What affects the end result most?

So I have seen many weird results and now I also played a game, which seemed to be easy, but ended 1-1. Quality was 27.6 ( me ) vs 15.2 ( opponent ).

So I was thinking. If I have like 10Q better team, should I really think about formation or should I easily win that game? 10Q difference is huge in this game, but I also need a perfect tactic against him?

Like in this game: 27.6Q vs 15.2Q and result is this :
http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps8113aef1.png

It seems weird, that he even scored a goal, but I only scored 1 goal...I know that it's football and anything is possible but really...I have to always choose perfect counter formation against opponent, then comes quality difference?

Which is more important?
1) Perfect counter formation.
2)Quality
3)Perfect commands ( Normal, mixed etc? )

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randomness

So no need to buy tokens, it's all random. But is it ? :O

Haha...

absolutely sure!!!!

12.5Q difference is not enough for 100% win. I quit this game like 6 months ago and start playing again now, but what happened then, happens again. I was like 28Q and opponents were like 15Q, I finished 2-nd...

One thing that i hardly ever read on the forum that i think plays a huge role is win bonus. i've got 5 teams at various levels and the difference between turning win bonus up to max compared to paying nothing is massive.

I agree the result was a surprise maybe even Bull**** but he was at home and if his win bonus was maxed and yours was off i'd expect this result.

Its difficult in the early stages as cash is turned over fast on a variety of things like signings and construction my best team is at level 10. By the time you get to about 6-7 you should be able to leave it at max and still turn a profit and beat teams better than you.

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Originally Posted by k1tb

So no need to buy tokens, it's all random. But is it ? :O

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100% random. Very little we do as managers makes any difference and things like match stats and players match ratings mean nothing in this game. In my game today my MC scored 2 goals and had an assist and got a rating of 6!!!!! Total and utter bull**** randomness!!!!

I am max win bonus tho...

Penny dropped yet that it's all crap?

We all get that at some point when you realise that it's all a load of rubbish and that all Nordeus are interested in is getting money from us.

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Originally Posted by BigB79

100% random. Very little we do as managers makes any difference and things like match stats and players match ratings mean nothing in this game. In my game today my MC scored 2 goals and had an assist and got a rating of 6!!!!! Total and utter bull**** randomness!!!!

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i had the same result yesterday yet today i beat a similar quality team 4-0 ? how does that work

my only secret, is to know my team, and how are my players programmed to work in a match. the quality is not all, I have players of 3 stars that obtain a 9 of valoration playing against teams of mu quality 6*, and work excellent, so the important is to do like in real life, see what players can give you more.

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Originally Posted by khris

my only secret, is to know my team, and how are my players programmed to work in a match. the quality is not all, I have players of 3 stars that obtain a 9 of valoration playing against teams of mu quality 6*, and work excellent, so the important is to do like in real life, see what players can give you more.

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my player`s had better rating`s dominated game yesterday, yet still drew ??

This is my seventh season and it's more crazy than ever.... I am winning better teams and losing to worse teams.... I know that real football has surprises, but I think this year the engine ramdom software is going too far....

Nordeus, as Google says: DONT BE EVIL!!! :rolleyes:

i find it weird how losing to the top of the league by 1 goal damages morale more than losing to a mid table by more than 2 goals. losing against an abandoned/illegal team should get you full morale with this logic

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Originally Posted by khris

my only secret, is to know my team, and how are my players programmed to work in a match. the quality is not all, I have players of 3 stars that obtain a 9 of valoration playing against teams of mu quality 6*, and work excellent, so the important is to do like in real life, see what players can give you more.

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Ohhh, Really?
If there's useless in player quality, we don't need so many T & $!

CHEER!!!
:)

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Originally Posted by Belgji

Ohhh, Really?
If there's useless in player quality, we don't need so many T & $!

CHEER!!!
:)

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Game create all types of players, I had one scout, a ST, it costs me 50 tokens and in 26 matches did 3 goals. (Djibril Cissé)
he had a usual valoration of 7, but? it doesnt matter, the quality, or the valoration, the important is what they do.

Different is the case of my better player, jan vennegoor of hesselink, that have a % of + than 3 goals/ every 4 matches.
our work, like "managers", is to see that, and decide, that simple. So, yeah, the quality of a player is not all, because as I said, game is programming players, with hidden skills, this hidden skills are, for example, if they are good in corners, penalties, if they have a "usual" mode to play and score.. efective with head, and more hidden skills that the admins don't wanna tell me (because I ask to they, but... (-.-)' is a secret, because if they tell me for example, in what % affect the losing of morale, I will have an advantage LOL )
I remember Edgar Davids, my old and loved player, he scored lots of goals and the 70% from shoots from far away, and when you are not waiting for.

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Originally Posted by khris

Game create all types of players, I had one scout, a ST, it costs me 50 tokens and in 26 matches did 3 goals. (Djibril Cissé)
he had a usual valoration of 7, but? it doesnt matter, the quality, or the valoration, the important is what they do.

