Stop moaning about troll results!!

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Originally Posted by Skidz

make a mental note in you head of what you did and try something different next time untill you get it right!.

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the point is skidz, due to the way this game works, firstly we may not be online to change the way events are happening, some of us have jobs. secondly, just because our teams lose doesnt mean we got anything wrong in the first place, the computer just decides we wont be winning today, so why change things around next time hoping for a better result, you could just as well get a worse result.

thinking you get it right because you win and wrong because you lose is not totally logical. i got a stupid result in the cup today, so some may say my opponent got his tactics right and i didnt. i'd say boll**** to that. if i play the same team tomorrow under same conditions, i could and should win if i was as dominant, and no reason why i shouldnt be, so then you'd say i got my tactics right, but they were the same tactics as when i lost 3-0. so what have tactics really got to do with it in this game, very little.

you can tell a lot of people do not even try or think of tactics but it doesnt mean their tanking team cant beat you with a daft result, so how is that their tactical genius? lol. losing doesnt mean you got anything wrong or that you need to change something next time, it just means you are meant to lose for whatever reason. sometimes i think i lose because i didnt name my team real madrid like 500,000 other people did or because my team shirt is the wrong colour. i think that has more bearing in this game than tactics do

So that means you start over again?

[QUOTE=Med78;245551]When some1 loses5-0 to a bot team or something ridiculous like that and come to complain here i like to make fun of them and have a good laugh :) what else r u gonna do? I never lost in such a way, sometimes I lost against weaker teams, but many times i defeat stronger teams too..
Whining is never an option, unless u wanna get laughted at hahaha[/QUOTE
Lmfao!, I will never believe the computer predicts the out come ofthe game before it starts!, 2nd you say all say Is a weaker team, how do you know that?, that tea could be a full team of hot prospects that are all good, thry may only be 3or4 * but very good!, so when you play a team like that the quality stats are false so Iif you lose its a troll result when actually it is not .3rd if you not at the match because of real life matters thats unfortunate and you have to except whatever the outcome as you are unable to change things!, even If its a bot team!, Iif you dont like the way the game plays then dont waist your time playing it because your moaning will not get the game changed

I am looking forward to that Maxtax.
Ofc I want my team to be good, so i fixed a 22 man squad with 5* (lvl 2) and all are aged btw 18-22.
I also understand that I slaugther every opponent since the best team in my league doesn't even have 50% of my quality.
But I hope and believe that it will be more difficult higher up i get in level.

And i am not a person who buy a complete new squad... i will work with this team for a long time - thats why i only bought good young talented players.

I have played football manager for ages, so its a passion of mine.

Tokens was just to fix myself a good start.

-nice day :)

I think the problem on here seems to stem from 2 or 3 posters who think they are bigger than the game who are continually knocking it and saying how bad it is. It is at odds to their massive post counts, or the fact that they decide to run several teams at once, as well as having spent real money on it. Even though they tell everyone how rubbish this game is they can't stop playing it.

I've found that outside of this forum people's opinions on this game are generally quite positive. On this forum its the opposite. However, take away all the newbie questions (where did my stars go, whats an illegal formation etc...) and the problems and complaints that arise from that and you will see its always the same two or three that are moaning - the self styled "forum and game kings".

@Nyfutty.

I don't believe that the game is already decided before it starts.
Ofc it's not even close as advanced as for example football manager is, and one team in my league has 3 players (no goalie) and have still scored 4 goals :) So ofc it's abit weird. But the result has nothing to do with the "name of your team" or "the color of your jersey"
It's about tactic, annalyze your opponent, annalyze your team, prospects etc etc etc.

That's why this game is so fun. It is not advanced, but still not random either.
Personally i haven't lost yet, and no real troll result wins either. It usually is btw 3-0 and 6-0. But then i understand that my team is alot better than my opponents aswell. And trust me - many opponents are named "bayern München or Real Madrid".

I am still new to this game since i jumped in with 50% left of the 1st season.
But so far, so good.

It's a fun game - and it's not about life & death. It's all about chill & fun.

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Originally Posted by Med78

When some1 loses5-0 to a bot team or something ridiculous like that and come to complain here i like to make fun of them and have a good laugh :) what else r u gonna do? I never lost in such a way, sometimes I lost against weaker teams, but many times i defeat stronger teams too..
Whining is never an option, unless u wanna get laughted at hahaha

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Originally Posted by kynan

I think the problem on here seems to stem from 2 or 3 posters who think they are bigger than the game who are continually knocking it and saying how bad it is. It is at odds to their massive post counts, or the fact that they decide to run several teams at once, as well as having spent real money on it. Even though they tell everyone how rubbish this game is they can't stop playing it.

I've found that outside of this forum people's opinions on this game are generally quite positive. On this forum its the opposite. However, take away all the newbie questions (where did my stars go, whats an illegal formation etc...) and the problems and complaints that arise from that and you will see its always the same two or three that are moaning - the self styled "forum and game kings".

