Quote Originally Posted by rastaman70 View Post
First off, tanking is not cheating as much as buying tokens is cheating. You cant be hypocritical and call one of them cheating and not both.

Second, relegation would work = you gain a star just like you lose a star when you get promoted. Just like in the big leagues, when you get relegated you get the parachute payments that help to keep the higher paid players you signed for the top league = you go down and still have the better players = so it would work marc symons. I would like to hear why you say it wouldnt work. they have 100 people working for them apparently, they can make the programming and structure work. the problem is that people might get relegated to win the league they missed the season before. but again , how is that different from buying tokens to win a league? one situation is spending money to win a league (tokens) and the other is spending time.

what grinds my gears are the ignorants screaming that tanking is cheating. they should be screaming that buying tokens is cheating. I recently learned what tanking is and will gladly do it next season to keep my guys strong. it is not cheating, it is usuing an advantage that is given to you. it costs you time and ingame money but at least you can compete with the token byers.

huliano was right, stop allowing people to increase their players with tokens to make it fair. they wont do this for money reasons so until they do that, we need some way to compete better.
HINT: Read back posts before posting - 80% of your 'rant' makes no sense. I shouldn't even waste my time responding to you but here it is one last time.

Relegation: So you say that a team should GAIN a star when relegated?. If relegation was an option this is obviously how it would work, however losing a star does not change the quality of the team. It simply adjusts the star ranking according to the level upgrade. So if you were relegated you would lose a star yet your team would still be of the same quality. Therefore like i said earlier you could effectively have teams with 60 quality getting relegated over and over all the way down to a league/level where teams of 20 quality are playing. This is what would happen - people would intentionally get relegated in order to dominate leagues and it would be very unfair and off putting to lower ranked teams/newbies to be playing against teams they have no chance of beating.

Tanking vs Tokens - Your statement about Token buying being as much 'cheating' as tankning is probably the most dumb thing i have read in my time at this forum. In fact i feel a little stupider after reading it. People may not like it but you NEED tokens to play this game and in REAL football there are teams with lots of money who can improve there squad to high levels, as there is also poorer teams that cannot afford to buy top players. The same counts in Top eleven, tere are players with lost of real money that buy tokens to improve there squad and there are players that cant afford or simply choose not to buy tokens. (See the resemblance there)
Tanking on the other hand is a player intentionally losing/throwing matches in order to rig competition draws and have a better chance of winning the next year. In REAL football if a team was to tank (Intentionally lose matches/throw matches) it WOULD be cheating and would result in major fines and even a team being thrown out of the league. (See the resemblance there)

Therefore token buying is obviously not cheating - It is a feature programmed into the game by the developers.

Tanking is cheating and apart from it being cheating it is unethical as Top Eleven is all about competition and who wants to play against teams that throw matches? Tankers are also known to tank in order to get easier cup draws. Your argument is flawed.