Keep Spending or Rot

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Originally Posted by rastaman70

I dont think this is proven. there are people who have pointed out that its your top 14 players averaged, so having a few 1* players means nothing.

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I played a guy in the cup in season 5 or 6 and my average quality was 2 above his, although he was 2 levels above me.
Checked his team and he had 13 players 7* and above and 9 3* (1* to him) players.
He beat me easily and went onto win the cup that season as all the other teams were around the same average level.
Someone also posted something similar a week or so back with screenshots of a team half scout and above and half one * with a nice low average quality.

If you have 500-600T per season this is quit simple. At the end of the season you sell oll players and by 3* ducks. At the morning of new season you go to scoute list by 10 scoutes and the go to auction list by some desent 5* players and you have around 10-15 Q advantage over your opponents in CUP. :)

LOL at this thread.

The game would be rubbish if teams always beat teams they are better than, shock results make it more unpredictable and realistic. Man Utd 2-2 Fulham and West Brom 1-1 Chelsea from the last week are perfect examples in the real world; sometimes poor teams get results against good teams.

In every management SIM I've ever played users moan about dominating games and not winning, but I bet no one has ever complained when they've won a game that they shouldn't have.

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Originally Posted by paulhalt

LOL at this thread.

The game would be rubbish if teams always beat teams they are better than, shock results make it more unpredictable and realistic. Man Utd 2-2 Fulham and West Brom 1-1 Chelsea from the last week are perfect examples in the real world; sometimes poor teams get results against good teams.

In every management SIM I've ever played users moan about dominating games and not winning, but I bet no one has ever complained when they've won a game that they shouldn't have.

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I complain even when I win games... Is that okay, sir?

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Originally Posted by paulhalt

LOL at this thread.

The game would be rubbish if teams always beat teams they are better than, shock results make it more unpredictable and realistic. Man Utd 2-2 Fulham and West Brom 1-1 Chelsea from the last week are perfect examples in the real world; sometimes poor teams get results against good teams.

In every management SIM I've ever played users moan about dominating games and not winning, but I bet no one has ever complained when they've won a game that they shouldn't have.

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I just waiting the moment when my main team will beat samo better team.

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Originally Posted by paulhalt

LOL at this thread.

The game would be rubbish if teams always beat teams they are better than, shock results make it more unpredictable and realistic. Man Utd 2-2 Fulham and West Brom 1-1 Chelsea from the last week are perfect examples in the real world; sometimes poor teams get results against good teams.

In every management SIM I've ever played users moan about dominating games and not winning, but I bet no one has ever complained when they've won a game that they shouldn't have.

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LOL at you.

how dare you compare this game to real life. If you had read several decent threads about this game on this forum, you would never had said such folly, knowing that only the game of football itself is represented here, not anything else that has to do with the game.

formations mean nothing
morale means nothing
condition means nothing

those are supposedly three big issues that contribute to a team winning. if those mean nothing, then what else in this game means nothing? I would suggest that tactics and instructions also mean nothing as the next stepping point.

This is a poor excuse for a management SIM, because its a joke in terms of a SIM. Its fairly good in terms of management as it gives you the impression that you are actually managing a team, albeit in a mickey mouse fashion instead of FM......where you manage down the minute details.

so please dont compare mickey mouse online games with real life...real life is far more complex and deserves more than this sort of comparison.

paulhalt... you know what? i was a bit worry from the lack of people comparing real world football with t11... finally you came to bring back normality ahah :P
seriously for how long we should hear people that say that t11 simulates the real world?

I stopped buying tokens 2-3 seasons ago. There are a ton of less infuriating ways to burn money than this joyless cash sponge. The problem, for someone like me who has a thing for numbers, is that the numbers in the game don't amount to ****, the only number that matters is how many tokens bought.

Of course, fortunately for the devs, their core target audience are not exactly the classiest dates in the calender, with the sveltest figures in the math class. They care about "football!"and "winning!", numb-burrs be a distraction best left to thawing eskimoes.

The only reason I'm still around is because I'd committed myself to a forum league. which I can't even access at this point because this PoS user un-friendly site won't let me reset my password.


Oh yeah, have a nice day.

Not spent a penny in three seasons so far, Won L1, Won L2 and the cup and 3rd in CL. Currently 2nd in L3

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Originally Posted by Conker King

I stopped buying tokens 2-3 seasons ago. There are a ton of less infuriating ways to burn money than this joyless cash sponge. The problem, for someone like me who has a thing for numbers, is that the numbers in the game don't amount to ****, the only number that matters is how many tokens bought.

