Speechless..too much troll results n funny thing in here

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WHO SHOULD WE BELIEVE AND WHAT THERE TO BELIEVE WHEN YOU ARE IN THE SITUATION LIKE THAT??? NOT EVEN ONCE..BUT MANY MANY TIMES REPEATLY...

You are not alone. Last season:



This was 2 matches BEFORE i ended season, league ALL WINS, 2 DRAWS, havent lost a single match all season even in cup and CL PLUS I won a trebble! And how did I start a new season:


First match





Second match:



Not to mention I attend every single match, while my opponents are NOT, morale and condition SUPERB, look at my counter formations, and the result??!! WTF ??!!

[Brian Dang]

You are not alone. Last season:



This was 2 matches BEFORE i ended season, league ALL WINS, 2 DRAWS, havent lost a single match all season even in cup and CL PLUS I won a trebble! And how did I start a new season:


First match





Second match:



Not to mention I attend every single match, while my opponents are NOT, morale and condition SUPERB, look at my counter formations, and the result??!! WTF ??!!

So what should we do???Everybody raised their voices but even MOD Or SMOD also have no proper explanations OR MAYBE THEY DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT...

EVERYONE JUST ONLY FOCUS ON THE UNFAIR GAMES/CHEATING ENGINE THAT I POSTED BUT NOT REALLY LOOK AT THE WAY NORDEUS EVEN CONTROL BIDDING (MAY BE CAN SAY IS CHEATING TOKENS BY USING BLOCK MODE FROM MANAGER/PLAYERS) AS 1ST POINT IN MY 1ST POST...

NORDEUS ALSO TRY TO PLAY TRICK AND LEAD PEOPLE TO BUY THEIR TOKENS IN ORDER TO WIN THE HIGHER LEVEL...
U KNOW..A TEAM QUALITY GONE UP FROM 48 TO 51.6 WITHIN 1 NITE...IF IN NORMAL CONDITION..HOW MANY TOKENS U NEED TO ADD IN OR HOW MUCH MONEY U NEED TO SPEND???

LET'S DO A SIMPLE MATH, EVERY 40-80 TOKENS U CAN GO HIGHER QUALITY BY 1 POINT FOR 1 PLAYER...FOR EXAMPLE YOUR PLAYER AT QUALITY 49..IN ORDER TO UP TO QUALITY OF 50 U NEED 40-80 TOKENS..MEANT U NEED TO SPEND $11 FOR 1 QUALITY...THAT ONLY ADD IN 0.1 QUALITY OF YOUR OVERALL SQUAD QUALITY... SO IN ORDER TO UP FROM 48 TO 51.6 FOR OVERALL SQUAD MEANS 3.6 POINTS NEEDED..MEANS..U NEED: 40-80X36=1440-2880 TOKENS OR US$396-US$792 JUST FOR A GAME...DO U SEE ANY POINT HERE? DOES IT MAKE SENSE???? AND LOOK AT THE RESULT? IN THE REAL SITUATION, I STILL GET HIM AT HIS HOME (THE BOT ROBOT FROM NORDEUS THAY THEY PLANNED TO PLAY AROUND WITH YOU OR PERHAPS YOUR MONEY)...
OR WITHIN 1 NITE U CAN DO POWER TRAINING UP TO THAT LEVEL??? I BET U WILL INJURY THE WHOLE SQUAD FOR 10 YEARS...

[Sxrenity]

So what should we do???Everybody raised their voices but even MOD Or SMOD also have no proper explanations OR MAYBE THEY DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT

You're right, we can't give you a proper explanation because we don't work for Nordeus.

We are ordinary players just like you, and we get hit by the same problems and shock results as you. We just moderate the forums & have no input on how the game works, just to clear that up.

[Brian Dang]

WHAT I SUPPOSE TO DO.REAPEATLY...CONFIRMED IT IS PRESET GAME.PLS LOOK AT ALL THE SCRENSHOTS.QUALITY/PREVIOUS RECORD GAMES N PLAYERS GET INVOLVED.MY OPPONENT STRAIGHT LOST TO ALL THE GAME HE PLAYED B4.WITH ALL SO MUCH WEAKER OPPONENTS..THE DRAW THAT U SEE IN THE SCREENSHOT IS WITH ME RIGHT NOW...NOW I THINK REALLY WE CAN SEE NORDEUS'S REAL FACE .DO U THINK HE REALLY CAN SCORE 3 GOALS TO MY TEAM WITH THAT KIND OF SQUAD????..SPEECHLESSS..WHAT A JOKE...DO U THINK WE REALLY ARE THE ONES WHO CONTROL OR PLAY OUR GAME????????