Different is the case of my better player, jan vennegoor of hesselink, that have a % of + than 3 goals/ every 4 matches.
our work, like "managers", is to see that, and decide, that simple. So, yeah, the quality of a player is not all, because as I said, game is programming players, with hidden skills, this hidden skills are, for example, if they are good in corners, penalties, if they have a "usual" mode to play and score.. efective with head, and more hidden skills that the admins don't wanna tell me (because I ask to they, but... (-.-)' is a secret, because if they tell me for example, in what % affect the losing of morale, I will have an advantage LOL )
I remember Edgar Davids, my old and loved player, he scored lots of goals and the 70% from shoots from far away, and when you are not waiting for.

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the admins don't wanna tell me (because I ask to they, but... (-.-)' is a secret, because if they tell me for example, in what % affect the losing of morale, I will have an advantage LOL )

First of all they dont know..so simple..they have no clue how the game works,
Secondly the programmers of this game also dont know how it works,cause if they knew they would have made simple adjustments and proposals that hundreds users have told them(here and in Nords mailbox).I believe that the code is a simple rate of Q+ players skills,+condition,but the RANDOMNESS,is the the big rate here..Also i think that all the f BOTS that screw us some times have a minus rate (lets say -10%?? -15%??),so u can beat them easily most of the time ,but they can screw u ,once cause that -15 rate doesn't excist(by code) or cause that day ur team has been the rate to has a -10 rate (30games in a season for example,in 1-2 the code sets a -10 rate)

I remember ,that i have set hundreds of friendlies with my second team ,and one of my friends...same tactics,same players,same conditions and all kind of results came with none be a favor.Next season,better Q,better conditions,everything better,all vistories but sometimes diffucult wins(for example,10-0,next game 3-1,etc).

So do not try to understand the code..Nords dont give a **** to answer any questions u have,the only they care is T.
Take it or leave it..its so simple..

It is entirely luck.... Try to stand on ur head and watch the match... It gives good results:D

I know that sometimes "small" teams can surprise the "big" ones, but it won't happen too many times. In this game it's more like a usual thing than a surprise...

I think the players and also their stats (striking abilities for strikers, defending for defenders etc) is the most important factor. The formation, orders and possession are important as well. Then there is a luck factor.

I prefer using balanced 4-4-2 classic, because my players are well suited for it and it works often. When I want to defend or attack more, I can easily make some changes.

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Originally Posted by cursed

I think the players and also their stats (striking abilities for strikers, defending for defenders etc) is the most important factor. The formation, orders and possession are important as well. Then there is a luck factor.

I prefer using balanced 4-4-2 classic, because my players are well suited for it and it works often. When I want to defend or attack more, I can easily make some changes.

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Hate to tell you but formations, orders and possession mean absolutely nothing in this game and people on this forum have proved that a number of times.

In that 1-1 match with 12.5Q lower team, I changed formation and orders at half time and nothing changed. Hes 2* and 3* defenders played like gods against my 6*and 5* attackers...no problem at all.

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Originally Posted by BigB79

Hate to tell you but formations, orders and possession mean absolutely nothing in this game and people on this forum have proved that a number of times.

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This isn't cool if it's really true. When teams are equal, it's all about the luck then? I've thought they mean something and noticed some differences, especially when playing against very defensive minded formations. I can't prove anything though.

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Originally Posted by cursed

This isn't cool if it's really true. When teams are equal, it's all about the luck then? I've thought they mean something and noticed some differences, especially when playing against very defensive minded formations. I can't prove anything though.

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The teams don't even have to be equal, it's all about luck.

Search for posters on here called itayfranko, rastaman70 and cracicot (are we allowed to mention that name? Lol) and look through their posts and you will see very little we do counts in this game.

In my opinion the game is designed to get us to spend money on buying tokens. Its just my opinion, and I may be wrong, but I've played this game for 14 months and been on this forum for 8 months and all I see Nordeus caring about is how to get us to spend money.

The more I play this game, the more I feel the same...Tokens, tokens, tokens....

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Originally Posted by k1tb

So I have seen many weird results and now I also played a game, which seemed to be easy, but ended 1-1. Quality was 27.6 ( me ) vs 15.2 ( opponent ).

So I was thinking. If I have like 10Q better team, should I really think about formation or should I easily win that game? 10Q difference is huge in this game, but I also need a perfect tactic against him?

Like in this game: 27.6Q vs 15.2Q and result is this :
http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps8113aef1.png

It seems weird, that he even scored a goal, but I only scored 1 goal...I know that it's football and anything is possible but really...I have to always choose perfect counter formation against opponent, then comes quality difference?

Which is more important?
1) Perfect counter formation.
2)Quality
3)Perfect commands ( Normal, mixed etc? )

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Q) What affects the end result most?
Ans ) WIN BONUS...

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Originally Posted by BigB79

100% random. Very little we do as managers makes any difference and things like match stats and players match ratings mean nothing in this game. In my game today my MC scored 2 goals and had an assist and got a rating of 6!!!!! Total and utter bull**** randomness!!!!

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That means that we all are foolish...When its just random then why we are playing the game...lol...
Although I agree with you that winning is 100% random but partially, have you ever seen an entirely bad team winning a league, cup or champions league...The answer is no...Even teams like Real Madrid and Barcelona gets beaten by poor teams...