Of course, fortunately for the devs, their core target audience are not exactly the classiest dates in the calender, with the sveltest figures in the math class. They care about "football!"and "winning!", numb-burrs be a distraction best left to thawing eskimoes.

The only reason I'm still around is because I'd committed myself to a forum league. which I can't even access at this point because this PoS user un-friendly site won't let me reset my password.


Oh yeah, have a nice day.

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mate, if it is not more fun to you playing in our league i think you should quit. You arent forced to be with us.

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Originally Posted by Cat Harrison

I have more than one (too many really) teams and I haven't noticed this.

One is the StL Steamers, 35T League, won Cup, never won League but they are sharks... :D

Another is one I only farm on.. has won League and CL, not every season, but qualifies CL always.

Another couple I have farmed and bought (once during the good sale) they have both won many trophies, and generally finish in CL but not always #1.

My big team, BVB I have bought more than a few Tokens for, and have made many in game friends so I have active League. The system puts you in with your friends in a League regardless of token buying, I know a couple of my friends and they do not buy, and one is my fiercest competitor. I think general Quality must be a consideration after friends. I have only won Cup once but CL and league many times.

It is not necessary to buy Tokens to have fun and success in this game.

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Actualy you are almost right .Yes you can sucses without buying tokens but only few season(10-12).Then game is very diferent.IN first (lets be 15 lvl) game is prety normal - in games wich you have stronger team you win some time with big results ,vs weaker team big result is 100%.And it is normal .But then... then welcome in new game wich dont have anything with this first 15 lvl.TM is empty almost all time.If you dont buy tokens dont watch young players in TM you have no chance for them.If you want to make your team enough good from promotion you have to spend a lot of time behind pc waiting good 5 star player.At last if you have luck and you have 5-6 star team comming strange results.For example in first lvl is absolutly normal if your team have 5-6 quality more to win easy.But after 15 lvl you must be happy if you make draw with team wich quality is lower with 10.Team wich are lower than you with 5-6 usualy crash you(for exapmle i lost my last 2 games from 3-5 stars team with big results 1:6 and 0:5! even my team have 9 players with SA and this teams not).Strange is games with team wich have almost same quality .Results is normal almost all time.In hight lvl if you dont buy tokens or if you buy smal amount is very hard to create 5 stars team,but if you do it its not enough for promotion.Without spending a lot of money for tokens with 5-6 stars players you will finish in last 5 team in leage and next season when your team is 6-7 stars you have chance for promotion.If you think that teams wich get promotion is stronger you have wrong.Team wich finished on top usualy have few 4 stars players on the field but they easy pwn your 5-6 star team...So what you can do is you want to get promotion -buy a lot of tokens,buy scouts(they are not amaizing like in first 15 lvl personaly i have 2 who never get more than 5!)powertrain team to get fast 6-7 stars quality(yes you need 6-7 stars team to beat "top" team full with 4 stars players who played much better than your 7 stars scouts,they dont need SA to make hattrick from free kick ...) or you have to stay in same lvl 2-3 seasons to get hardly promotion with few other 4 stars teams....
Forum can prove my words easy -you can count how many thread about strange results are opened + few vent thread with ppl who are complain from this.
I realy cant understand why game folow this logic.If active player with good team get promotion easier he will looking for new players more often.So he will spend tokens.Today is 6-th day of season and i know that i have to stay with my 5-6-7 stars team at this lvl one more season(if i keep play)this mean that i wont spend any tokens next 2 month.In third month i wont spend tokens in first days becouse i know that no point i know that i cant get promotion from first trying.I will wait midle or end of season and will buy players easy for smal amount of tokens and wait next season... At last if i get promotion every season i will need more tokens i have no problem to buy some and i will be happy.But if get promotion 1 time per 2-3 month ofc i dont need tokens becouse i will get them from TV rights..
If nordeus fix this ilogical results peolple will not open every day threads wich started"HOW" "OMG" etc will be not angry,will not use bad words against mods and support(like me )and will spend more tokens every season.All will win:) Thats why i can understand why active players with good team keep loosing from abadoned team and why they loose with big results from equals team.No one like to loose even he spend money.Noone will spend money to watch how his team lost 1:6 from weak team than his.
So you are right but for first lvl when you become near 20 lvl will speak again(if you have ingame support becouse you are mod its diferent :) jocking)

Keep spending or just tank when necessary =)

(sorry to those that disapproves tanking)

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Originally Posted by Mao LFC

Keep spending or just tank when necessary =)

(sorry to those that disapproves tanking)

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no dont be sorry. tanking is a legitimate strategy in this game. there is no need to apologize for mentioning it.