[rastaman70]

WHAT I SUPPOSE TO DO.REAPEATLY...CONFIRMED IT IS PRESET GAME.PLS LOOK AT ALL THE SCRENSHOTS.QUALITY/PREVIOUS RECORD GAMES N PLAYERS GET INVOLVED.MY OPPONENT STRAIGHT LOST TO ALL THE GAME HE PLAYED B4.WITH ALL SO MUCH WEAKER OPPONENTS..THE DRAW THAT U SEE IN THE SCREENSHOT IS WITH ME RIGHT NOW...NOW I THINK REALLY WE CAN SEE NORDEUS'S REAL FACE .DO U THINK HE REALLY CAN SCORE 3 GOALS TO MY TEAM WITH THAT KIND OF SQUAD????..SPEECHLESSS..WHAT A JOKE...DO U THINK WE REALLY ARE THE ONES WHO CONTROL OR PLAY OUR GAME????????

Dude, chillax. The problem is that you are using logic to dictate what you think the results should be.

When you realize that there is little to no logic in many of the results that one would deem unlikely, you will be a bit less frustrated. You have to accept the fact that you will eventually get trolled. a formation might give you a 7-1 win vs an opponent, yet you could lose the next one vs the same opponent or one of lesser quality, even though you did everything the same.

do you know why? because there is no consistency in the programming, and that is because you have rank amateurs programming the game. They have hired people just out for the buck, willing to give you a run-of-the-mill flash football fantasy game that they pretend is a football manager game.

At first I blamed management for fooling the masses, but now I blame the stupid idiots who buy tokens for not demanding more for their money. Do you know how many returns they would have if this game were an actual physical product? let me tell you, they would have gone out of business because the results are not as expected. This is a game where money SHOULD buy success, and they fool you into believing it, but then you get the results and utter disappointment. typical nordeus.

[Brian Dang]

Dude, chillax. The problem is that you are using logic to dictate what you think the results should be.

When you realize that there is little to no logic in many of the results that one would deem unlikely, you will be a bit less frustrated. You have to accept the fact that you will eventually get trolled. a formation might give you a 7-1 win vs an opponent, yet you could lose the next one vs the same opponent or one of lesser quality, even though you did everything the same.

do you know why? because there is no consistency in the programming, and that is because you have rank amateurs programming the game. They have hired people just out for the buck, willing to give you a run-of-the-mill flash football fantasy game that they pretend is a football manager game.

At first I blamed management for fooling the masses, but now I blame the stupid idiots who buy tokens for not demanding more for their money. Do you know how many returns they would have if this game were an actual physical product? let me tell you, they would have gone out of business because the results are not as expected. This is a game where money SHOULD buy success, and they fool you into believing it, but then you get the results and utter disappointment. typical nordeus.

If your thinking is right then I don't really know what actually this forum for, to be honest? If everything is SET with the crazy programming then all formations, tactics, attending matches or what we do all are useless...and in that case.. why there are still have many Players/Users here?
Also, the Mods and SMODs in this forum I do not know what actually they can do.. if just to manage a forum, cleaning the rubbish posts/threads then they just need a high school drop out with little bit computer knowledge..it will do...They are should be the one help us to complaint or at least propose to the admins so they can improve...
Infact, all their answers are very general that we all could know them too, if they could not answer then they just simply say it is Nordeus problems and "you should complaint directly"..
I think It is really wrong doings of the whole Nordeus association...
Noone could help us? we complaint really for nothing.. I even see many experienced managers decided to leave the game becoz their disappointments as you all can see too...
Really Upset...

[rastaman70]

If your thinking is right then I don't really know what actually this forum for, to be honest? If everything is SET with the crazy programming then all formations, tactics, attending matches or what we do all are useless...and in that case.. why there are still have many Players/Users here?
Also, the Mods and SMODs in this forum I do not know what actually they can do.. if just to manage a forum, cleaning the rubbish posts/threads then they just need a high school drop out with little bit computer knowledge..it will do...They are should be the one help us to complaint or at least propose to the admins so they can improve...
Infact, all their answers are very general that we all could know them too, if they could not answer then they just simply say it is Nordeus problems and "you should complaint directly"..
I think It is really wrong doings of the whole Nordeus association...
Noone could help us? we complaint really for nothing.. I even see many experienced managers decided to leave the game becoz their disappointments as you all can see too...
Really Upset...

