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2 suspensions (1 red and 1 double yellow; not acceptable given that my team's record was very low in terms of cards in the 2 previous seasons)
3 injured players whose conditions were in dark green before the match (no power training done on them; not acceptable)
1 injured player whose condition was about 60% (acceptable)
2 injuries in training (acceptable because it was power training)

By the way, the ACL injury occurred after shirt pulling. This is nonsense.

My players all scored 7-8-9's. His team 6-7-8's. I had one 6 too. On average there was not much difference (like 0,2 or something). My formation is also a bit of fantasy with 3DC-2MC-MR-AML-2ST but nowhere near his formation. He was hard to beat indeed.

Maybe I should start a troll team too. Only 3 star players that are fast trainers and a fantasy formation.

Another downer today. Bought a fast trainer for GK. Trained one on one stopper. First match and he scores a 5. OMG! Should have tried him first. Lets hope his second match is better. My 29 year old good GK with 9 quality less needs a replacement.

fast train youth are not always great out of the gate, if I want that I look for a 22y.o. trained the way I would have.. barring that an old guy with a string of good ratings or stats. on my no money team I lose great players cos they retire! :) there are many successful ways to manage your team and resources, if an okd guy is great... keep.him until he isnt, dont sell or sack because they are oldsters, they might yet have value.

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Originally Posted by Cat Harrison

fast train youth are not always great out of the gate, if I want that I look for a 22y.o. trained the way I would have.. barring that an old guy with a string of good ratings or stats. on my no money team I lose great players cos they retire! :) there are many successful ways to manage your team and resources, if an okd guy is great... keep.him until he isnt, dont sell or sack because they are oldsters, they might yet have value.

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I agree with you. Some players are just so good - I think the game made them so, they score goals even when their quality and morale is low. When you find them keep them.
However, there are those that are just for show. They always beat the defense and their balls keep whistling past the post. Those ones belong to the bench and if they are in 9 or 4, I keep them for the next shark market season.

That is why I said I should have tried him first. To see if he would function at all. I was to eager right now to replace my GK as I lost 3 bidding wars already for a good GK. Now I finally win one, he might be a dud. Lets keep our fingers crossed that he improves. Otherwise my old GK will be back in business.

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Originally Posted by Killroy

My players all scored 7-8-9's. His team 6-7-8's. I had one 6 too. On average there was not much difference (like 0,2 or something). My formation is also a bit of fantasy with 3DC-2MC-MR-AML-2ST but nowhere near his formation. He was hard to beat indeed.

Maybe I should start a troll team too. Only 3 star players that are fast trainers and a fantasy formation.

Another downer today. Bought a fast trainer for GK. Trained one on one stopper. First match and he scores a 5. OMG! Should have tried him first. Lets hope his second match is better. My 29 year old good GK with 9 quality less needs a replacement.

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Yeah, try first. Performance is performance and training is training. Ofc adding sp or SA makes a player better (where appropriate) but first you need to establish the base to which this better applies. ;)

Phew second game with the new GK was a cup game, which we won with 2-1. My new goalkeeper scored a 7. Maybe he is a keeper :p and he will start to improve. His first match he simply was nervous (I hope, crosses fingers). I should complain more about the cup though. First match was against a level higher but he had abandoned his team. Still his team with 3 goal keepers and one player less due to a red card kept me at 1-0 for 70 minutes (lol). Second round was against an equally matched team. Won both games so for the first time in 5 seasons I am back in the playoffs where I face a team that is 2 levels higher then me with a lot of 6 and 7 star players. Wish me luck.

Cup Qualifying Round...

Team has rating lower then me... and had 2 players sent off by half time... 4-3-3 against my 4-4-2... full pitch pressing, with offside trap... manager not watching except me.... 1st leg 3-3... 2nd leg away.... was leading all the way till near the end of the game when it equalise. How does that even happen??? in the process, the game decided to injure my top striker of the game... and gets me eliminated from the Cup!!!!

and i have 2 more games today.. Why Nordeus why?!!!

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Originally Posted by Killroy

That is why I said I should have tried him first. To see if he would function at all. I was to eager right now to replace my GK as I lost 3 bidding wars already for a good GK. Now I finally win one, he might be a dud. Lets keep our fingers crossed that he improves. Otherwise my old GK will be back in business.

