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This is a starting level 2 team I just started this month , and I was wondering why i lost ?!
He was playing with 4-5-1 and I countered him with 3-5-2 to make a good score - according to http://forum.topeleven.com/formation...-what-use.html - then i was surprised with this result .
I was there and my possession was +3% .
Besides my team is 18 overall rating against 13 overall rating .
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any good explanation ? :confused:
Table of Counter Formations - What to use?
july forth win only 80% of his matches, it means that 1/5 matche counter don't works. if you lost 1-0 i don't see anything wrong.
my advice is kick ass next match, i had 1-1 yet with 70% possession only managed 4 shots on goal yet other team with 30% managed 11 shots on goals with them scoring 1st and i scored in 89th minute, so far this season these are the only point`s i`v dropped and not changed tactics and only have to change formation twice
There is no such things as counter formations. It's about buying the right players and utilising them correctly.
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I was trolled 1-0 today in the Champs League.
Just got to suck it up and see if I can overturn it on Tuesday. My team is vastly superior but I don't hold much hope at the moment.
yep, suck it up and duke it. only thing that makes sense
i too dont believe in counter formations, so i just keep faith in 4-5-1 CAM and switch the CAM to a CF or CDM depending on results
you only lost 1-0 ? and it's probably cause he was using counter attack and punished you .
I lost 4-0 against a team quality 15 and mine was 26
Lol at you relying on the counter table as if it's going to guarantee wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by elite91
One piece of advice for you. YOU make the decisions for your team, don't let a table dictate your style of playing.
If you intend on playing this game longer you need to be independent and improvise on orders and formations. Personally I use what I feel is best for my team and I rarely ever use the counter formations table. This is not to say that the table is BS as a lot of it is accurate... However, the formations table should only be used as guidance and not letting it take over your way of playing.
Get used to it.
This is by far and away the single best bit of advice I have read on these forums.... should be framed ... put on a wall ... and repeated before every match.Quote:
Originally Posted by dv8r
If your team is superior against your opponent, you have a very good chance to overturn it. Lately, I was trolled 0-2 against a team which was 7Q lower than mine. I didn't watch that game and neither did my opponent. On the away game, I put all my best players in and secured 3 goals in 15 mins. By the time, my opponent started to support his team, everything has been settled. My team won 6-0 finally. Like you said, just suck the troll result and hope for the best in the next match. NGE troll me quite a number of times this season. I just swore at it once and then move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by kynan
It's even worse when you lose 3 - 0 against a team with 39.8Q even though you have 55.7Q.
kaka 30%-70% but still wins, virtual too? :D :cool:
even 20-80 like chelsea still win uefalona lolQuote:
Originally Posted by duchao
Dont call them counter formations then, call them formations that work better vs specific formations. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. based on this logic, there is a perfect "counter" for every formation. You just have to know what it is. Funny becuase I saw several results today where narrow diamond lost to 4-4-2 classic. Seems that it is not the perfect coutner for it anymore, but i still see that it works most of the time. I guess your coutner depends on your instructions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Symons
442 has no counter. put red arrow in RLM, play Wing attack short passing. you'll see what am i sayingQuote:
Originally Posted by rastaman70
I beat 4-4-2 regularly playing 4-5-1, or 4-1-3wide-1-1 up the middle. i think that it is one of the ones that works better vs 4-4-2 but not all the time. 3-1-4-2 was like that for me as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by tongly45
try with an actice manager same star(not quality) of the best 11. see if you can win more than 50%. 442 has a weak point at the center but not really see a tatic should counter itQuote:
Originally Posted by rastaman70
i wouldn't say the weakness is the middle. They say the same about 4-3N-3 having weak flanks, however the correct approach is to attack through the middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by tongly45
It really depends on the quality and I'm very sceptical about counter formations. I generally use my best formation that I can use and that tends to work for me.
i used 442 hexagonal and alway won. but i have never face a similar quality team. i don't really knowQuote:
Originally Posted by dv8r
In reply to this, I played my second leg of this game today, the game falling just 40 mins after I had played in the League, without me being able to watch the game and I won 4-0.Quote:
Originally Posted by kynan
Just goes to show that occasionally the troll result will come regardless of what you have done to prevent it. In this situation, all is well that ends well as I progress 4-1 on agg.