Haha now I see the whole point of your post is getting our attention to the picture, but unfortunately I only noticed after you mentioned it =)) SorryOriginally Posted by khris
the only think that I love of what I've writted in this post... is the picture that I did xDDD ...well... too we have to have a guide for noobs, to explain the problem of this, and let they know that, the game is "super" like it is
As I see I have to put this picture bigger, the idea is that noobs have to see this pic just 1 second after enter to the forum LOL
hahahahaha)))
As I said in the original thread about relegation this method will NOT WORK!!!!! This is too easy to manipulate and will make life hell.
It's a bit direspectful to be calling everyone who doesn't share your opinion a noob isn't it?
Your tone is aggressive and you are assuming that anyone with a different opinion just knows nothing. What a silly and unproductive thread this is.
No, indeed relegation won't work in the current game if everything stays as it is NOW. But why would they add relegation to a game in the current form? Clearly they would need to change other aspects as well to make it work. And there are plenty of ideas on how this would work. Just saying in advance that any relegation would never work is short-sighted and makes YOU the 'noob'.
That aside, Nordeus has changed less than a handful of minor things in several years. The idea that they would change something so big and fundamental as relegation and promotion is a laughable idea. Won't happen purely because they don't have the intention/effort/manpower/capabilities/desire to do so.
The way to implement the relegation/star issue is to take a star off every player who has more than 5 stars in a team that is relegated.
I would have relegation for the team that finishes 13th and 14th. If they have any 6 star players then they will go to 5 star players the following season. If they have a player who is 5 star then they stay at 5 star. Thus the relegated team would still be strong for the league they are relegated into, but are not overly strong and then no reward is made for deliberately relegating the team.
The only other way to solve this without relegating teams is to give the teams that finish in a relegation spot (again I'd just go for the bottom 2 teams) a minus points figure for the start of the next season - a bit like teams that go into Admin have. Finish bottom of the league and you start the next season on -10 points. Start second bottom start on -5.... I don't like this idea as much as relegation but it would stop those from tanking if they know getting enough points to qualify for the champions league the next season will be harder as a result.
Except for the fact that stars don't actually mean anything. It's the quality that indicates what star you see at a certain level. Are you suggesting that the player lose a potential 5 quality points (75 skillpoints) per star?
On top of that, people who tank on purpose will not be relegated in the 13th and 14th spot, but will likely be able to stay safely at the 8-12 spots.
In my opinion you need to have massive fanbase losses if you tank. On top since people seem to mention CL all the time, if you tank, you shouldn't be able to participate in the Champion's League you failed to qualify for.
So for example if you are lvl 20 and see you can't qualify for lvl 21 CL and decide to tank, you can not qualify for lvl 21 CL next season or any other season either. You should get only one shot to qualify for a certain level's CL.
I realize it's also a silly plan, but tanking needs to have a penalty and relegation is not an option right now as it's too easy to manipulate.
Yes, sorry, I probably wasn't too clear on that - any 6 star or above player loses 75 skill points to take them one full star quality wise down.
Again, its not ideal, however I do think relegation (just for the bottom 2 teams, not the bottom 7) could add something to the game and make things a bit more competitive.
manipulation of any match outcome is not allowed in any football match regardless of the reason
clubs do get relegated for that IRL you know
my team @ http://forum.topeleven.com/team-show...ears-fc-2.html
League : winner (S1, S2, S3, S6, S7) , runner up (S4*, S5*) * was in holiday away
CL: Winner (S4, S7), runner up (S2, S3, S5, S6)
Cup: Winner (S3)
I'm just new at this.. but relegation seems good.. only that you are not making the right changes... making incomes balance between leagues more pronounced... making some punishment to morale for some days.... increasing players salary... taking many fans... and of course, players should gain a star that would be realistic and make salary higher..
I dont think that a soccer crack as CR7 would improve his skills the same way as he does when playing against Messi, if he plays against really crappy players... just be honest.. he wouldn't improve... because he isn't really competing.. So that team which is relegated wouldnt be tanking instead it would be stagnant, becouse their players aren't improving, they just are getting their players older and older, they arent motivated to play good, so that teams keep with out getting fans, worst theam would have a good chance to win against them just becouse their are move motivated... the incomes get worst and worst with time, and the club balance should become negative, unable to keep good players becouse the club have no money to pay them, so that club becomes in a balanced team for that league....
If you want a change.. make a real big one...
Just saying.. Oh!! i'm forgetting. i'm really new to english, excuse me..
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