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Be paaaaaatient.
When I bid a new player, always starts his first match with the subs, step by step.

How the hell I lose this match????Guys,DO NOT waist your money for this s**t!!

Poor mate got trolled...

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Two more injuries today, one for each account. It seems that the best players or the most needed players get injured. Why don't the people at Nordeus fix this excessive injuries issue?

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I can partly understand the best/most valuable player aspect as it is they who will be the better players and will be targetted more by the opposition, but I have found injuries tend to come in batches - after a 6 injuries in 6 matches burst at the start of the season, my Palace Terriers team hasn't got another one since... <touches wood>

Yesterday FC Killroy faced his second troll result. It was maybe the worst troll result in the whole history of Killroys management career. FC Killroy had an away match for the champions league. The quality difference was enormous with more then 10 points in total (17 vs 27,8). Killroy looked at the team and thought, this looks good but never underestimate a lower quality team.

Match starts and instant yelllow card for the MC for me. Ok it happens. 33rd minute his defender gets a yellow card and 5 minutes later another one and he is send of. This is looking promising. Missed a couple of big chances but no worries. What can go wrong with 11 against 10 with 10 more quality? Well aparantly nothing, but nothing did go right either. It stayed 0-0. More then double the shots and shots on target. Only 1 save from his goalie but somehow no score. His team was 5-6-7-8. My team was 7-8-9. After such a game I start to doubt this game again.

Next day the game against the bottom feeder. A whooping 14 quality against my 28 quality. Somehow this score even with a monstruous amount of shots and shots on target it only became 1-3. Yes, his one shot was a goal. Sigh. Either my people are performing like sh.t (but with scores of 7-8-9 again that is not the case) or this team is the most unluckiest team in this level.

Injury storm is also back again. Again 2 players injured on FC Killroy who is now out of red packs. Both injuries for 6 days on key players. FC Knudde also faced another injury. 3 injuries in 3 games is just blerghhh.

Had Enough of how individuals are allowed to screw the league up

Bottom Team first 5 games manager has not set up any team. Computer takes over and attempts to play some sort of team in correct positions giving the team a couple of troll results for 1W 1D 3L, loss against me was a close 2-1. Manager now logs on sees his team is doing to well so sets up a formation where a defeat is a certainty by not picking a GK. Computer puts a DC into the GK position result 10-0 loss, So now everyone who plays that team suddenly gets big boost on the GD and the team with less chance of a troll.

Why doesn't the BOT just overide these formations to stop this from happening especially with the season underway.

FC Knudde faced his worst defeat so far. It was a 0-3 loss for my team. I didn't mind the loss but the enemy was just a lot stronger somehow. He almost played the same tactic as I did but he got 23 shots with 10 on target and me only 9 shots with 2 on target. Quality was almost the same (2 points higher for me) but the form was decisive. My team 5-6-7-8 and his team 7-8-9. The win bonus did not work this time. The only positive point was that my new goalie which I was doubting about made 5 saves and scored an 8 this game. And of course we had another injury. ZZZZZ.

I want to ask developers TOP 11 - How long will you @#$! with my team? Until when teams where their managers are not interested in them and abandoned them will win us where we go every day and spend tokens to players, nerves and time? How long will you tolerate these teams?How long you will make numbers? Or do you want us opt not to play. Unable team that has 13 players left in the lurch at least 2 seasons ago and 5 stars weaker than us to beat us. Shame on you already, developers TOP 11. Or if you do not stay @#!

your team is crap probably

In last 2 days, this player got 3 injuries during all matches he played. He's one of the newest player of the team. Probably he's injury prone.

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In past week, my team got 9 injuries with total 33 days available, alongside with 3 suspension.

Guess it is my turn as in last 3 days 3 of my 4 strikers have been I jured and I will not. Heal them so there ������

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Originally Posted by cookizzz

I don't have any calendar day with 3 matches. But this is still the worst schedule I have ever obtained. In season days with 2 matches, time between all matches are not more than 5 hours. My players will only recover 5% between 2 matches, probably in all these days.
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Since season day 3, every day my level 25 team needs to play 2 matches and my players only rest for once and recover 5% condition in between these matches.

