams were relegated to the bit bucket sooner. They should change it so anyone with keeper OOP lose. Truly please.

and this is only the latest strange result...but it is not the most incredible one i suffered.... and results like this happens 2-3 times a season. So definitely we need Nordeus doing something about it

Not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing here apart from you drew away from home 2-2 and his goalkeeper was in a striker position and his defender was in goal . So he suffered possession for out of place players . You have slightly better quality than him, but an away draw in the league is not a bad result is it ?????. I can remember the good old days when a keeper got injured and a striker went in goal he would get a great ovation every time he touched the ball.

I can understand your frustration at not winning these games but as I said before , Its a free facebook game that tries it's best to entertain us . !!!!!!!!!!!!! ( not always succeeding in some cases ) . But there are more things than just quality and possession when playing this game

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Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener

Not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing here apart from you drew away from home 2-2 and his goalkeeper was in a striker position and his defender was in goal . So he suffered possession for out of place players . You have slightly better quality than him, but an away draw in the league is not a bad result is it ?????. I can remember the good old days when a keeper got injured and a striker went in goal he would get a great ovation every time he touched the ball.

I can understand your frustration at not winning these games but as I said before , Its a free facebook game that tries it's best to entertain us . !!!!!!!!!!!!! ( not always succeeding in some cases ) . But there are more things than just quality and possession when playing this game

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Ok, from now on be so kind to ignore me... it's clear youre a troll

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Originally Posted by CarlTaut

Ok, from now on be so kind to ignore me... it's clear youre a troll

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You dont have to call me a troll just because my opinion differs to yours !!!!! I seem to be in a small minority that enjoys the game, and think that the Top 11 game, is fun to play . regardless of winning or losing So If enjoying the game, and taking the good and bad results on the chin makes me a Troll . I must be ??????

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Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener

You dont have to call me a troll just because my opinion differs to yours !!!!! I seem to be in a small minority that enjoys the game, and think that the Top 11 game, is fun to play . regardless of winning or losing So If enjoying the game, and taking the good and bad results on the chin makes me a Troll . I must be ??????

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I call you a troll because that is just what you are. The top 11 game could be fun, but can be better. there are people that spend money on it, you told them these results happen in the real world too.
I post you of just one of the troll results i received this week. You wrote me:

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Originally Posted by Phil Scrivener

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now i want to hear from you what these things are. Is this a management game right?
so get your facts: I watched the game/he didnt
I'm better than him of almost 12-13 quality points in the formations
I'm full morale and full condition/he is inactive and his players are 0 morale
I play 11 players in their positions/he plays 2 out of 11 players in their positions
I have 72% possession/he has 28 but is able to shot more time than me

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Originally Posted by thon

DON'T GO i have sweetys puppys and lots of pish complainants lololol

Im now lvl 11 i dont know how boring this forum for lvl 21s but eveythings the same ;)

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Bring back cracicot and it wont be boring, thats for sure