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Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker Singh

Q) What affects the end result most?
Ans ) WIN BONUS...

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Win bonus maxed...

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Originally Posted by k1tb

Win bonus maxed...

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Inspite of that you can loose or draw...But WIN BONUS is the only thing that has an IMPACT on Winning...and the rest are entirely random...

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Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker gh

That means that we all are foolish...When its just random then why we are playing the game...lol...
Although I agree with you that winning is 100% random but partially, have you ever seen an entirely bad team winning a league, cup or champions league...The answer is no...Even teams like Real Madrid and Barcelona gets beaten by poor teams...

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Are we all foolish? Yes. Nordeus deserve some credit for writing a program that makes us spend money before we realise it's all a pile of pish. I've lost count the number people that have encountered this in this forum.

Have you ever seen Barca or Madrid finish second bottom? Last season I had the second strongest team in my league and wasn't far off be a 6* star team. I didn't change much that had won me 10 leagues out of 14 and had won me Champions Leagues but for whatever reason I finished 12th.

It must be much harder to success when you're playing higher levels. I'm playing on a good server with some friends. Our leagues have been better than some others, because it hasn't been all about the inactive players and robots like some other servers. Still there's too many inactive players and easy wins... Even the transfer market seems to be alright. I see NGE players every morning and I'm able to buy decent players when it's needed. My other friends are not in the same server and their transfer market isn't even nearly as good as ours.

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Originally Posted by dimdim1

the admins don't wanna tell me (because I ask to they, but... (-.-)' is a secret, because if they tell me for example, in what % affect the losing of morale, I will have an advantage LOL )

First of all they dont know..so simple..they have no clue how the game works,
Secondly the programmers of this game also dont know how it works,cause if they knew they would have made simple adjustments and proposals that hundreds users have told them(here and in Nords mailbox).I believe that the code is a simple rate of Q+ players skills,+condition,but the RANDOMNESS,is the the big rate here..Also i think that all the f BOTS that screw us some times have a minus rate (lets say -10%?? -15%??),so u can beat them easily most of the time ,but they can screw u ,once cause that -15 rate doesn't excist(by code) or cause that day ur team has been the rate to has a -10 rate (30games in a season for example,in 1-2 the code sets a -10 rate)

I remember ,that i have set hundreds of friendlies with my second team ,and one of my friends...same tactics,same players,same conditions and all kind of results came with none be a favor.Next season,better Q,better conditions,everything better,all vistories but sometimes diffucult wins(for example,10-0,next game 3-1,etc).

So do not try to understand the code..Nords dont give a **** to answer any questions u have,the only they care is T.
Take it or leave it..its so simple..

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I'm not agree in anything.
This game is a simulation game, and have a mode to work, using the skills that you see, and hidden skills that we can not see. You can obtain more if you understand how it works. Is basically programming, if you wanna do a manager football game... and if like Nordeus you have 100 persons working be sure that is not for nothing.
Well.. yeah,, they bought a cofee machine for the office and they spend time using it, thats why they are 100 and thats not like eRepublik... ---...(-.-)''
I talk of my own experience, and with my experience I had very good results sine I started this game, so no more things matter for me I will continue playing like now coz it works, and I think is the good way if I wanna win more in this game.
because the first is the $$$ in this game, yeah,
but the second is knowledage.
Fin de la cita.

If any admins /nordeus programmers are reading this, pse put a shotgun in ur mouth and pull the trigger. My team finished 2nd last season, bot afew additions, my Quality is highest in the league, i repeat, HIGHEST!!!! And yet after 6 matches i lost 4 and draw 2. Now i'm bottom of league. Tried almost everything, even playing with friendlies on lower leagues, but my players always underperform.

I've bought 3 GKs, the last one was a desperate measure of 50 tokens + 18million. He just got 5--4-4-4 on his form.

I will quit this game once my tokens are done. Fark Nordeus. This game is stupid.

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If any admins /nordeus programmers are reading this, pse put a shotgun in ur mouth and pull the trigger. My team finished 2nd last season, bot afew additions, my Quality is highest in the league, i repeat, HIGHEST!!!! And yet after 6 matches i lost 4 and draw 2. Now i'm bottom of league. Tried almost everything, even playing with friendlies on lower leagues, but my players always underperform.

I've bought 3 GKs, the last one was a desperate measure of 50 tokens + 18million. He just got 5--4-4-4 on his form.

I will quit this game once my tokens are done. Fark Nordeus. This game is stupid.

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I know it is frustrating. U shouldn't buy Tokens.... I have had a million pathetic GKs who are high Q but concede more than what a rat would!!!! It is irritating as all hell. If u want to continue the game for fun without biying Ts, tank the season. Lose on purpose. When the NGE feels u want to lose, It will make ur form good again. Don't shell out money as it is all the NGE wants. When they don't get it 4 some time, they stop trying:mad:

But someone got's to pour in money otherwise the will stop due to financial crisis...So both type of players are mandatory - the wallets one's and the non wallet one's...

Nothing. It's random and luck.
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