After having lives like this for 8 days (or 9 days including today), my players will finally be allowed to rest for twice between 2 matches tomorrow! This is kindest schedule for my players in this season. I should have no complaint that the rest time coincides with the first match tomorrow.... Wait.. my players can even rest for trice between the match!

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As manager, I don't directly feel how tired the players are, but I know how fast the red and green packs drained in these days.

How the hell have ii lost to this
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Originally Posted by cookizzz

In last 2 days, this player got 3 injuries during all matches he played. He's one of the newest player of the team. Probably he's injury prone.

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In past week, my team got 9 injuries with total 33 days available, alongside with 3 suspension.

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Maybe he is injury prone or he has a bad hidden profile, but when you have a lot of injuries for players that has been in your team for 1-2 seasons, and you know that they are not like this, then there is surely a problem. It may be intentionally caused or it may be due to bad programming,a bug or something that the programming people at Nordeus missed, but it is surely not normal to have so many injuries.

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Originally Posted by Tactician

Maybe he is injury prone or he has a bad hidden profile, but when you have a lot of injuries for players that has been in your team for 1-2 seasons, and you know that they are not like this, then there is surely a problem. It may be intentionally caused or it may be due to bad programming,a bug or something that the programming people at Nordeus missed, but it is surely not normal to have so many injuries.

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I will monitor if the player I mentioned is injury prone. Replacing him may be necessary. But he's a winger, a position that my strategies always need and is very difficult to find in my market.

I understand why there is such conspiracy theory. We cannot prove if it is right.

In my experience, injuries usually come as a storm and then disappear for a while. I also wonder if nordeus intentional increase injury frequency of a team during a period. This is possible, I really think so, because uneven injury pattern can stimulate use of red packs. But I don't think they review individual teams' status and then increase injury frequency on selected targets. It is not impossible, but I still don't believe.

Both my teams also have some injury problems in this season. But I don't feel too painful about this, because these teams have sufficient depth and accumulate some red treatment packs to cater injury storm.

My L17 team has quite serious injury problem that there are total 9 injuries and 3 suspensions in last 7 days. However, as it does not participate CL, some players can rest on alternate days or have time to recover from injuries. So I can comfortably let most of them recovering naturally, and don't feel pressure to buy red packs. If they targeted this team to give injuries in order to simulate sale, their efforts failed.

My L25 team is better off in injury problem. There are only 5 injuries in last 7 days. This team is still participating all 3 competitions and players are just allowed to rest to recover 5% conditions during 2 matches on each day. Any injury will disrupt my player rotation. This team should be a more suitable target if injuries are intentionally caused. But this hasn't happened.

I hope you understand I am not objecting lowering injury frequency. But I think that current injury frequency is not a problem impossible to managed by 35T non-farmer manager. I even think uneven injury frequency makes the game more interesting. But I think Nordeus tries to know if managers satisfies while earning profit from them. We should let them know so that they can response.

So I support you voicing out your displeasure about injury problem. I will also update my injury status in vent thread when I think injury problem is serious.

Enjoy and wish you good luck.

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Originally Posted by cookizzz

I will monitor if the player I mentioned is injury prone. Replacing him may be necessary. But he's a winger, a position that my strategies always need and is very difficult to find in my market.

I understand why there is such conspiracy theory. We cannot prove if it is right.

In my experience, injuries usually come as a storm and then disappear for a while. I also wonder if nordeus intentional increase injury frequency of a team during a period. This is possible, I really think so, because uneven injury pattern can stimulate use of red packs. But I don't think they review individual teams' status and then increase injury frequency on selected targets. It is not impossible, but I still don't believe.

Both my teams also have some injury problems in this season. But I don't feel too painful about this, because these teams have sufficient depth and accumulate some red treatment packs to cater injury storm.

My L17 team has quite serious injury problem that there are total 9 injuries and 3 suspensions in last 7 days. However, as it does not participate CL, some players can rest on alternate days or have time to recover from injuries. So I can comfortably let most of them recovering naturally, and don't feel pressure to buy red packs. If they targeted this team to give injuries in order to simulate sale, their efforts failed.