Why couldnt I be right?

Think about it. They dont make any significant changes to the game that benefit the "customer" except the most recent change to the "friendly". That is it in over 2 years. now they change the market that puts everyone at a disadvantage as there are not as many good players available and one will be forced to either buy tokens for scouts or simply do without. and with the pressure to win, most people will put out the $10 and buy some tokens, because everyone is afraid to lose.

end of the day: this game is about money for nordeus. it is free to everyone and they pressure you, quite heavily, to buy tokens. If anyone thinks for one moment that nordeus does anything out of the kindness of their hearts, then you are seriously deluded. and you might mention the jersey offer or compeititions they hold weekly, but thats just like winning money and the more tokens you get the more you spend, so its all about greed and their efforts to make you as greedy as possible.

ok, so the formations/tactics/quality/morale/condition are all practically useless or ineffective at best. Thats hardly fair of me to say that being a realist, knowing that the outcome of each game is decided by the number-crunching matrix, but it is what it is...a poor mans Football Manager game.

Look at Candy Crush Saga, they do the exact same thing, and the kicker is the time limit they put so they put pressure on you to buy ingame money-equivalents so you can continue the game without losing your progress...T11 does that with the auctions.

this is a money making flash application made to look like a football manager game. you get what you pay for. or dont pay for. whatever.

all that to say, you finally have your eyes open. now that you do, start digging around and read more about the game and help others to open their eyes.

its a good game to waste time, not money, because once you start, they have you hooked, like cigarettes.

[Qambu Yaasi]

Dont believe that in this game MONEY should buy you success but it should help you remain competitive. If MONEY guaranteed success, non-token buyers like me would be at the losing end.

We always look at the Token buyer's perspective but let's look at the other side. Getting trolled is probably (Im just guessing) a way to even out the competition and not let weaker teams get disinterested. It annoys token buyers if it happens too often. In 8 seasons I have yet to get matched up in the league with token buyers and have so far held my own.

I farm tokens and I have a decent strong squad. I get trolled maybe once or twice a season, zero last season and still waiting to get trolled this season.

I can understand frustrations of token buyers when they frequently get trolled but maybe we all just need to lower our expectations and just enjoy the game. Spend $10 on tokens a month and expect to challenge for titles, not to win.

P/S I never believed that this game is not flawed, it is, but I don't expect much.

[Brian Dang]

TROLL AT HIGHEST LEVEL..Today 3rd day and the result still the same..head-to-head 4-4-2 c with a team quality of 45..normally with that gap..i cen win atleast 4-5 goals even..if u want me to post all the result last season..i can show u...no any 4-4-2c team last season score more than 1 goal to my team n sure got hit at least 4-8goals from my team..but now what..repeatly day to day..same problem occurred..lost 2-0..what more to say..i have no injury..all excellent condition..my 1st choice team is not at quality of 50..it is quality of 52 even...still lost...the other team got draw as i posted above with the quality of 30 vs 47..he even can score 3 goals...dont know what to say...

[Mo Meow Odom]

TROLL AT HIGHEST LEVEL..Today 3rd day and the result still the same..head-to-head 4-4-2 c with a team quality of 45..normally with that gap..i cen win atleast 4-5 goals even..if u want me to post all the result last season..i can show u...no any 4-4-2c team last season score more than 1 goal to my team n sure got hit at least 4-8goals from my team..but now what..repeatly day to day..same problem occurred..lost 2-0..what more to say..i have no injury..all excellent condition..my 1st choice team is not at quality of 50..it is quality of 52 even...still lost...the other team got draw as i posted above with the quality of 30 vs 47..he even can score 3 goals...dont know what to say...

You played the same formation as the other team ??? 4-4-2 Isnt it easy to blame the troll for bad results ( Yes the odd bad result hits us all ) but really you thought about the game and came up with lets play the same formation as them ??

wonder what other decisions you came up with ? sorry but not getting at you but you seem to blame everything else but yourself, I have lost the 1st four games in a league before but still managed to win the league dont give up so early hun !!!!!