Nordeus apologists, please explain...

I manage four teams.

I have been focusing a lot of attention on two teams. I train players, buy players off the transfer market, attend games, pay a lot of attention on in-game strategy, etc. etc.

The other two teams I just make sure all players in the line up are healthy and eligible. I do not attend games, I do not change game strategy. I do not train, and so on...

The two teams I focus a lot of time on are both out of the Champions League and Cups. The teams I don't pay attention to are both in the Semis of both Champions and Cup.

So......how is that possible? When is Nordeus going to explain what factors affect game outcome?

FYI, this is two seasons in a row of the same results.

Maybe you are a dreadful manager and make poor decisions during the games which costs your team the result?

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Originally Posted by kynan

Maybe you are a dreadful manager and make poor decisions during the games which costs your team the result?

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While your wit is amazingly impressive (you should be a writer!), it doesn't help with my point.

We are blind to know exactly what is necessary to create consistent results. This game does not reflect real world, most managers admit to that, so why not let us in on the formula that helps generate good results.

I would like to hear from mangers who are many seasons in....after four seasons, I see no rhyme or reason to what generates consistently productive teams. Is it player quality, player form (and what helps improve form?), game strategy?

Based on my experience, results are 75% or more random.

Your two disqualified teams / accounts are higher lvl than the ones you do not focus on. If this is the case, maybe Nordeus sees new customers at your alt accounts and provides them with hope for the shake of profit?

The way I see it is the morale of the story is don't bother much with you good teams!, :D, my guess is your level your on, obviously the higher the harder it gets, also you have to take into account that your opposition is a lot stronger!, you paired with higher levels.

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Originally Posted by Spyros

Your two disqualified teams / accounts are higher lvl than the ones you do not focus on. If this is the case, maybe Nordeus sees new customers at your alt accounts and provides them with hope for the shake of profit?

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Interesting theory....however, two of the teams (one I am active with, the other I am not) are on the same server, same league, same champions league, albeit different cups.

I've got exactly the opposite happening to me.

I'm scared to miss a game, as every one I don't spectate, I seem to lose/draw!

Really nobody know's how are the hidden abilities proggrammed in players, % by default of effectiveness, in what % affect the morale, in what % affect the low condition, in what % the wrong position, in what % the bonus, in what.... :) in what a lot of thing's and the "match scenario's" or "types of matches" or, "circumstances" that the game use to do the matches simulations, and bring the matches to one way, maybe, this match your team is more aggressive, maybe, you win 1-0 and the other have 5 yellow cards, nobody know really that.

That's why I try to play that trying to understand how is programmed this thing...

this thing...
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THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE! SOMEWHERE!...Nordeus should rename themselves the X FILES!;):D.

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Originally Posted by Sxrenity

I've got exactly the opposite happening to me.

I'm scared to miss a game, as every one I don't spectate, I seem to lose/draw!

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same for me. this season seems even more so. i have dropped points in all games i havent attended this season. more than once this season i have joined games late (35 mins plus) and found myself 1-0 down even 2-0 down. but as soon as i have joined the match i have noticed a significant difference and i have turned those games around and won them.

Don't you think if they would reveal the secret, that it would take away the entire aspect of the game called managing?
If they would let everyone in on their secret, we're not managing anything, but we're copying.
Wouldn't that be boring, everyone using the same strategy?
I like it, everyone is different, everyone thinks different, everyone manages different. that's the fun of a game like this!

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Originally Posted by René Steegs

Don't you think if they would reveal the secret, that it would take away the entire aspect of the game called managing?
If they would let everyone in on their secret, we're not managing anything, but we're copying.
Wouldn't that be boring, everyone using the same strategy?
I like it, everyone is different, everyone thinks different, everyone manages different. that's the fun of a game like this!

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No, I don't like that idea at all. Although it's an interesting philosophy and I would not be devastated if that was Nordeus' reasoning for the secrecy.

However, the problem in my scenario is that it seems that doing nothing trumps doing something to achieve victories. That's not fun at all.

Had some strange results recently but hey its football and the proverbial doodoo happens look at the chelsea result today.