My L25 team is better off in injury problem. There are only 5 injuries in last 7 days. This team is still participating all 3 competitions and players are just allowed to rest to recover 5% conditions during 2 matches on each day. Any injury will disrupt my player rotation. This team should be a more suitable target if injuries are intentionally caused. But this hasn't happened.

I hope you understand I am not objecting lowering injury frequency. But I think that current injury frequency is not a problem impossible to managed by 35T non-farmer manager. I even think uneven injury frequency makes the game more interesting. But I think Nordeus tries to know if managers satisfies while earning profit from them. We should let them know so that they can response.

So I support you voicing out your displeasure about injury problem. I will also update my injury status in vent thread when I think injury problem is serious.

Enjoy and wish you good luck.

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I suspect it is more of a bug or bad programming or something they have missed rather than being intentional because it is so unrealistic; but there is a possibility of it being intentional too, that is, they have programmed it so that it occurs like this.

You are in higher levels; so, you are generating more red packs than teams on the lowers levels, and thus, you may be less affected by this issue. Take into consideration that most of these injuries are those of 4-7 days (not those that can be fixed with 5 red packs). In the lower levels, it is very difficult to play using appropriate formations when you have so many injuries, despite having 20-22 players in your squad. The only way out without buying a lot of red packs is to sell the players as soon as they get injured and buy replacements, something that can't be done if you have put in a lot of effort to get the player or spent a lot of tokens to get him (and more inappropriate if you have trained this player for additional stars, special ability or extra position). It is also not easy to get a proper replacement [having same quality, position(s) and special ability] so quickly.

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a WHAT? :D

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no comment... of course he didn't attend his game... after 6.5 seasons i'm still naive and surprising when troll end result(s) hits me... silly me:rolleyes:

ohh and Jankovic got a red card... what if he didn't get it? Until red card he led by 1 :D

Tactician: only in 3rd minute??? :rolleyes: still far away from my record :D (beat it! got in 1st minute :rolleyes: yes-yes same bullsh0t with 99% condition :rolleyes:)

I just wanna file a complaint here.
I just played again someone who has 7 points less then my team. That is in each and every player.
We're playing in the same formation
I was playing at home with 15% extra ball possesion and still im getting my ass kicked with 1-4

I've had multiple matches right that.

Do you make me loose because im not spending real money on it or anything?
Or can they at least lower the luck factor. This is just freaking ridiculous

Maybe a troll game its happen :)

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Do you make me loose because im not spending real money on it or anything?

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Don't take it personal, this is also happening to token buyers too
and in that case it's more annoying :p

Top Eleven-Troll-Game ( roll dice game)

was it a CL cup or league match? CL and CUP even low rated teams perform better then if you played them in league. If you are home in CL and CUP you should be more defensive minded.

Another big result

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With a better team ( yes because almost all my players are raising to the next star) i lost 2-4 in a home game..with more 15% ball percentage and with 5 midfielders ..


THIS IS MY 11 STARTING PLAYERS:

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With this team, im in 4th in the league, and this season i conceded 27 goals in 22 games !!!! With normal team mentality..all players with morale suberb and very good condition..

My question is, what the point of playing this? I assist all my games to do a regular season?? And so many teams without present manager doing great results..
Congratulations NORDEUS to made a game so WEIRD..

This is the end of the line for me..And i advice the players who are playing to leave the game..or at least not spending money in a game of this quality..

Cesar! that's nothing! beat this!

screenshot taken from my mate (5th level) account

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Maximus Trollus (sounds like a Harry Potter spell :)). This might be one of the worst troll results I have seen so far. Especially with the better form (7,4 vs 7,2) Lol. Beko has a right to vent now!

@ Gabez

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Cesar! that's nothing! beat this!
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but now with the new decimal rating system you can explain it better
lol

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Why does it take so long for the substitutions for injured players to take place, when you are present at the match? It only takes a minute or two if you aren't there! In the NINE minutes I waited for the substitution to take place, the MC that the injured one was supposed to mark waltzed thru the defence and scored...

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Does anyone else give a damn about the Champions League??? Talk about a bunch of BS. I got thrown into a Division with a 4 star rated team and two 3 star teams and I AM ONLY A 1 STAR TEAM. GOD I HATE top 11 for that. OK done ranting.