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Originally Posted by Tommy Vernersson

@Nyfutty.

I don't believe that the game is already decided before it starts.
Ofc it's not even close as advanced as for example football manager is, and one team in my league has 3 players (no goalie) and have still scored 4 goals :) So ofc it's abit weird. But the result has nothing to do with the "name of your team" or "the color of your jersey"
It's about tactic, annalyze your opponent, annalyze your team, prospects etc etc etc.

That's why this game is so fun. It is not advanced, but still not random either.
Personally i haven't lost yet, and no real troll result wins either. It usually is btw 3-0 and 6-0. But then i understand that my team is alot better than my opponents aswell. And trust me - many opponents are named "bayern München or Real Madrid".

I am still new to this game since i jumped in with 50% left of the 1st season.
But so far, so good.

It's a fun game - and it's not about life & death. It's all about chill & fun.

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Finaly someone has something poitve to say about the game!, well said bud, yoy have the same idea as myself!, Kris you also are spot on, the same old people moaning about this and that yet they still keep coming back! !.

Dam Troll result NEVER worked for me :( i had West Ham to win 1-0 at Man City with Andy Carroll to score at 250 to 1, DAM you Nordeus :)

Yeah the results are decided before the game starts based on the prevailing circumstances...And then again a re-simulation is done based on the current circumstance when the game stops for break that is at the 45 minute...

I have been done enough experiment before arriving to this conclusion...

You guys should also try the experiments...

Experiment 1) Set your squad to an illegal formation and then arrange a friendly match and then at the break use a legal formation...

Experiment 2) Set your squad to an illegal formation and then arrange a friendly match. As the match starts us a legal formation and then at the break again us an illegal formation...

Experiment 3) Set your squad to an legal formation and then arrange a friendly match. As the match starts us a illegal formation and then at the break again us an illegal formation...

Do these things and observer the results carefully...

I am pretty sure the results are pre -determined...But there are check points where the game is re - simulated again...Currently I don't know the number of Check Points when the game is re - simulated but seeing the number of trolls its not more than 2 ( at the start and at the end )...

If there were 4,5 instances when the game was re -simulated the number of troll would not have been so high...These game just works like a dice in which the results is based on the circumstances...

Lets consider there is A team with 30 quality vs a team with 70 quality...Now considering a fair dice the team having 70 quality should win 7 out of 10 times....

But if the dice is being thrown only 2 times the chances are high that the team having 30 quality could also win but if the dice is being thrown 5,6 times then the team having 70 quality will come out as the winner maximum number of times...If we further increase the number of throw of dice then perhaps the team with 30 quality will never win...:)...

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Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker Singh

Yeah the results are decided before the game starts based on the prevailing circumstances...And then again a re-simulation is done based on the current circumstance when the game stops for break that is at the 45 minute...

I have been done enough experiment before arriving to this conclusion...

You guys should also try the experiments...

Experiment 1) Set your squad to an illegal formation and then arrange a friendly match and then at the break use a legal formation...

Experiment 2) Set your squad to an illegal formation and then arrange a friendly match. As the match starts us a legal formation and then at the break again us an illegal formation...

Experiment 3) Set your squad to an legal formation and then arrange a friendly match. As the match starts us a illegal formation and then at the break again us an illegal formation...

Do these things and observer the results carefully...

I am pretty sure the results are pre -determined...But there are check points where the game is re - simulated again...Currently I don't know the number of Check Points when the game is re - simulated but seeing the number of trolls its not more than 2 ( at the start and at the end )...

If there were 4,5 instances when the game was re -simulated the number of troll would not have been so high...These game just works like a dice in which the results is based on the circumstances...

Lets consider there is A team with 30 quality vs a team with 70 quality...Now considering a fair dice the team having 70 quality should win 7 out of 10 times....

But if the dice is being thrown only 2 times the chances are high that the team having 30 quality could also win but if the dice is being thrown 5,6 times then the team having 70 quality will come out as the winner maximum number of times...If we further increase the number of throw of dice then perhaps the team with 30 quality will never win...:)...

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I'm with you. I think the results are pre-determined. Those 3 minutes before the match starts and half-time break are 2 check points. There are other 1 or 2 other check points, each in the middle of the 1st half and 2nd half, where the time just suddenly stops for like 10-20 seconds. (sometime this check point only occur 1 time either in the 1st half or the 2nd half).

Another evidence I found is that when I lost wifi connection and reconnected after 1.5 mins (I was not kicked out of the game), the game continued at the minute when the match is stopped due to lost wifi signal, and continued even though the game already finished in real time. My conclusion, the game is not real time-based, so the result is predetermined at least at each check point.

So yeah, if you change players at the 80th minute, and you're losing and you turn the match around, it looks like your decision affects the game result, but it actually does not.