On a brighter note i have been tanking this season and decided to test my team and put them out to win against the top of my league and well 4-1 win :) ohhh im now 6th grrrr

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Originally Posted by Scout Gorski

Interesting theory....however, two of the teams (one I am active with, the other I am not) are on the same server, same league, same champions league, albeit different cups.

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It's exactly the same here.

I've won a treble with my 35T team, doing exactly the same I do with the main one. I've won a CL with my unmanaged team (I don't watch almost any game).

And to rule out possible bad live management, I never change my tactics. I am conservative and I always make one substitution per game only, specially near the end.

So I believe in what Spyros said, the less you get involved the better.

There are no secrets involved guys, only sloppy game engine. If there was a proper method, they would be proud to announce it I am afraid :p

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Originally Posted by Sxrenity

I've got exactly the opposite happening to me.

I'm scared to miss a game, as every one I don't spectate, I seem to lose/draw!

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Same here...

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Originally Posted by Scout Gorski

I manage four teams.

I have been focusing a lot of attention on two teams. I train players, buy players off the transfer market, attend games, pay a lot of attention on in-game strategy, etc. etc.

The other two teams I just make sure all players in the line up are healthy and eligible. I do not attend games, I do not change game strategy. I do not train, and so on...

The two teams I focus a lot of time on are both out of the Champions League and Cups. The teams I don't pay attention to are both in the Semis of both Champions and Cup.

So......how is that possible? When is Nordeus going to explain what factors affect game outcome?

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This supports everything I have been saying, that you dont really manage anything that matters. Also it just re-enforces what I have been saying that watching the games does NOT give you an advantage. the only advantage you get from watching the game is that you can remove a yellow carded player so they dont get a red, AND you get green booster.

I have almost stopped watching all my games and dont give bonuses and am winning all my games easily.

LOL, I would like to see Spyros explain this one! OOPS! I just read down the page and noticed he put in his opinion already, which actually makes sense! perhaps there is an ounce of rationality left in ole spyros.

I believe in bad rng. Stats are thrown constantly in a match bucket, being steered up and sometimes bad, unreasonable results come out.



PS: Rastaman I wont even bother to comment on what you wrote. You see you are the one who tries to prove conspiracy theories, not me. So reply all you like, since you love to get that last word.

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Originally Posted by Scout Gorski

I manage four teams.
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So......how is that possible? When is Nordeus going to explain what factors affect game outcome?

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you should reconsider your managing ability :-P

just joking... it's clear that this game is quite rugged. enjoy it in any case, or just quit

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Originally Posted by Spyros

I believe in bad rng. Stats are thrown constantly in a match bucket, being steered up and sometimes bad, unreasonable results come out.



PS: Rastaman I wont even bother to comment on what you wrote. You see you are the one who tries to prove conspiracy theories, not me. So reply all you like, since you love to get that last word.

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Not looking for your comment, as I just told you how it was.

you are correct in that stats are thrown in a bag and a hand basically comes in and grabs a result based on the numbers. it really cant be any other way based on how this game is structured.

the problem is that the more people who know this, it gets worse for Nordeus simply because it takes away the manager aspect from the football management game.

look, this is a football management game and it is masquerading as a serious football management game, but in reality is just mickey mouse.

I play this game to see what it takes to manipulate it properly, to see what drives this engine to give such inconsistent results.

You guys call it conspiracies, but really, I would put money on most of them being correct. why? because its too simple of a game. Its a simple game out to get money. as much money as it can. how else can I put this...

Its a carnival game posing as a football manager. we all know that carnival games are rigged. that is a fact.

I just cant believe people play this game and put serious money in it and they dont even get a prize to take home.

I Myself have 4 teams, so i have already seen a lot of things.

In my opinion what happens is that If you have a strong team fighting for top 4, you get trolled to keep the LEAGUE more competitive, If you are fighting for promotion you Will win against some of the stronguest teams and lose against some of the weaker ones.

If you start to stop watching games and training, the system recognise this as a possible situation of abandoned the game, so it gives you good results, for you do not quit.